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Posted by Swamper on Feb-17-2014 23:43:

Anyone here use bluetooth headphones?

I see a couple of no name brands on Amazon and Monoprice and then on Apple we have:

http://store.apple.com/ca/product/H...ooth-headphones

Any recommendations from those who have some?


Posted by TRANCE_DOG007 on Feb-18-2014 16:45:

Harmon Kardon BT.


http://reviews.cnet.com/headsets/ha...7-35645547.html


Posted by Swamper on Feb-18-2014 20:20:

Thanks but too big... I want something small for the gym


Posted by The Dark NINJA on Feb-19-2014 01:27:

Yeah man, its bitch running on the treadmill or lifting weights with them wire cables.


Posted by TRANCE_DOG007 on Feb-19-2014 08:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
Thanks but too big... I want something small for the gym


Here is another site I came across which might have some ideas. Good luck on your hunt.

http://wireless-earbuds-review.toptenreviews.com/


Posted by aquila on Feb-19-2014 12:25:

I hate bluetooth audio. It's like listening to badly encoded shit from Napster again.


Posted by The Dark NINJA on Feb-19-2014 15:46:

When your at the gym does quality really matter?


Posted by Trance-M on Feb-19-2014 20:26:

quote:
Originally posted by TRANCE_DOG007
http://reviews.cnet.com/headsets/ha...7-35645547.html


Worth checking:

http://reviews.cnet.com/best-stereo...oth-headphones/

http://wireless-earbuds-review.toptenreviews.com/

http://www.techlicious.com/review/t...s-october-2013/


Posted by Dj Skez on Feb-19-2014 22:01:

Little article from a legitimate source.


Diseases that can be caused to exposure to Bluetooth technology
It is been observed in many studies that all wireless technology that emits microwave radiation and is exposed to the human body has a long term effect on us causing many diseases like:
Cancer
Leukemia
Brain Tumors
Alzheimer
Autism
ADD
Miscarriages
Birth Defects
Autoimmune illnesses / degenerative diseases
Multiple sclerosis
Hair loss
As we use the Bluetooth device in our ear, it exposes our ear, brain and the eyes to a strong field of microwave radiation which may cause:
Deafness
Brain Tumors
Blindness
Neck pain / stiffness
Skin rashes
Headaches
We need to know that microwave frequencies have a short wavelength but rapid rate of oscillation which enables them to travel long distances carrying information without any wire. These short wavelengths with rapid oscillation enable them to penetrate through even living tissues down to a cellular level. So, now I think we have an idea of idea about how this Bluetooth technology functions and how much harm it may cause to our health.
See this article from CNN on the risks of Bluetooth headsets.

I would strongly advise against it.


Posted by meriter on Feb-19-2014 22:48:

quote:
Originally posted by aquila
I hate bluetooth audio. It's like listening to badly encoded shit from Napster again.



I was wondering if it was just me... I tried out those Samson mediaone monitors and the sound was just awful, shockingly bad for being a major selling point


Posted by Psyshell on Feb-19-2014 23:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Skez
Little article from a legitimate source.

So legit that you haven't posted the link?

Also my personal opinion on that is that some wave types and intensity can be bad but others not so much. I wouldn't have a clue about bluetooth. One thing I do know though is that one of my tafe teachers who used to work at RMIT uni on the top floor had 10 colleages who also worked there, 6 of which now have brain cancer (very likely caused by the mobile phone tower situated on top of the building). With that said, bluetooth is such a common technology that if it were causing cancer on a massive scale there would've been wide reports about it.

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Skez
We need to know that microwave frequencies have a short wavelength but rapid rate of oscillation which enables them to travel long distances carrying information without any wire. These short wavelengths with rapid oscillation enable them to penetrate through even living tissues down to a cellular level.

You do realise that thousands of gamma rays are passing through you every second and that they do (almost) nothing right? Please get a clue. Just because things pass through solid matter doesn't mean they're dangerous.


Posted by Dj Skez on Feb-19-2014 23:14:

Here you go Psyshell , the legit source. If you need more just pm me.

http://www.cancer.gov/

This article is from the official government site and derived from research from the National Cancer Institute here in the U.S.

What has research shown about the possible cancer-causing effects of radiofrequency energy?


Although there have been some concerns that radiofrequency energy from cell phones held closely to the head may affect the brain and other tissues, to date there is no evidence from studies of cells, animals, or humans that radiofrequency energy can cause cancer.

It is generally accepted that damage to DNA is necessary for cancer to develop. However, radiofrequency energy, unlike ionizing radiation, does not cause DNA damage in cells, and it has not been found to cause cancer in animals or to enhance the cancer-causing effects of known chemical carcinogens in animals (3�5).

Researchers have carried out several types of epidemiologic studies to investigate the possibility of a relationship between cell phone use and the risk of malignant (cancerous) brain tumors, such as gliomas, as well as benign (noncancerous) tumors, such as acoustic neuromas (tumors in the cells of the nerve responsible for hearing), most meningiomas (tumors in the meninges, membranes that cover and protect the brain and spinal cord), and parotid gland tumors (tumors in the salivary glands) (6).

In one type of study, called a case-control study, cell phone use is compared between people with these types of tumors and people without them. In another type of study, called a cohort study, a large group of people is followed over time and the rate of these tumors in people who did and didn�t use cell phones is compared. Cancer incidence data can also be analyzed over time to see if the rates of cancer changed in large populations during the time that cell phone use increased dramatically. The results of these studies have generally not provided clear evidence of a relationship between cell phone use and cancer, but there have been some statistically significant findings in certain subgroups of people.

Findings from specific research studies are summarized below:

The Interphone Study, conducted by a consortium of researchers from 13 countries, is the largest health-related case-control study of use of cell phones and head and neck tumors. Most published analyses from this study have shown no statistically significant increases in brain or central nervous system cancers related to higher amounts of cell phone use. One recent analysis showed a statistically significant, albeit modest, increase in the risk of glioma among the small proportion of study participants who spent the most total time on cell phone calls. However, the researchers considered this finding inconclusive because they felt that the amount of use reported by some respondents was unlikely and because the participants who reported lower levels of use appeared to have a slightly reduced risk of brain cancer compared with people who did not use cell phones regularly (7�9). Another recent study from the group found no relationship between brain tumor locations and regions of the brain that were exposed to the highest level of radiofrequency energy from cell phones (10).
A cohort study in Denmark linked billing information from more than 358,000 cell phone subscribers with brain tumor incidence data from the Danish Cancer Registry. The analyses found no association between cell phone use and the incidence of glioma, meningioma, or acoustic neuroma, even among people who had been cell phone subscribers for 13 or more years (11�13).
The prospective Million Women Study in the United Kingdom found that self-reported cell phone use was not associated with an increased risk of glioma, meningioma, or non-central nervous system tumors. The researchers did find that the use of cell phones for more than 5 years was associated with an increased risk of acoustic neuroma, and that the risk of acoustic neuroma increased with increasing duration of cell phone use (14). However, the incidence of these tumors among men and women in the United Kingdom did not increase during 1998 to 2008, even though cell phone use increased dramatically over that decade (14).
An early case-control study in the United States was unable to demonstrate a relationship between cell phone use and glioma or meningioma (15).
Some case-control studies in Sweden found statistically significant trends of increasing brain cancer risk for the total amount of cell phone use and the years of use among people who began using cell phones before age 20 (16). However, another large, case-control study in Sweden did not find an increased risk of brain cancer among people between the ages of 20 and 69 (17). In addition, the international CEFALO study, which compared children who were diagnosed with brain cancer between ages 7 and 19 with similar children who were not, found no relationship between their cell phone use and risk for brain cancer (18).
NCI's Surveillance, Epidemiology, and End Results (SEER) Program, which tracks cancer incidence in the United States over time, found no increase in the incidence of brain or other central nervous system cancers between 1987 and 2007, despite the dramatic increase in cell phone use in this country during that time (19, 20). Similarly, incidence data from Denmark, Finland, Norway, and Sweden for the period 1974�2008 revealed no increase in age-adjusted incidence of brain tumors (21, 22). A 2012 study by NCI researchers, which compared observed glioma incidence rates in SEER with projected rates based on risks observed in the Interphone study (8), found that the projected rates were consistent with observed U.S. rates. The researchers also compared the SEER rates with projected rates based on a Swedish study published in 2011 (16). They determined that the projected rates were at least 40 percent higher than, and incompatible with, the actual U.S. rates.
Studies of workers exposed to radiofrequency energy have shown no evidence of increased risk of brain tumors among U.S. Navy electronics technicians, aviation technicians, or fire control technicians, those working in an electromagnetic pulse test program, plastic-ware workers, cellular phone manufacturing workers, or Navy personnel with a high probability of exposure to radar (6).


Posted by Dj Skez on Feb-19-2014 23:20:

As you can see according to this article the use of cell phone is fairly safe but we're talking about long term use of the bluetooth in your ear. When I was a commercial driver, my own doctor who works for the New York Department of Transportation strongly advised against bluetooth and told me that it would be safer if I use the wired ear piece when driving. Many of these studies haven't been done long enough on a controlled scale to truly know the long term effects. It's a toss up , but I'd rather be safe than sorry.


Posted by Psyshell on Feb-19-2014 23:37:

Looks like extremely weak evidence or even evidence against it. Like to state one obvious problem, people who use cell phones may have a slightly different diet or lifestyle to those who don't. Case-Control study in US doesn't show anything. One swedish one finds statistically significant amount (which IIRC means above 5%) and one doesn't. It honestly doesn't look like anything to worry about. I suppose it does take a while for us to know for sure, and the studies haven't shown there's definitely nothing.


Posted by Dj Skez on Feb-19-2014 23:54:

In these days it seems like everything can cause cancer, even a lot of the bottled water brands have been shown in an investigation done by the F.D.A here in the U.S. to not be as pure and safe to drink as certain companies claim. I think I have a better chance of surviving a bite from a Sydney funnel web spider than food poisoning from a New York restaurant. If you want to take your chances with bluetooth use, go ahead if you're comftorable with it


Posted by Psyshell on Feb-20-2014 00:15:

Well plastic bottles is another topic entirely, but I try to avoid them wherever possible especially if they've had water in them for a while. I'll buy stuff from the store but I'd never drink from a gym bottle that's had water left in it for a month. There's loads of evidence behind the problems with BPAs. About bluetooth: basically to sum up as I said earlier, it looks like the evidence for bluetooth could go either way.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Feb-20-2014 08:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Skez
Diseases that can be caused to exposure to Bluetooth technology
It is been observed in many studies that all wireless technology that emits microwave radiation and is exposed to the human body has a long term effect on us causing many diseases like:


according to the site you provided, there have been plenty of studies re non-ionized radiation, from well before cellphones achieved common usage:

quote:

Exposure to ionizing radiation, such as from radiation therapy, is known to increase the risk of cancer. However, although many studies have examined the potential health effects of non-ionizing radiation from radar, microwave ovens, and other sources, there is currently no consistent evidence that non-ionizing radiation increases cancer risk.

The only known biological effect of radiofrequency energy is heating. The ability of microwave ovens to heat food is one example of this effect of radiofrequency energy. Radiofrequency exposure from cell phone use does cause heating; however, it is not sufficient to measurably increase body temperature.

A recent study showed that when people used a cell phone for 50 minutes, brain tissues on the same side of the head as the phone�s antenna metabolized more glucose than did tissues on the opposite side of the brain (2). The researchers noted that the results are preliminary, and possible health outcomes from this increase in glucose metabolism are still unknown.


quote:

Cancer
Leukemia
Brain Tumors
Alzheimer
Autism
ADD
Miscarriages
Birth Defects
Autoimmune illnesses / degenerative diseases
Multiple sclerosis
Hair loss

As we use the Bluetooth device in our ear, it exposes our ear, brain and the eyes to a strong field of microwave radiation which may cause:

Deafness
Brain Tumors
Blindness
Neck pain / stiffness
Skin rashes
Headaches


anytime someone identifies a single-cause for every health ailment under the sun, it is cause for immediate scepticism. by what mechanism does the radiation cause all those problems?

the WHO released THIS press release in 2011 suggesting a link between cellphone use and one particular form of cancer. hardly enough to justify an entire list of nasties.

quote:

We need to know that microwave frequencies have a short wavelength but rapid rate of oscillation which enables them to travel long distances carrying information without any wire. These short wavelengths with rapid oscillation enable them to penetrate through even living tissues down to a cellular level. So, now I think we have an idea of idea about how this Bluetooth technology functions and how much harm it may cause to our health.


im no expert on radiation, but this reeks of pseudoscientific bollocks.


Posted by Psyshell on Feb-22-2014 10:14:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
im no expert on radiation, but this reeks of pseudoscientific bollocks.

Worse. It's not unverified claims. It's just wrong.


Posted by Swamper on Feb-28-2014 06:28:

Just found this on Kickstarter.... looks impressive

https://www.kickstarter.com/project...-ear-headphones


Posted by TRANCE_DOG007 on Feb-28-2014 16:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
Just found this on Kickstarter.... looks impressive

https://www.kickstarter.com/project...-ear-headphones


I want a pair of those!!! Nice find & info!



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