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Tiesto: Why he left trance

He sounds like such a boob

Re: Tiesto: Why he left trance

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Originally posted by Sbliss22 He sounds like such a boob

+1

so, here you are agreeing with that Tiesto comment.
How does that square with what you just wrote on the GAIA post?

unless you're trolling of course, makes total sense then.

But seriously, you kind of have to agree with what he says, cause its the sad truth.

It's basically the definition of selling out that he's giving here, cause that's what selling out is

Nice spin by calling that "relevance", lol.

In terms of the analysis, you kind of have to wonder, if trance is yesterday, and house is today, how come house has been around at least as long, ditto techno (in the current US usage)

But, say what you will about him, he's honest.
"doesn't think he can still do vinyl"

Mr 138+ himself prob. would have said:
what do you mean leaft trance, I didn't leave trance!
I've advanced it, but I didn't leave it.

FAZZZHHHERRR

I guess being a 'godfather' of trance wasn't good enough for him. What an ass. Such a waste of talent. I guess money speaks louder than passion. Congrats on being besties with Martin Garrix, though. That's pretty good compensation for your dignity.

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Originally posted by Sedna I guess being a 'godfather' of trance wasn't good enough for him. What an ass. Such a waste of talent. I guess money speaks louder than passion. Congrats on being besties with Martin Garrix, though. That's pretty good compensation for your dignity.

he is just trolling and following the trends
look at him now dipping into the deep house scene here and there
a few years from now when this whole yolo pop trouse electro stuff blows over he will jump on the next trend

he is more of a brand and businessman more than anything these days
now for some nostalgia

Exactly, brand and businessman. Sucks for the music lover, but hey I get it.

Fuck he's looking rough, lol.

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Originally posted by OrangestO Fuck he's looking rough, lol.

You would too with his schedule.

While I 100% understand where he is coming from I do agree that he comes off as a bit of an ass here.

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Originally posted by AY STAR he is just trolling and following the trends look at him now dipping into the deep house scene here and there a few years from now when this whole yolo pop trouse electro stuff blows over he will jump on the next trend he is more of a brand and businessman more than anything these days now for some nostalgia

Agreed. Can't wait til this elecbro/brostep/trouse/fist pump trend moves on.

And good nostalgic share. I miss that era.

Here is another of his with a very ISOS 2 feel to it.

http://youtu.be/A7cupDNfccU

DJ Tiesto First Essential Mix Live At BBC Radio 1, 09.09.2001.

Hooligan - Hear You Now [white label]
Planet Funk - Inside All The People (Deep Dish Instrumental Mix) [Virgin]
Marc Kelso - Half Lit Wood [white label]
X-Press 2 - Smoke Machine [Skint]
Cass & Slide - Glad I Ate Her [Fire]
iio - Rapture [MOS]
Solicitous - Furthermost [Warner]
Chiller Twist - Strings Unlimited [white label]
Infennal Machine - Realistic [white label]
Tiesto & Junkie XL - Obsession [Black Hole]
Midfield General - Coatnoise (Dave Clarke Mix) [Skint]
DJ Tiesto - Lethal Industry [white label]
Binary Finary - Niterider (Ca-Los Tribal Mix) [Five AM]
Windsider - Hidden Flight [white label]
DJ Tiesto - Flight 643 [VC Recordings]
Katana - Fancy Fair [white label]
Toneking - Pneu (Housetrap Mix) [white label]
Wheed Baskin - Castle Rock [white label]
DJ Tiesto - Urban Train [VC Recordings]
Ivan - Redseal [Intensive]
Max Grathan - Sepia [white label]

Its the evolution of this type of music. While electronic music is/was huge in Europe now it is center stage in America which took a while so it is rooting out into all these different sounds which some originate from Trance sound. By the pattern shown from the last Ultra event EDM music is moving towards hard-style / hardcore in America which is huuuugee in europe! the dutch DJs will eventually work this in their sets.



Scoooooterrr!!!!!

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Originally posted by martinezequiel Scoooooterrr!!!!!

Indeed, and that would be cool.

But it's too weird, in the past, you could make a case that anything that was a trend in the US would hit Europe with a lag of a decade or so.
Current example is weed, here we're on the cool-down path, over there, it's still the devil's weed, and all you hear from NL is an attempt to dial their decrim. back, rather than turning decrim into legalization.

But with this music?

Scooter's been around for so long, most of the kids we're talking about in this thread were't dry when they started (imo, their heyday was more like 15+ years ago).
Not that they're not doing well now (and they've sold 25+ million albums...), yet here, even with people who know dance music, it's more like, who dat?

They're so unknown, that Hans Peter can walk through EZoo like any other fan, pretty much unmugged, let alone being on the mainstage for an evening spot.
Unmugged, except for that cool photo SebG snagged with him in '12.
(stil jealous, lol)

If they ever do make it here, hope they do a lot of that pre Wicked 160 and up stuff.

now, what to make of their current official web adr:
scootertechno.com

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Originally posted by martinezequiel Its the evolution of this type of music. While electronic music is/was huge in Europe now it is center stage in America which took a while so it is rooting out into all these different sounds which some originate from Trance sound. By the pattern shown from the last Ultra event EDM music is moving towards hard-style / hardcore in America which is huuuugee in europe! the dutch DJs will eventually work this in their sets. Scoooooterrr!!!!!

I had no idea Scoooter went hardstyle.


I started listening to him in 1994 with

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Originally posted by CarS Indeed, and that would be cool. But it's too weird, in the past, you could make a case that anything that was a trend in the US would hit Europe with a lag of a decade or so. Current example is weed, here we're on the cool-down path, over there, it's still the devil's weed, and all you hear from NL is an attempt to dial their decrim. back, rather than turning decrim into legalization. But with this music? Scooter's been around for so long, most of the kids we're talking about in this thread were't dry when they started (imo, their heyday was more like 15+ years ago). Not that they're not doing well now (and they've sold 25+ million albums...), yet here, even with people who know dance music, it's more like, who dat? They're so unknown, that Hans Peter can walk through EZoo like any other fan, pretty much unmugged, let alone being on the mainstage for an evening spot. Unmugged, except for that cool photo SebG snagged with him in '12. (stil jealous, lol) If they ever do make it here, hope they do a lot of that pre Wicked 160 and up stuff. now, what to make of their current official web adr: scootertechno.com

I lost my shit when i saw him + others. I wasnt sure if this was happening or not.

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Originally posted by CarS unless you're trolling of course, makes total sense then.

50/50... just picking out the haters....lol..

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Originally posted by CarS Mr 138+ himself prob. would have said: what do you mean left trance, I didn't leave trance! I've advanced it, but I didn't leave it.

you're asking for the trolling...lol...

here's what i think if it really matters to you... which it prob doesn't

I think tiesto just turned the passion into lots of $$$ and has a good time doing it creating music that he likes which brings in the lots of $$$$... if he would've stayed on his previous path with trance, I don't think he would've been as big as he is now...

as for the Mr. 138 lol... he prob would say all that lol... to me its all about enjoying the music... it all depends on my mood.. and my selection of music is based on that... like right now I am listening to Matt Darey's nocturnal 450... excellent for sitting in front of the computer and staring at a spreadsheet at 8:45 am... over the weekend I also listened to Deadmau5 as well as A & B and Andy Moor... so there.. but that's from the listener's perspective...

but for the DJs, the reality, is like this guy says



IT'S ALL ABOUT THE $$$$$

well the feedback from Armin Only was as expected.

You can pretty much read any of the negative comments about what that event would be like, posted starting last year, and it was rather predictive:

crowd (good material got the deer-in-headlight stare)
security
music played (promised an hour of classic stuff that never happened)
and so on.

not hard to know this either.

so people I heard from, "now know better"

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Originally posted by CarS well the feedback from Armin Only was as expected. You can pretty much read any of the negative comments about what that event would be like, posted starting last year, and it was rather predictive: crowd (good material got the deer-in-headlight stare) security music played (promised an hour of classic stuff that never happened) and so on. not hard to know this either. so people I heard from, "now know better"

i wouldn't be surprised that the show sucked... i trolled one of my friends if he played eat, sleep, rave, repeat and ping pong, and she's like hell yeah... i was like: "I'm so sorry"... those are 2 of the cheesiest tracks i've heard lately from him... lol

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Originally posted by Serial Killer i wouldn't be surprised that the show sucked... i trolled one of my friends if he played eat, sleep, rave, repeat and ping pong, and she's like hell yeah... i was like: "I'm so sorry"... those are 2 of the cheesiest tracks i've heard lately from him... lol

He played that shit at armin only?

just sad

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Originally posted by lollerskates He played that shit at armin only? just sad

heard the only real melodic trance track he played that night was communication
everything else was all his new style off of his intense album
also in other cities he does a "classics vinyl hour"
didnt happen in nyc

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Originally posted by AY STAR heard the only real melodic trance track he played that night was communication everything else was all his new style off of his intense album also in other cities he does a "classics vinyl hour" didnt happen in nyc

He legit played a "trance" remix of animals.....

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Originally posted by viperx29 He legit played a "trance" remix of animals.....

lol this i have to hear

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Originally posted by AY STAR lol this i have to hear

yeah there is a bootleg version of that crap..

Found it!

I was like dear god help us all lmao

My buddy works for MSG and was able to hook a few of us up with tickets to the Armin show for free. Everything that has been said is spot on. Though the production level was top notch the music itself was pretty piss poor. Communication was the only real gem I can recall him playing. I had looked online and it seemed as though he had set up previous shows with two hours of progressive stuff, 2 hours of his album and then 2 hours of classic vinyl.. Well I can tell you that classic vinyl never happened; in fact it couldnt have been farther from what he played towards the end. The last hour plus was all slow vocal crap. With that said the youngins in the crowd were eating it up. How, is besides me

Yea, I just keep sighing every time I see a billboard poster of this event (some of them are still up, since this was just last weekend) lamenting how excited I used to get when AvB came to town.

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Originally posted by AY STAR he is just trolling and following the trends look at him now dipping into the deep house scene here and there a few years from now when this whole yolo pop trouse electro stuff blows over he will jump on the next trend he is more of a brand and businessman more than anything these days now for some nostalgia

And really wishing this whole yolo/pop/trouse/electro axis of blah blows over sooner rather than later. Just seems like the good old days ended so soon, when along came all of this fluff. I was always hoping for EDM to catch on in the US, on the level it did in Europe, but not in this way. Like someone else said, hardstyle is another genre catching on here, and while I like hardstyle myself (vs trouse and electro), kind of getting tired of it, lol, at least hearing it all of the time (at raves, for example; the alternative, usually, being not even classic trance, but trouse, like in the current trance scene) I want real trance to return by the end of the decade (since the trouse and electro genre dominance might be a decade-wide trend)if not sooner. Would not mind seeing a balanced US party culture, between trance and hardstyle parties, where hardstyle's pouplarity does not eclipse trance, nor vice versa.I know it does not work that way, just an idea, that's all.

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