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Percussion Problems- what are you using?

I've been spending a lot of time working on percussive elements that for the most part have been genuinely frustrating me.
In the first 16 bars you may have your kick, snare, hats, bass; and then where I'm struggling, is with the other syncopated percussive elements. I've been using a lot of different 909 samples; toms, kicks, snares and working with multi-band distortion, EQ, compression to give them a distinct character, but I'm just not getting anything out of it that I'm enjoying.

What are you cats using?

I use battery 4 synthetic drums (1+2) as my percussion. Just where are you having problems? Do you need help creating patterns?

I'm definitely good on patterns, I'm just wondering what people are using for their sounds.

Yeah, i'm good too. I'm also interested to see what everyone else is using.

I mainly just use Battery 4 and a bunch of sample libraries. Sometimes I use samples from a ROMpler too, like an ASR10 or something.

I don't use drum machine (909 etc) samples, because they are basic and sound like crap unless you spend all day layering them. By the time you have done that though, you could have finished a whole track if you just used good samples in the first place.

Not sure I really understand the question. For dance/electronics stuff, I mostly use Maschine or Battery 4+Sonar's step sequencer and either their factory libraries or third party libraries (usually Wave Alchemy). Sometimes I just arrange drum samples on audio tracks, but I generally prefer something like Maschine or Battery for re-pitching or mangling samples, better groove control, etc. For additional parts, I sometimes layer in synth drums from Tremor, Drumazon, Stylus RMX, etc.

Yeah, i too had difficulty understanding the question.

if question is about the sounds, I use a lot sample libraries (using Battery 4) from companies like Loopmasters, Uberschall, and the new freshly squeezed samples (for trance they have some signature series from Activa and The thrillseekers) and sometimes I prefer to use loops specially when nothing comes to my mind and don't want to waste time.

Sometimes those loops are processed in ReCyle so I can mute some parts or change the pattern.

All of the above processed with compression EQ Distortion flanger anything that I think is good for the track

if your asking what sounds for percussion??
i use Battery 4 built-in sounds, with Battery 2&3 sounds + Synthetic Drums 1+2
Wave Alchemy various packs
Live 9 suite
Couple of Sample Magic packs

Battery 3 here.

I remember trying Battery 4, but got pissed off pretty quickly of how laggy and slow it was.

Rmx is the way for me. Just love that thing.

it all depends on what mood im in and what im making at the time i use fruitys built in drum tools with some decent samples. or i use fruitys slicex with loops because you can pick and choose what part of the loop i need ect.

i say there is no limit to how much percussion you use in a track but remember the more you use the lees space you have for other things.

This is actually something I'm pondering right now; I've been on battery 3 which was my go to for many years but now I've done a format to mavericks, I'm starting from fresh.

I'm thinking Battery 4 but don't really know what else is out there?

I just want something that holds samples as cells so I can trigger it from my keyboard or electribe.

Any suggestions?

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Originally posted by DJ RANN I'm thinking Battery 4 but don't really know what else is out there?

Battery 4 is a huge upgrade. There are some workflow changes that will seriously piss you off for a while, such as the sample browser no longer having folders/files split into two panes or empty cells no longer being highlighted when you play a note. However, the new effects system is amazing. I basically do everything within Battery now.

I don't think there are any good alternatives to Battery. You could try Geist, but meh.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN I'm thinking Battery 4 but don't really know what else is out there? I just want something that holds samples as cells so I can trigger it from my keyboard or electribe. Any suggestions?

Battery 4, Geist, Xfer Nerve, Linplug RMV, MOTU BPM (ick), or Maschine if you also want a controller.

Personally, I'd go with Battery 4 or Nerve if I was you.

cryo put me onto Nerve a while back and it's pretty much all I use for drums. I use its on board samples and import a few from Wave Alchemy and a couple other packs.

Only annoying things is it's an 8 step sequencer by default and I've never found a way of expanding this so I end up making several different sets of beats (say 1 thu 8) and then having to join them all with automation.

All in all my best ever purchase.

Simpler

I'm also still on Battery 3, but I've had some bugs give me grief on occasions, though since I did the last update some time back it seems to be more stable.
I also use a few drum synths, record and make a lot of my own samples as I really enjoy being at the creative crux of my work most of the time. I also have a few custom kits created by sound designers I respect and also a few Kontakt and Wave Alchemy libraries.

If Live's drum racks could be used inside other hosts I'd probably stick with that as I like the simplicity and some of the features, notably the way you can insert a sampler loaded with different sounds on each cell. Then map the selection parameter inside the sampler to a macro so you can change the sample in real time with a knob. It's pretty neat but requires a bit of RAM if you put in a shit load of samples.

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