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Posted by LoveHate on Feb-21-2014 04:48:

cool tips and tricks 2014

What is some new production related skill that you recently learned, that you didn't know last year ?


Posted by SystematicX1 on Feb-21-2014 05:42:

Vocal Ghosting. I knew how to do it using tape but in Ableton..well, I never tried.


Posted by evo8 on Feb-21-2014 14:03:

cant really think of any new tricks per se, just mixing tweaks...


Posted by meriter on Feb-21-2014 22:08:

I learned how to pose for promo shots


Posted by MSZ on Feb-21-2014 23:21:

Limiter press every sound for consistency, learned it from some brostepper.


Posted by DJRYAN� on Feb-22-2014 05:24:

quote:
Originally posted by MSZ
Limiter press every sound for consistency, learned it from some brostepper.


I like that one.. makes the waveforms nice and uniformed, tight, and they look good in smexoscope.. Gets rid of some nasty artifacts too.. The strangling pieces of nothingness that just pops out of nowhere..


Posted by cryophonik on Feb-22-2014 23:34:

I just invented a most ingenious way (if I do say so myself) for getting rid of plosives (boomy "p" or "b" sounds) using phase cancellation*:

- clone the vocal track with the plosive

- reverse the phase on the new track so that the audio on the two tracks are phase-cancelling each other out

- zoom into the plosive on the second track and delete everything to the left and right of the plosive; the original track will now play back normally, except for the plosive, which will be silent.

- put an EQ or filter on the new track (i.e., the one with the plosive) and set one band to low-pass (or band-pass)

- bring the frequency down to around 300-500Hz

- keep the section looping and sweep around to find the best frequency that isolates and attenuates just the plosive

- use the volume on the second plosive track to dial in the amount of plosive reduction

Basically, the second track is using phase-cancellation to cancel out just the boomy frequencies in the original track, and the volume control is essentially acting as a "ducking" control to allow some of the plosives back in (in case it thins out too much). Between the frequency cutoff on the EQ/filter and the volume knob, it's pretty easy to dial in as much/little plosive reduction as you want.




* I'm guessing somebody else has thought of this before, but I've never seen it, so I hereby claim credit for it.


Posted by cryophonik on Feb-22-2014 23:53:

quote:
Originally posted by scorpradio
Vocal Ghosting. I knew how to do it using tape but in Ableton..well, I never tried.


I was playing around with some vocal ghosting a few weeks ago and just updated it with MicroShift:

http://www.cryophonik.com/files/ghost_vocals_test.mp3

After I re-reversed the reverb part, I added some little delay, then spread it out left/right using Microshift. Then, I blended the original (dry) vocal back in over the ghosted vocal part, and sidechained/ducked the ghosted part with the lead.


Posted by Teezdalien on Feb-23-2014 00:40:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
I was playing around with some vocal ghosting a few weeks ago and just updated it with MicroShift:


How are you finding the Microshift plug? Do the extra parameters and functions give it much more of an advantage over the little microshift?

Reason I ask is that I have been using little microshift a lot over the last few months and want to know if it's worth upgrading to the full fledged version, I know it's currently discounted and all but I'm on a pretty tight budget now seeing that I'm a student again.

I guess giving the demo a crack would be the best way to find out!


Posted by DJ RANN on Feb-23-2014 01:18:

This one is more for the noobs as I'm sure everyone with a bit of experience does it, but I know some things we take for granted are still useful to others:

Removing resonant frequencies fast and easily. This will help with sounds one that is "ringing" a little and making a mess of your frequency separation by clashing with others. This happens especially with sounds that have a wide frequency content, especially those which have a lot of resonance such as hang drums, bells , chimes or even mid basses etc.

1, Load up your preferred EQ dial in a band pass peak at 24db with a very tight Q so it's quite a precise spike.

2, While on loop, starting at the LF, sweep the peak slowly upwards through the sound until you hit a point of resonance - this will sound like a ringing that sort of clips your speakers.

3, Dial in that exact point, then turn +24db in to something like -6db and and dial the other way on the Q, until it's a shallow dip (but not totally flat - about half way).

4, How whatever frequency you just dialed in to, double it and make another sharp spike there, flip it and smooth it out. Yep, that's the next harmonic point of resonance.
This one however will need slightly less reduction maybe only -5 or -4db.

5, Now with sounds that have a lot of resonance you can repeat this up the frequency range until you have 4 or 5 increasingly smaller "dips" at each resonant harmonic.

Ringing/unwanted resonance solved!


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Feb-23-2014 04:46:

designing envelopes in tools like cable guys midi shaper then using pre made environment setups that allow them to be plugged to any parameter. Lots of nest surprises/.

Resampling using absinth or harmour for interesting sounds.

using a spectrogram to basically steal the groove from classic tracks. yields about 5 midi templates which provide that tension.

spend lots of time making channel chains just experimenting.

using modular synths as processors for other synth inputs.

using iPads as fx processors for external synths.

using lots of guitar pedals , multi fx and stuff like line 6 hd5000 , and axe tx 2.

using nebula.

and trying to use as little material and changing that material making the most of it. basically , trying to make things as cohesive and parsimonious as possible.
using real instruments guitar , bass.

using lemurr to alter dousands of parameters in ways you don't expect giving you interring results.

and i use 3 computers for offloading processing, it makes things more compartmentalized. so 2 mac pros , iMac and a pc. although i don't really use those heavily except when doing sample stuff were you have about 40 gigs of ram in use. i also have 2 mini drobos with 8 512 ssds in a raid 0 setup.


Posted by cryophonik on Feb-23-2014 05:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Teezdalien
How are you finding the Microshift plug? Do the extra parameters and functions give it much more of an advantage over the little microshift?

Reason I ask is that I have been using little microshift a lot over the last few months and want to know if it's worth upgrading to the full fledged version,


Absolutely. It's worth it for the Focus control alone, which is essentially a crossover point for the width split. The few extra controls really extend it's range and usefulness. If you use it much and can find a way to swing the extra $49, I'd go for it.


Posted by Teezdalien on Feb-23-2014 05:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
and i use 3 computers for offloading processing, it makes things more compartmentalized. so 2 mac pros , iMac and a pc. although i don't really use those heavily except when doing sample stuff were you have about 40 gigs of ram in use. i also have 2 mini drobos with 8 512 ssds in a raid 0 setup.


Bloody Hell!

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
Absolutely. It's worth it for the Focus control alone, which is essentially a crossover point for the width split. The few extra controls really extend it's range and usefulness. If you use it much and swing the extra $49, I'd go for it.


Thanks, I've been leaning heavily towards just upgrading the thing as it has been getting a lot of use and is convenient. Probably well worth it for less than fifty bucks.


Posted by LoveHate on Feb-23-2014 09:42:

Some nice tips , I was a bit curious about something I might as well ask it in here I notice a lot of people are using a muted kick as the input for their sidechaining nowadays, what kind of benefit does this serve besides having your pads and what not pumping during a breakdown as opposed to doing it the old fashioned way?


Posted by evo8 on Feb-23-2014 11:34:

quote:
Originally posted by LoveHate
Some nice tips , I was a bit curious about something I might as well ask it in here I notice a lot of people are using a muted kick as the input for their sidechaining nowadays, what kind of benefit does this serve besides having your pads and what not pumping during a breakdown as opposed to doing it the old fashioned way?


Used to always run a muted sidechain track, dont bother anymore as i found that sidechaining seems to work better using whatever kick is in your track, i just find its easier to get the release right


Posted by cryophonik on Feb-23-2014 15:46:

I haven't used a muted kick in years. Vengeance MB-SC or LFOTool are much better alternatives IMO.


Posted by evo8 on Mar-08-2014 13:52:

this is new to me anyway - and probably not for people averse to touching the mixbus

Pultec EQP-1A on the mixbuss

Set Low frequency to 30
Bandwidth to 7
Now set Atten to 10 - removing pretty much all the low end
Then dial the low end back up to taste with the Boost
Sit back and enjoy the sound!

Obviously can be done with various other EQs, not sure if it will sound as good tho


Posted by Teezdalien on Mar-08-2014 21:21:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
this is new to me anyway - and probably not for people averse to touching the mixbus

Pultec EQP-1A on the mixbuss

Set Low frequency to 30
Bandwidth to 7
Now set Atten to 10 - removing pretty much all the low end
Then dial the low end back up to taste with the Boost
Sit back and enjoy the sound!

Obviously can be done with various other EQs, not sure if it will sound as good tho


Nice, quite similar to the classic pultec low end trick. I don't normally do this with the EQ strapped over the mix buss, but nearly always use this technique with my kicks. I usually end up with the low frequency dial set to 60hz as most of the time it sounds better to my ears for my sounds.
You can do this with majority of pultec clones, I use the PE1C from Tube-Tech.


Posted by evo8 on Mar-09-2014 09:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Teezdalien
Nice, quite similar to the classic pultec low end trick. I don't normally do this with the EQ strapped over the mix buss, but nearly always use this technique with my kicks. I usually end up with the low frequency dial set to 60hz as most of the time it sounds better to my ears for my sounds.
You can do this with majority of pultec clones, I use the PE1C from Tube-Tech.


its sweet because you can boost the low end quite a bit but it never really sounds too much unless you go way overboard

the softube plugins are supposedly very good



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