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Posted by inatrance on Oct-13-2002 04:39:

Post here if you want a Politics Forum

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...&threadid=68472

Please post here if you would like a politics forum

//edit: we are debating not just a political forum, but a 'serious forum' in general, including religon, psychology, etc.... the final forum will not be soley political based but all other topics, which are relative in their serious nature

Some of the pro's and cons are suggested in the above thread

please post your opinion in this thread as well.

It will clean up and centralize from the COR, while at the same time making the discussions on politics much in depth and mature.. because people will be visiting the forum only if they seriously want to debate the topics, instead of browsing COR, and just 'popping in'

thanks

List of Supporters:

#1 inatrance

//edit.. hehehe I am the official rallier for forums :P

Posted by arturob on Oct-13-2002 04:46:

oh fuck sake. not another forum request thread.

*runs into the wall*

Posted by Trance-Canada on Oct-13-2002 04:50:

actually i want one, I'd never post in it, but it would keep that ummmm what shall I call it I'll be nice "sutff" outta this forum.

Posted by Lira on Oct-13-2002 04:52:

#2) Maaz

Posted by venomX on Oct-13-2002 05:06:

sounds interesting count me in

Posted by inatrance on Oct-13-2002 05:08:

quote:
Originally posted by venomX
sounds interesting count me in

#1 inatrance
#2 Maaz
#3 venomX

hehe we R growing :P

Posted by Vanilla on Oct-13-2002 05:30:

It'd probably turn out to just be a flaming forum seeing as how touchy politics are....so I guess Im for it. Flaming is really funny sometimes.

Posted by inatrance on Oct-13-2002 05:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Starfox
oh fuck sake. not another forum request thread.

*runs into the wall*

you know yhou like it arturo

Posted by Vanilla on Oct-13-2002 05:35:

quote:
Originally posted by inatrance
you know yhou like it arturo

Who doesnt like running into walls?!?!

Posted by AnotherWay83 on Oct-13-2002 05:37:

#4 AnotherWay83

altho i dont mind political threads in the COR that much

Posted by JM on Oct-13-2002 05:58:

what a fukking mess that would become. dont you realize that all matter regarding politics on this forum have ended up one way or another in flaming??? Bush this Arafat that Osama the other.....what what what??? c'mon now, lets leave politics out of here...enough in the chill out room as it is...and leading nowhere most of the time.

>JM<

Posted by zzleeper on Oct-13-2002 06:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Juricimo
what a fukking mess that would become. dont you realize that all matter regarding politics on this forum have ended up one way or another in flaming??? Bush this Arafat that Osama the other.....what what what??? c'mon now, lets leave politics out of here...enough in the chill out room as it is...and leading nowhere most of the time.

>JM<

althought i like to discuss politics, i ll agree with jm, i prefer politics as a part of the chillout..

Posted by Essential1 on Oct-13-2002 07:03:

if people were to debate rather than argue, all these threads would be fine. just wait a lil while longer and see if people mature more. if they don't, then try opening another forum.

personally i like politics threads in here b/c I don't usually post in them but i like to read some of them occasionally. and if i have some input i can post something. if these topics are in a seperate forum, then alot of people like me would not even go there and each thread would consist of 10 replies by the same 2 people.

c'mon, be logical before requesting yet another forum.

Posted by Endre on Oct-13-2002 07:32:

wtf, im on to, not that i like politics or anything...but you sure can piss someone off?...hmmm

#5 Endre

Posted by sothis on Oct-13-2002 08:39:

ive been on a huge local electronic music scene forum for about 3 years now, around 7000 people.

we had this same issue come up. a few people would always post political topics in "off topic discussion", the equivalent of this forum, so it was decided to make a seperate "Activism" (turned into a general politics forum tho) forum. what it turned into, was those same 3-4 people, posting various topics and arguing with each other over and over. then again, thats what happens here too, just with maybe 10 people instead of 4.

after awhile it got axed and now everything clutters up OT again.

my thoughts on it:

on the forum i post in, i dont care either way...

but for TA, i would really prefer there to be a seperate forum for that kinda stuff.. because unlike my forum, this forum always seems to pump out tons of anti american threads, which always turn into flaming and hatred and the more i read it, the more it makes me not want to post. if there was a seperate section, then the people that consistently post this kind of stuff would have somewhere to post it, anyone else interested in joining the bashing could go there to read it and contribute, and chill room could be better off in my opinion.

(bah, now all we need is a "girls" forum so everyone can go post their 25 gigs of naked/half naked girl pictures there instead of 7 threads a day in chill room, and then chill room would really be good... heh)

quote:
and each thread would consist of 10 replies by the same 2 people.

yea, but really, thats what happens here too... there are the same core people that always start them or respond to them, and then the occasional different person.

Posted by Tranex02 on Oct-13-2002 13:48:

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

No way!

Listen, it's impossible for people not to argue on such topics, even politicians do it...
Politics seperates people...... it changes the way people look at eachother, and i believe creates dislike. Not too many people feel happy after having a political discussion.

Infact, i think political threads should be banned from the
TA forums!

That's just my opinion..

Posted by trancaholic on Oct-13-2002 14:16:

I think it is a good idea, but I would like to have it extended to all "deep" topics, such as religion, philosophy and psychology. The huge benefit of such a room would be that the threads don't get pushed off the page by all the other, in my mind, less interesting "i'm drunk"-threads.
Alternatively, we should have a chatroom for "i'm drunk" kind of debate

Posted by inatrance on Oct-13-2002 14:43:

quote:
Originally posted by trancaholic
I think it is a good idea, but I would like to have it extended to all "deep" topics, such as religion, philosophy and psychology. The huge benefit of such a room would be that the threads don't get pushed off the page by all the other, in my mind, less interesting "i'm drunk"-threads.
Alternatively, we should have a chatroom for "i'm drunk" kind of debate

I agree with tranceaholic, a political, religious, philisophical, and psychology forum.. is very appropriate

my comment to all you people who are saying this is a bad idea:

even if there is not a forum for 'serious' topics.. they will be brought up in the chillout room, where tons and tons of people filter through, and if they see a thread titled 'president bush'... guess what... they will most likely just hop in and flame..

but on the other hand, if the forum was its own people would be visiting a forum, with the hopes to see issues such as 'christianity' or 'the war on terror' or 'judaism' ....

I feel that just people making the effort and wanting to visit a 'serious forum' will increase the likely hood of a more intelligent conversation

I honestly see no cons, because I think many, many more idiotic two word posts are done in COR, than any other forum

inatrance

Essential1 please do not tell me I'm being illogical... I'm actually trying to solve an issue... so starting little tidbits of a flame isn't appropriate.. PM me if you have any more comments like that..

Posted by Tranex02 on Oct-13-2002 15:00:

quote:
Originally posted by inatrance
even if there is not a forum for 'serious' topics.. they will be brought up in the chillout room, where tons and tons of people filter through, and if they see a thread titled 'president bush'... guess what... they will most likely just hope in and flame..

yea i guess your right.... political threads are inevitable..

A new forum might be a good idea for those who enjoy such dicussions... personally i just don't like poliitics.... but it's better of in a seperate forum..

Posted by inatrance on Oct-13-2002 15:12:

#1 inatrance
#2 Maaz
#3 venomX
#4 Vanilla
#5 AnotherWay83
#6 Endre
#7 trancaholic

Posted by TranceGiant on Oct-13-2002 15:29:

Posted by inatrance on Oct-13-2002 15:34:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceGiant
Sounds resonable but what would be left of the chill out room? If you take all the intelligent discussions out of it you will have a forum filled with "check out those boobs! " and "do u ever smoke pot and pee in your bed simultanously?" threads. I tink the only serious topic that would remain would be (serious!) sex/love/friendship discussions.

but isnt the COR already like that...?? the two topics... boobs, and religion are so different don't the deserve their own place?>? COR should be a place to chill, have fun, joke around

the political, religious, philisophical, and psychology forum is one to debate, think, and post your ideas....... not to post one liners like ... 'word homey' :P or stupid shit like that

Posted by trancaholic on Oct-13-2002 15:42:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceGiant
Sounds resonable but what would be left of the chill out room? If you take all the intelligent discussions out of it you will have a forum filled with "check out those boobs! " and "do u ever smoke pot and pee in your bed simultanously?" threads. I tink the only serious topic that would remain would be (serious!) sex/love/friendship discussions.

I think you are totally right, but some people obviously enjoy the less deep chat threads, and they would not miss the "serious" discussions.

After all, even if somebody did enjoy both kinds of discussions they could attend both sections. Personally, I would probably stop posting in chill out, but I guess that I wouldn't be missed by those who stayed only there - and I, on the other hand, would gain the opportunity to think it over before posting in a "serious" debate, without having to resurrect some thread on page 3.

Posted by TranceGiant on Oct-13-2002 15:49:

I donno...
Look the "chill out room" like its name indicates should be a place where certain topics are discussed in a relaxed, friendly atmosphere. "Relaxed" doesn't necessarily mean brainless. Additionally the aura of the cill out room, where you know your "opponents" in some more serious debates (like the Iraqi one) through "happier" threads, as well contributes to the civilized and not so hostile conversation. For example, if you and mr. y are having totally different opnions on some political issue and the disparity is getting radical the chances of personal attacks increase. However, if u remember that this guy you're now "fighting" with was the one u laughed with in some "boobs!! " thread you'll think again as u respect the person and therefore are likely to stick to the issue itself rather than the person discussing with you.

Hope you understand me somehow

Posted by trancaholic on Oct-13-2002 16:18:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceGiant
Hope you understand me somehow

I do. I still think, however, that the non-serious and serious discussions need not be in the same forum section for this brotherhood-spirit to take effect.

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