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Sammy - Boys Of Summer (melody)

DJ Sammy - Boys Of Summer from axel on Vimeo.

I have no clue about the emotional vs harmonic content. I just wanted to point out this track has the opposite effect on me. Makes me happy .

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Originally posted by Storyteller I have no clue about the emotional vs harmonic content. I just wanted to point out this track has the opposite effect on me. Makes me happy .

Well, at this point is clear the track transmits a dual feeling.

For me it is almost melancholic.

Is this some kind of trap or is the serious, curious.

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Originally posted by The Dark NINJA Is this some kind of trap or is the serious, curious.

Lol, this is good question -> but I still like the original one more from Don Henley

Cheers

So much box gap in that video.

Maybe all the box gap is causing you to have emotions.

I thought i was the only one who can get emotional from cheesy songs.



And i think "Better Off Alone" is even a better example of that duality you are speaking of.

It's Probably just nostalgic value of it all.

I'm not gonna listen to that crap, but if I recall correctly these melodies follow the 4chord pop template. So that's probably why you like it.

Showing my age here, but I was in high school when Don Henley released the original and covered this song in countless cover bands - it was sorta mandatory to cover this song in every dive bar until about the mid-90s. Anyway, I digress, but I don't think sad or melancholy are emotions that I've ever gotten from it, especially not this cheesy (and I mean that in a good way) remake of it. But, I can see where it could, especially if nostalgia is invoked, as Viber mentioned.

I don't recall what key the original is in and I'm work so I can't figure out the chords to this one now (probably Gmaj or F#maj, based on the vocal range). The vocals on the original are pretty high for most guys, but just about right (or maybe a half-step or so low) for most girls, and I'm pretty sure I've played it in everything from F#maj to Amaj. From what I recall, it's a pretty basic 4-chord pop progression, as mario said. From memory/ear, the verse is just vi, IV, V (i.e., has a minor/sad feel to it), and the chorus is I, V, IV (i.e., has a major/happier feel to it). It also has some extensions/suspensions on the chord variations, which definitely makes it more interesting than many standard pop progressions.

Ha, you used my way to represent minor keys within a major context which is the way people do it with good ears and like to keep things simple.

You used to always use the aeolian VII VII I.

Here is another one. Not as much as Sammy or D'Agostino, but still...


Do you find that track sad/melancholic?

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Originally posted by Viber It's Probably just nostalgic value of it all.

Mate, it can't be nostalgia cause I never really liked or listened these tracks in the past. I believe there is some dark energy in these progressions. The question is if it was meant or it is by pure accident.

Alice Deejay also has some tracks that sadden me.

lol dark energy. there is nothing special about those chords. it is nostalgia. pop has been using those chords for decades. `Wagner was using that progression. I mean it is pretty fucking old.

i did not find it sad. If i was a twinky rtaver with my raver boyfriend and we were really fucking high giving each other candy kisses, i would find this happy and beautiful.



this is rather dark , not gonna use sad but impossible for most to hear as happy.

What do you mean exaclty by nostalgia? Cause nostalgia means you're missing the good times from the past. But that period, when these tracks were current, was the worst one of my whole life. So I definitely don't feel nostalgia about these moments.



It is dark, and it's obvious. I was expecting you to post something ambiguous.

Guys. He's trolling. Just read it out loud.

It's a thread on the compositional merits of DJ Sammy.

What next? The Freudian analysis of Scooter's greatest hits?

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Originally posted by TranceElevation What do you mean exaclty by nostalgia? Cause nostalgia means you're missing the good times from the past. But that period, when these tracks were current, was the worst one of my whole life. So I definitely don't feel nostalgia about these moments. It is dark, and it's obvious. I was expecting you to post something ambiguous. It's like posting Myl�ne Farmer.

yes

most things sentimental are obvious. Thats the whole point.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Guys. He's trolling. Just read it out loud. It's a thread on the compositional merits of DJ Sammy. What next? The Freudian analysis of Scooter's greatest hits?

What's wrong with Dj Sammy my brother? Value can be found everywhere as long as you're soul is sufficiently rich to catch and appreciate.

I'm glad we're on a similar wave.
However what I'm referring specifically is the false message of
joyfulness.
In Saltwater for example there isn't that incertitude I'm talking about.


Like this one, it's a great example.



The melody is apparently "happy", but than you listen to the lyrics:


Look at me standing here
Crying out my final tears
Look at me in the rain
Call me I won't leave again
Look at me standing here
Crying out my final tears
Look at me in the rain

Do you remember when you told me you
Didn't want anyone else but me?
Well I'm that same girl is all you need to say

I want you back in my life
Want you back by my side
That's where you belong
I won't give you up
I will never stop
My love is much too strong

These lyrics are genuine, talking about delusion, loneliness, perseverance, about almost infantile kind of love, pure and innocent.

And this imo creates a sort of duality. A supposedly happy melody that actually narrates a sad sad story.
I noticed this is a common trait of the tracks that give me this feeling.
But as I wrote, the melody, the chords are false. They are not categorically happy, they are elusive, swaying between sad and happy...


Check this one out:


Seems allegro...

But then you listen to the slow version...and when you add the lyrics you got this...and at this point the thing is pretty explicit.


So this shows that tempo and sound selection also have a role in the perception of a melody.

reminds me of this tune, i always thought it was such a rhythmic uplifter until i read up on what the song is really about

The lyrics are additive in the case, but not determinant. At the core is still the melody which underlines a contrast.

And noticed only now Viber mentioned 'Better Off Alone' in his previous comment. Another good example although a bit more obviously tending towards the sad side.


La passion...



Again that formula. A raw cheesy sawthoot playing a melody I perceive to be profoundly sad, with andantino like tempo and sad lyrics.

This whole package imo creates something special that remains impressed in people's minds.
You can laugh as much as you want at "Better Off Alone" or "Boys Of Summer" but these tracks now are at 10 years, or even older and they are still praised and appreciated by millions of people around the world.
I wonder how would appear many of nowadays "hits" after such period of time. Would anybody even remember them? Time will tell us.

Back in my life gives me memories.

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