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Help with my recorded set

Well, thing is I've recorded a cd and it wasn't until it ended that I realised something happened to the sound after half the set. This didn't take place in the monitor speakers but it was on the computer, it appears as though the volume after then (I think it was caused by the signal from my mobile) just went overloaded..like the amplitude was turned all the way up. Sad thing is I think that was the best set I've mixed. Is there a way i can have the voume throughout the cd to be equally loud? If so, how? I've just downloaded soundforge and tried to mess around wit hit but i didn't get very far. If anyone know how this can be achieved please help...I really don't want to re-record it again my exam is so near...
Thanks.

Did you try the "normalise" function in Sound forge. I don't know if this will do the ob though. How bad is the volume difference?

Your best option is probably to just redo the mix though if it's off the charts

u need summat like a wave sequence editor, try audio mixer from www.acoustica.com because u can fiddle with the volume all over the shop

I've tried all I possibly could... normalize, decreasing volume etc etc but it didn't get better... i think the sounds been permanently damaged. I really hate recording a mix...really frustrates me

Try this program

Maybee you can try Cooledit Pro
But im afraid if you record it to loud it will be decrased and the
bad sound will be the same.. u better try again

even if you did get it to the same volume, it will sound overloaded

AAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHH that used to happen to me

check your sound cards drivers...sometimes it can interfere with ur sound forge settings

i suggest recording to minidisc and then into ur computer...that way if your computer goes hay wire you'll still have a solid copy on minidisc

If the original souce was being overloaded, then there is nothing that you can do to the recording to make it sound like the original source should. You'll have to re-record the set. Sorry dude!

Ok.
I've re-recorded my set again using Feurio. I've used Soundforge to normalize the cd as well. The problem now is I can't get tracks to be separated on soundforge. I can't use 'Save' Function as well as i'm using demo version. I just want to burn it straight on to CD. Any help?

If you use the demo version maybee you'll need a crack ( look at cracks.am ) .. but why did you normalise with soundforge? I always use cdex ( download at www.download.com ) it free and i find it ok. Then you van use feurio to make seperate tracks and burn it with feurio. When it's done please put the mix online so we can listen to it.. good luck

cue list

is it one big track and you have to cut it into different tracks? if so just make a cue file on sndfrg

Instead of getting a crack, why don't you pay the $40 and support the makers of this great program. It is well worth the money, I bought it and am very happy with it. Also, I perfer not to use soundforge to burn my cds, I use NERO which, is decent at tracking sets. You should save your original as one big wave file and then use a cue file or equivalent to track it.

For some reason my cd writer isn't being detected in any programs other than soundforge. I'd install the thing again but the software cd wouldn't work. I can't use soundforge too guess i'm not smart enough. What do i do!?!

Buy a new Cd Writer

Maybee you need 2 download the new software for the cd writer!
What kind of writer is it?

I find it very strange that the writer isnt seen in any program.

The problem most likley is Digital!!!!!!!!!

You can try the normalizing feature all you want but thats not the problem.

The output is too HIGH!! It produces a Crakle and/or pop known in the industry as digital farts. This was a major problem in the beginning with digital recording.

Solution????
Record thru a HiFi VCR first. Ever heard of DDD or ADD or AAD?? This is the order of wich the product is made. D= digital A=anolouge.
The VCR with vinyl would be AAD your going ADD. Analog is more forgiving in peaks when talking about distortion. Try it, I have told this to so many people and everyone of them have fixed this.

What board are you using???

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Originally posted by dj phu The problem most likley is Digital!!!!!!!!! You can try the normalizing feature all you want but thats not the problem. The output is too HIGH!! It produces a Crakle and/or pop known in the industry as digital farts. This was a major problem in the beginning with digital recording. Solution???? Record thru a HiFi VCR first. Ever heard of DDD or ADD or AAD?? This is the order of wich the product is made. D= digital A=anolouge. The VCR with vinyl would be AAD your going ADD. Analog is more forgiving in peaks when talking about distortion. Try it, I have told this to so many people and everyone of them have fixed this. What board are you using???

No offense man, but this is probably the stupidest idea that I've heard of in a long time. Again, I don't mean to bash you. Recording through a VCR is not only cumbersome, but it will kill the quality quite a bit. You want to channel things through as few sources as possible in order to retain the original quality.

As far as the problem being "digital" I don't know what you mean by that. If the original source is analog (ie turntables) and it is being overloaded then the problem is the fact that the source is being amplified too high. An analog signal that is amplified is still analog unless it goes through a ADC (analog to digital coverter) first. Unless you have a digital output that you are using on your mixer, then the source stays analog until it gets converted to digital in the recording on your computer.

You miss the point man. Recording through the VCR I agree 100%, is a pain in the Ass! BUT it works deadly. It preserves the analog "sound" and will give you a master tape. The HiFi VCR sounds awesome dude, much better than a cassette, don't confuse the two. It is alot more forgiving when the levels are too high.

As for an adc?? What do you think happens when you record it to your computer?? It Goes from an analog signal and is converted to a Digital signal.I have Never heard of a analog Drive since the Commodore Vic 20.

Don't diss analog sound. It is much more "musical" and warmer in my opinion. Now this is a separate topic on its own.

As for recording thru as little sources as possible?? Huh? You are suggesting that I get rid of my Lexicon MPX-1, Eventide H3000se, DBX 586??

Unless you have tried it, don't diss it. It works man



Have you ever tried it?

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Originally posted by dj phu You miss the point man. Recording through the VCR I agree 100%, is a pain in the Ass! BUT it works deadly. It preserves the analog "sound" and will give you a master tape. The HiFi VCR sounds awesome dude, much better than a cassette, don't confuse the two. It is alot more forgiving when the levels are too high. As for an adc?? What do you think happens when you record it to your computer?? It Goes from an analog signal and is converted to a Digital signal.I have Never heard of a analog Drive since the Commodore Vic 20. Don't diss analog sound. It is much more "musical" and warmer in my opinion. Now this is a separate topic on its own. As for recording thru as little sources as possible?? Huh? You are suggesting that I get rid of my Lexicon MPX-1, Eventide H3000se, DBX 586?? Unless you have tried it, don't diss it. It works man Have you ever tried it?

wow, how to respond to this one. First off, you totally changed the conversation around from recording through a $100 crappy VCR to recording it through $4,500 worth of HIFI DSP equipment. It blows my mind that you can even compare the two. I don't have any clue why you are channeling your original source through two processors that do essentially the same thing after you send it through a preamp has got me. Fine, you send it through a preamp, and okay, you send it through one effects processor (though I still don't know why you wouldn't do this after your set was recorded instead of before). Why put up with all the trouble? I have my eq plugged directly into the line in on my soundcard and it sounds great. Then if I so wish, I can use an aftermarket compressor to master it. I spent about $300 for a good soundcard and decent compressor. You spent at least $4500 on eq that is great quality, but very unnecessary for what you are doing.

As I've repeated in too many posts, the only benifit that analog has over digital is dynamic range, which is lost after the first few playing of a record. This can also be overcome by not compressing the digital recording as much as professional recording studios do.

As far as an ADC, almost all methods of recording do utilize an ADC--even professional studios (at least if the source is originally analog, ie live or records. They record onto digital tape (DAT=digital audio tape) and so if the original source is analog, then yes it gets processed through an ADC, though it also records at 48kHz insteas of 44.1kHz, so the quality and dynamic range is still retained in the recording because it's much better than a cd's quality. You can easly do this on your computer too with the right software--soundforge will do it. Therefore your limiting factor is not the digital recording, it is the original source, which is what you want because it's the only thing that you can't change!

Therefore by passing it through all of the preamps and signal processors you have before the original recording, you are mutilating the original recording (though only oh so slightly with hi-end eq) and spending an ungodly amount of money while doing so. Unless you actually master audio recordings, then there is no good reason to own that eq other than you're rich and can afford it. And if you do master audio, then you should also own a DAT and record straight onto that and use the DSP after you record it so that you can always go back and modify it afterwards, not while you record it.

Some other points to think on--if analog is so great, then why do you think that all of the new cds on the market are recorded DDD instead of AAD? Also, of course a HiFi recording is going to sound better than cassette, but who the fuck uses cassette anymore for professional recording? Are you stuck in the 80's?

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