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Posted by Kirby on Oct-07-2002 13:55:

"Epic trance" = ???

When people use the term 'Epic trance' what are they referring to? When they give examples, all the examples tend to be songs with outstanding melodic lines, and average-standard percussion and bass use. So what exactly do they mean by the term 'epic', is it describing a type of song which has an incredibly melody which is memorable and also very uplifting?


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Oct-07-2002 13:58:

aye memorable tunes like Binary Finary - XXXX and For An Angel, and Synasthesia, Airwave, etc.


Posted by Kirby on Oct-07-2002 14:00:

Ah so it seems to have more to do with the impact of the song on the listening audience, like how much they end up appreciating it and globally knowing of it, rather than a technical description of the song's architecture...


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Oct-07-2002 14:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Kirby
Ah so it seems to have more to do with the impact of the song on the listening audience, like how much they end up appreciating it and globally knowing of it, rather than a technical description of the song's architecture...


i believe so yes.


Posted by oDrori on Oct-07-2002 14:15:

Well said Mikey Mike!

Basically, Epic Trance is pretty much Melodic Trance or Uplifting Trance or Euphoric Trance etc.
But with time people started taking only the most epic, the most atmosheric, mood lifting and shifting tracks of these to call them EPIC... But as you probably know, this is something that varies from person to person, so, yes, "Epic Trance" is more of an impact definition.


Posted by m0sh on Oct-07-2002 14:32:

Blah dont have the power to explain

basicly it has much massive bulidup then uplifting....

Darren tate is the epic master


Posted by Kinde on Oct-07-2002 14:35:

Personally I think it has much more to do with the structure, the length and the production of the tune... epic trance tunes are always these mammoth tunes which go on for well over ten minutes and have a lot of variation in the melody and in the mood of the song... just listen to Sunday Club's Eterna's Flight and you'll know what I mean...


Posted by TranceSeeker on Oct-07-2002 14:46:

Epic = memorable
Tracks that are set to be classics, they're maybe not the best tracks for YOU (or me), just everything around it, the hype, the mainstream, the dj's who spin it, the videoclip.
Iio - rapture is an epic tune (maybe not the best example but this one is an epic tune)

Better examples are:

Push - universal nation
Sasha - xpander
Bedrock heaven scent
Space Brothers - shine
Cass & Slide - perception
Rank 1 - airwave
...

Actually tracks that everyone knows because they were very hyped that period and were set to become classics.

Like Kirby said....
quote:

Ah so it seems to have more to do with the impact of the song on the listening audience, like how much they end up appreciating it and globally knowing of it, rather than a technical description of the song's architecture...


Posted by m0sh on Oct-07-2002 15:09:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceSeeker

Sasha - xpander



BS!

NO WAY

Good exemple is

orion tracks


Posted by DJ-Kuza on Oct-07-2002 16:50:

I think Epic trance have more high end sounds. Like more on the top 2 EQ's then the bottom 2. If it's uplifting and melodic with a build, it's epic.


Posted by TranceSeeker on Oct-07-2002 17:27:

quote:
Originally posted by MoSH_MaN



BS!

NO WAY

Good exemple is

orion tracks


OMG.....
I faint...


Posted by Vanilla on Oct-07-2002 18:36:

Like most genres, it probably varies for each person. My definition of epic would be a combo of melodic and uplifting. Really if it's one of those songs where you just have to close your eyes and say wow.


Posted by m0sh on Oct-07-2002 20:05:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceSeeker


OMG.....
I faint...



Orion - Eternity (Darren Tate Mix)

EPIC

NOT Sasha


Posted by Asperge on Oct-07-2002 20:21:

EPIC:

DELERIUM - SILENCE(TIESTO'S ISOS RMX)

DREAMCATCHER - I DON'T WANNA LOOSE MY WAY(MAGIK MUZIK MIX)


Posted by Xenius on Oct-07-2002 20:59:

Hrm, when I think of "epic" I think of melodic, uplifting and being taken on a journey. Good DJ's take you on a journey during a set, good producers can do it in a song.


Posted by OrZonE on Oct-07-2002 21:07:

A MASSIVE buildup, not only should you feel it, you should also hear it. So its got a massive feeling to it and a massive sound its epic


Posted by TranceSeeker on Oct-07-2002 21:09:

quote:
Originally posted by MoSH_MaN



Orion - Eternity (Darren Tate Mix)

EPIC

NOT Sasha


I know it's an amazing track but to be epic it has just too few potential.
Like the above post it's about the hype, in how much people appreciate it, how far the track reaches etc...
The track u said is way from that imo.
Prolly only half of the guys here on the forum don't even know the track, see what I mean, too little potential...
Tracks like Xpander everyone knows

Hope u understand me


Posted by aloep on Oct-07-2002 21:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Kinde
Personally I think it has much more to do with the structure, the length and the production of the tune... epic trance tunes are always these mammoth tunes which go on for well over ten minutes and have a lot of variation in the melody and in the mood of the song... just listen to Sunday Club's Eterna's Flight and you'll know what I mean...


Yes, I agree with you.
A lot of Epic Trance came out of the UK during the mid 90's by artists such as Qattara, Sunday Club, Trouser Enthusiasts, Heliotropic, Disco Citizens, Lost Tribe, The Space Brothers etc. Usually it has more 'elements' in it than 'uplifting' and has a lot of piano, lengthy intro's and dreamy female vocals. As with most sub-genre's of electronic music there are LOTS of tracks which fall between 'Epic' and Uplifting. There are also tracks which fall between Epic and Progressive such as Blue Amazon - And Then The Rain Falls as an example.

Here's some tracks which typify Epic Trance in my opinion:

Ascension - Someone
Lost Tribe - Gamemaster
Disco Citizens - Footprint (Sonic Original)
Art Of Trance - Kaleidoscope (Sunday Club Lens Of Atlantic Mix)
Loveclub - The Journey (Trouser Enthusiasts Mix)
Qattara - Come With Me
Alex Whitcombe & Big C - Ice Rain (Heliotropic Epic Vocal)

I know some will class it differently but that's what Epic Trance is from my personal point of view.


Posted by TranceSeeker on Oct-07-2002 21:54:

Actually I had been thinking....
Fuck cares if a track is named epic


Posted by Hell_Copter on Oct-08-2002 14:18:

Orion - See Me Here (Original Mix)
is the best epic track ever!!


Posted by Porky on Oct-08-2002 17:06:

Sneaker Pimp foxspeak!

quote:
Originally posted by TranceSeeker


OMG.....
I faint...


omg i crY!

Foxspeak! it's everywhere! Run for your lives!!!! ayayayayayay!

PorK

*i spY foX!*


Posted by Hell_Copter on Oct-08-2002 18:45:

Re: foxspeak!

quote:
Originally posted by DevanteS


omg i crY!

Foxspeak! it's everywhere! Run for your lives!!!! ayayayayayay!

PorK

*i spY foX!*


lol.....
fox speak


Posted by dhaz on Oct-08-2002 21:58:

my 2c....


When Epic is mentioned I always think back to older BT productions, and such. Kinda 'epic' in length and intricate production methods. As this can be used relatively interchangeably with most new stuff, i liken it to James Holden's 'trancier' stuff (Horizons, i guess) and Oliver Leib.


Posted by Cobalt on Oct-09-2002 00:28:

I define epic trance by sweeping synths and complicated chords, resulting in a spacey, euphoric sound. Tracks I would consider epic trance:

Rank 1 - Airwave
Solar Stone - Seven Cities (specifically the AvB mix)
Orinoko - Island (Thrillseekers mix)
Plastic Boy - Silverbath
Alibi - Eternity
Hemstock and Jennings - Arctic and Crimson Soil
Gouryella - Ligaya, ect.
Tillman And Reis - Bassfly (Michael Woods Remix)

and so on...


Posted by mavo on Oct-09-2002 01:58:

warrior - drama IMO


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