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I can't get over how many copies Andres sold of New 4 U

Seriously. Median price on discogs is 35 dollars, and that is with 33 copies currently in the marketplace. 2000 owners!?? I cannot think of a vinyl that sold this much in such a short amount of time.

http://www.discogs.com/Andr%C3%A9s-...release/3395216

Clearly money well spent for Disco Deep House Record #124,211.

Nice. Do EP's like this usually get a reprint based on demand?(including the time frame from release.)

2000 records in 2 years?

I'll sell you a copy for 34.99. It is just gathering dust.

Always been partial to Jazz Dance.

I can find you a flac rip.

I forget but to even turn a profit on vinyl releases, don't you need to sell around 2-3000 plates? Lol at the prices, you'd think one person would lower it by $5 just to get rid of it.

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Originally posted by Syntonic I forget but to even turn a profit on vinyl releases, don't you need to sell around 2-3000 plates? Lol at the prices, you'd think one person would lower it by $5 just to get rid of it.

It is way easier to press vinyl than it used to be. You can do it at home ffs. They sell everything here to do it for ridiculously low prices.

For reference, Bing Crosby's White Christmas (the most sold single ever according to Guinness World Records) has under 100 owners on Discogs.

MCDE's Raw Cuts 3/4 and 5/6 are probably the closest in recent years to the magnitude of sales of New for U.

I dont own either of those. Should I?

Dude, most definitely. Classics, all 4 tracks. They are raw, but spiffy clean. Sampling at its absolute finest. They sound amazing on headphones, and thump in the club. Brilliantly produced, probably MCDE's best stuff sonically. They've been available digitally for a while and these records still sell.

*puts on rp-dh1200's*

yeah MCDE was the last person to do numbers in the vinyl world.

The funny thing is even mediocre indie bands can still shift like 10k records these days. I see people posting these "vinyl resurgence" graph charts all the time but the increased sales over the years are 99% not dance music. It's actually funny, in 1993 back when dance sales were through the roof and someone like Basic Channel could shift 50k copies, the overall sales were abysmal because no one outside of dance music was buying vinyl. Now dance releases sell like 300 copies on average but overall vinyl sales are at the highest since 20 years. Shows how insignificant dance music is in the grand scheme. I bet like 30% of today's vinyl sales are just Michael Jackson re-issues.

I can't remember the exact figure, but at its peak around 2000, dance music accounted for something like 18% of UK record sales. The issue is more than vinyl was a more specialist purchase back then - even the majority of dance music fans wouldn't buy much vinyl because it was only useful to DJs. Now any old bastard is buying vinyl for the materialistic thrill.

Yeah a lot of American chain stores (Urban Outfitters, Hot Topic, Best Buy) are now carrying tons of vinyl of popular indie bands, hiphop groups and the occasional pop/dance record (Random Access Memories). Kinda ironic how this happened only a short while after all the dance fans moved mainly to digital.

Though I always thought it ironic how a genre once so obsessed with futurism held on to vinyl for so long.

Actually Luke there has been a major shift back to vinyl in terms of underground house and techno since last year. A lot of the music I tend to play these days is only released on vinyl. There are even some labels that were releasing digitally and recently stopped doing so, only releasing on vinyl now.

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Originally posted by Adam420 There are even some labels that were releasing digitally and recently stopped doing so, only releasing on vinyl now.

Which ones?

Sushitech and Eklo come to mind

Wow I had no idea Eklo stopped releasing digitally.

In my opinion, these labels figured out that it's better to keep the value of the record high by not putting it out digitally, rather than doing so, having maybe 20 people buy it and the rest download it for free. Because digital sales for some of the more underground stuff can be pathetically low, so it's better to increase demand for the vinyl than to put it out digitally, which honestly pretty much equates to giving it away for free (since all it takes is one person to buy the release and upload it - the rest download it without paying). That's just what I think anyway. Also, the only way to ultimately encourage people to play records is by not giving them a choice and only releasing music in that format. That was the case with me anyway

Of course there are still some cases when there is a digital release but the record is still sought after (L.I.E.S., Hinge Finger and Ostgut Ton come to mind, for example).

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Originally posted by Adam420 Sushitech and Eklo come to mind

Also Traut and Sudden Drop.

And I don't really know Adam, I think most people that are willing to buy this kind of music on vinyl to begin with are people that play most/all of their music on vinyl regardless if it's available digitally or not. I don't see any indication that vinyl-only labels sell more copies on average.

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Originally posted by Adam420 In my opinion, these labels figured out that it's better to keep the value of the record high by not putting it out digitally, rather than doing so, having maybe 20 people buy it and the rest download it for free. Because digital sales for some of the more underground stuff can be pathetically low, so it's better to increase demand for the vinyl than to put it out digitally, which honestly pretty much equates to giving it away for free (since all it takes is one person to buy the release and upload it - the rest download it without paying). That's just what I think anyway. Also, the only way to ultimately encourage people to play records is by not giving them a choice and only releasing music in that format.

It's also great marketing, crafting the notion of scarcity, and thus uniqueness in a sea of similar-sounding house and techno. Because let's be honest: how many folks out there would care about the exact same tracks if they simply got lumped into Beatport's catalog, where everyone can grab 'em?

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Originally posted by Mr Game+Watch Yeah a lot of American chain stores (Urban Outfitters, Hot Topic, Best Buy) are now carrying tons of vinyl of popular indie bands, hiphop groups and the occasional pop/dance record (Random Access Memories).

Hot Topic has been selling vinyl since the early 00's, they carried some decent releases too...used to pick up dark prog there

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Originally posted by Sykonee It's also great marketing, crafting the notion of scarcity, and thus uniqueness in a sea of similar-sounding house and techno. Because let's be honest: how many folks out there would care about the exact same tracks if they simply got lumped into Beatport's catalog, where everyone can grab 'em?

I haven't come across any case where a label that goes digital looses out on popularity. But you are right, while there isn't nearly as much crap as in the digital-only sphere, there is a lot of average stuff in the vinyl-only sphere that probably wouldn't get too much attention as a digital only release. An interesting example is the Knowone label which re-issued a bunch of Netlabel tracks nobody cared about on limited marbled anonymous wax (without telling people where the tracks are from) and suddenly generated a lot of buzz. I like to call it it the 'white label effect' and it's definitely something you have to be aware of when buying since it's pretty basic human psychology and hard to avoid.

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