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What is this effect called?

Apologies for the extremely novice question,

In SHM's Don't You Worry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y6smkh6c-0

At 0:35, the bass shifts to completely change the tone of the track, what is this effect official known as, is it simply a pitch bend or a bass drop?

I've been working with Nexus and fiddling around with DAW functionality, but I can't get a good recreation of this sound which would be ideal for my current track.

Any pointers would be much appreciated.

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Im pretty sure they made that track at least, you can tell it has absolutely no feeling, fake as shit contrived bs. Its amazing how people buy into that shit, its so forced and rigid.

Tapestop is the new sidechain.

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Originally posted by MSZ Tapestop is the new sidechain.

Yeah, like two years ago it was. I'm not sure they made it - from what i hear, everything they did over the last few years was bought and paid for as part of the marketing machine etc.

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Originally posted by MSZ Im pretty sure they made that track at least, you can tell it has absolutely no feeling, fake as shit contrived bs. Its amazing how people buy into that shit, its so forced and rigid.

A DJ I saw a couple months ago, his entire set was basically:
- 14 seconds of overly sidechained electro house
- TAPE STOP!
- 14 more seconds
- Reverberated snare!
- 7 awkward seconds of some dubsteppy crap
- TAPE STOP!
Why did he do that??

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Originally posted by MSZ )

Perfect, cheers buddy.

Excellent effect.

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Originally posted by kosmotika A DJ I saw a couple months ago, his entire set was basically: - 14 seconds of overly sidechained electro house - TAPE STOP! - 14 more seconds - Reverberated snare! - 7 awkward seconds of some dubsteppy crap - TAPE STOP! Why did he do that??

Was it ingrosso? amirite?

That is flow of a 2 hour SHM club set, as they are "fucking this club in the pussy" (that's actually a real quite from them when asked in an interview what they were going to play that night in Vegas).

that guy keeps mentioning sidechaining. Side chaining and the overuse was a thing 8 years ago. You sound like some muppet that read a magazine. You make dance music, side chaining. wether you do it via traditional side chain or envelopes is probably your most useful tool.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Was it ingrosso? amirite? That is flow of a 2 hour SHM club set, as they are "fucking this club in the pussy" (that's actually a real quite from them when asked in an interview what they were going to play that night in Vegas).

Nah, it was some guy called Matthew Bentley, I think just a local fella...but that's probably the stupidest thing I've heard for a good while. Almost as cringy as the time I heard Cher Lloyd's "Swagger Jagger" described as having a trance beat...oddly enough, that song was produced by SHM.

You don't seem to understand the concept here. SHM don't produce anything. They haven't for a long time - it's all ghost studio monkeys with NDA's, so the brothers odorous can fist pump in front of the decks at the Hard Rock cafe.


....but something is amiss here - I'm starting to get the idea you're not who you say you are. No American has ever heard of Cher Lloyd (I'm English and had to google it), let alone someone living in Minneapolis, so I think you've just given yourself away.

And Richmeister is right; sidechain is such an old subject it's not even worth mentioning. We finished going through the sidechain complaint phase maybe 5 years ago, and the tape stop is hardly news - SHM are to dance music what Jay Leno is to jokes - by them time it gets to them everyone else has already left the venue.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN You don't seem to understand the concept here. SHM don't produce anything. They haven't for a long time - it's all ghost studio monkeys with NDA's, so the brothers odorous can fist pump in front of the decks at the Hard Rock cafe. ....but something is amiss here - I'm starting to get the idea you're not who you say you are. No American has ever heard of Cher Lloyd (I'm English and had to google it), let alone someone living in Minneapolis, so I think you've just given yourself away. And Richmeister is right; sidechain is such an old subject it's not even worth mentioning. We finished going through the sidechain complaint phase maybe 5 years ago, and the tape stop is hardly news - SHM are to dance music what Jay Leno is to jokes - by them time it gets to them everyone else has already left the venue.

Nah mate, Cher Lloyd is popular enough to be heard of in the us...she performed with Taylor Swift at some point. I forget where I first heard of her though.
I know next to nothing about SHM though, just that they're another overhyped mainstream electro-house act.

I live in LA, and somewhat quite involved in the music industry and have never heard her mentioned.

And you used "mate". Dead giveaway

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Originally posted by DJ RANN I live in LA, and somewhat quite involved in the music industry and have never heard her mentioned. And you used "mate". Dead giveaway

Ahh well ever since I was very young I've been watching shows from the UK so I assume I've picked up a few customs from that.
I was born and bred in the morally ambiguous USA though!

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Originally posted by DJ RANN I live in LA, and somewhat quite involved in the music industry and have never heard her mentioned. And you used "mate". Dead giveaway

come on dude,

this track was shit hot

Original Video - More videos at TinyPic

Wow. I don't know where begin.

So much talent, wasted on such bad taste.

Don't get me wrong, I love some gay/camp music, but that track (if I can even call it that) is 4 minutes of my life I will never get back.

It's so sad to me when us Brits try to American culture ripoffs, and do it in such a bad way. Lo-rent Katy Perry and so awkward on camera. "let's film it in a diner!". That's original. It's funny for me to be a Brit in LA and see how my peeps are just desperate for American culture, yet we get a lot of love over here for being different.

The only redeeming quality of your vid comes from getting to see what your O face looks like (a groupie girl I knew told me drummers always pull the same face on a drum fill. Seems she wasn't bullshitting).

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney come on dude, this track was shit hot Original Video - More videos at TinyPic

The song is bad enough, but that dude's timing is pretty horrendous. He rushes everything like a 14-yo boy jerking it to his first copy of Playboy. I can't believe that a self-proclaimed worshipper of groove like yourself would think that this guy has chops. C'mon man!

I get that you have this idea that you understand groove but shit dude, other than like a few fuck ups were I try to do things I can't, my timing and groove is how you in le pocket.i managed to do a Bernard shuffle type thing. In the middle. I'm better than most people that say they are drummers

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Wow. I don't know where begin. So much talent, wasted on such bad taste. Don't get me wrong, I love some gay/camp music, but that track (if I can even call it that) is 4 minutes of my life I will never get back. It's so sad to me when us Brits try to American culture ripoffs, and do it in such a bad way. Lo-rent Katy Perry and so awkward on camera. "let's film it in a diner!". That's original. It's funny for me to be a Brit in LA and see how my peeps are just desperate for American culture, yet we get a lot of love over here for being different. The only redeeming quality of your vid comes from getting to see what your O face looks like (a groupie girl I knew told me drummers always pull the same face on a drum fill. Seems she wasn't bullshitting).

The groove is great in that track. Anyone else with credibility and you would like it. I know nothing about the bitch but that drum and bass groove at the beginning are nasty.

Pdiddy, bad boy for life. Another example . I mean that groove is well, any drummer or black bass player ie not cryogenic who says he plays bass but enjoys catatonic bitch trance. The guitar/bass are pulling on the groove but It sounds great.

And this is me fuckjn about after the pub. This is not what I would say a display of my talent. Ii mean it seems that way but you have to remember I'm really really really good at music. This is just piano without notes, the only reason I stopped the playing and focused on composition was that I couldn't do it without drugs.

Don't you worry is actually based off of this song. And I find it way more groovy. http://youtu.be/CmkA4DqUUHU

see this is the fucking problem

you have quantized drums with no syncopation and you call it groovy. Honestly, i don't why people have such a hard time. Listen to say 70s funk, then daft punks new album. one of them grooves one of them doesnt/

i'm pretty sure like hearing pitches, it is something you just acquire rafter years of exposure. And if you only listen to EDM , or listen to a lot of it, you lose it. Thank god i didn't start listening to machine music till i was 18. Its the one thing that is so fucking endemic with most producers. They don't understand because they can't hear.

Your right there's no spontaneity or blood sweat and tears in the record compared to something that a black 70s bass guatirist would come up with ,and you can say that about 90 percent of modern dance music specially on bp. but i just find it interesting how shm took this innocent soccer mom pop song and turned it into this big room hit , and I actually prefer the former.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney The groove is great in that track.

I don't think that track has the same effect on other people in terms of groove. It's bland forumlaic pop. Sure, it's a little bit of an ear bug, but that doesn't mean it's got groove.

These are commercial tracks with good groove on the perc:

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney Anyone else with credibility and you would like it. I know nothing about the bitch but that drum and bass groove at the beginning are nasty.

No, I wouldn't. It's a shit song and there's little to no groove as such. A few lines of good drum programming at the beginning does not a great track make and it doesn't help the rest of the track

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney Pdiddy, bad boy for life. Another example . I mean that groove is well, any drummer or black bass player ie not cryogenic who says he plays bass but enjoys catatonic bitch trance. The guitar/bass are pulling on the groove but It sounds great.

Truly terrible example. In fact, it's one of the best examples of Faux Groove I can think of. The producer did the mind numbingly obvious gimmick of staggering those bass stabs to fall outside of the down beat. Diddy as rapper (if you can call him that) has awful natural rhythm. Watch that dude dance, you'll see what I mean.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney And this is me fuckjn about after the pub. This is not what I would say a display of my talent. Ii mean it seems that way but you have to remember I'm really really really good at music. This is just piano without notes, the only reason I stopped the playing and focused on composition was that I couldn't do it without drugs.

your chops aren't in doubt whatsoever; I can see what you're doing and the fills, especially towards the end are really tight and interesting. The criticism (aside from the consistency of what you're choosing to do which in fairness can't be blamed if it's after a night at the pub) is the track you chose to play along with and thinking it has groove.

In the grand scheme of all the music available out there, even if you were having a really camp moment once you got home, because the barman at the pub gave you the horn, to pick that song is just frankly inexcusable, lot alone film yourself and share it online. I mean show us some mercy and up a video of you pranking child cancer patients or something.

except i think given that i can play 4 instruments at well drums is my worse, and that i have about 20 years of playing on you , that perhaps you are the one that doesn't hear properly.


as far as your videos,
the first video, only because of the syncopation, but it is missing what musicians would say in the pocket. Its not. And that is something you won't hear. Most musicians don't hear it or understand it.
the second one, not even close.

The thing you don't get is that there is no style of music i don't know. So sure , you mentioned pop, and i had a recording of me. Thats pop. And yes i like that track, but if that is all i liked, sure , i would be worried, but i could list an infallible list of music i know people consider infallible which I also know but that is just lame.

Tell you what,

if you can sing something that is groovy, just sing it, then you understand what groove is. Sing a 2 bar drum beat. If you can't do that, you haven't internalized it.

from the same night



I think given the fact i can actually play what is groovy, and talk about groove in concrete terms which i have done before but i ain't going to now , i just don't think you have anything to add other than your tastes. You hate those tracks. Fair enough.

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