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need some names of non generic sounding synths

Hello about 65% of my soft synths have a generic -mainstream - crossover sound.

I do have a few Subtractive synths that are unique but, most of my Analogue soft synths that utilize analogue Synthesis,sound too generic.

i understand that if you know synthesis you can make any sound but still if your synth is not the right sound



im talking about these sounds if you were going to make the pad or melody what synth wouls you use in these 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JX4Pp51fMU

or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxJLX9pplzg

So what soft synths would you recommend that don't sound generic?

besides Reaktor and Absynth

Camel Audio Alchemy can sound really crazy / non generic. Would highly recommend it if you like Absynth.

Definitely Alchemy - additive, subtractive, granular, and spectral all rolled into one. Others:

- Rob Papen Blue 2 - FM/subtractive and more hybrid synth

- Synthmaster - name a synthesis type, it probably does it

- Any additive synth - Loom, Harmor, Razor

- LinPlug Spectral

- Tone2 Electra 2 (hybrid), Nemesis (FM hybrid), or RayBlaster (IMS)

- DCAM Synth Squad, particularly Cypher and Fusor (modular shell for combining the other DCAM synths)

Or the Daddy

Omnisphere

Aalto
Metasynth
Synplant
Iris
Or just learn bloody Reaktor ffs, user library is a goldmine of non generic instruments, connecting macros is really easy.

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!?

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Originally posted by djnitride Camel Audio Alchemy can sound really crazy / non generic. Would highly recommend it if you like Absynth.

okay will give a try i do like Absynth its always good to add other synths to your arsenal.

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Originally posted by cryophonik Definitely Alchemy - additive, subtractive, granular, and spectral all rolled into one. Others: - Rob Papen Blue 2 - FM/subtractive and more hybrid synth - Synthmaster - name a synthesis type, it probably does it - Any additive synth - Loom, Harmor, Razor - LinPlug Spectral - Tone2 Electra 2 (hybrid), Nemesis (FM hybrid), or RayBlaster (IMS) - DCAM Synth Squad, particularly Cypher and Fusor (modular shell for combining the other DCAM synths)

ly linplus synth

ill give Alchemy a try the only Linplug synth i have is Albino

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Originally posted by crazedonee okay will give a try i do like Absynth its always good to add other synths to your arsenal.

Its like Absynth in that you can really "bend" sounds out of shape with its nearly unlimited modulation and morphing systems. Literally every single parameter allows you to assign 6 different modulation sources... Then comes the multi part morphing system and performance options, it is truly a sonic beast.

It doesn't sound like Absynth's signature character but I think its a better synth in many ways. Its UI is less dated than Absynths as well when you dig into the more advanced functionality where doing the same in Absynth can be frustrating due to the aging design and codebase.

Also they have stuck a bunch of filter types in there, each of four parts can have up to 4 individual filters in sequence or parallel (or a mix of the two with a slider) and then goes through 2 global filters with the same sequence/parallel setup.

Definitely give it a shot

synths1

Uh...

The SYnplant synth




best of luck,

V

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Originally posted by tehlord Or the Daddy Omnisphere

+1, this would be my top recommendation too. omnisphere is a necessity if you want analog sounds that are unique. rompler and waveform samples aside, it's an amazing synth in its own right. its oscillators and filters sound amazing, lots of modulation possibilities, tons of effects. you can make it sound very unique.

also for unique sounds - any synth that has wavetables like the waldorf largo, someone mentioned synthmaster earlier. you can make some great soundscapes with wavetables+modulation.

another idea is to keep using your current synths, resample your sounds and try various effects and layering.

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Originally posted by tehlord Or the Daddy Omnisphere

But, that's just a ROMpler!!!

j/k - yes, Omnisphere definitely belongs on the list. As Dizzy pointed out, its synth side is more than capable, then combine that with sample-mangling synthesis, granular, FM and you're pretty much unstoppable.

Omnisphere is the Daddy.

I just bought it's Grandaddy

Omnisphere sounds a bit dull to me. I like the sound to be raw, dynamic, unprocessed at the source. Omni sounds too dynamically controlled from the source. Yes, that might be good with trillian cause many sounds are ready to be mixed, but I'm obsessed with having total control on each aspect of the audio.

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Originally posted by tehlord Omnisphere is the Daddy. I just bought it's Grandaddy

Atmosphere? A JV? XP? JX?

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Originally posted by TranceElevation Omnisphere sounds a bit dull to me. I like the sound to be raw, dynamic, unprocessed at the source. Omni sounds too dynamically controlled from the source.

It's a synth with more mod sources and destinations than most synths on the market. If you can't figure out how control every aspect of the sound, then you haven't tried hard enough (if at all). I mean, shit, not only are the LFOs and EGs all routable to any destination (or other sources), you've got the Orb, virtually unlimited multi-stage envelopes with random re-generation, random mod source, etc. not to mention waveshaping, FM, granular, the ability to layer two parts per patch into one 8-layer multi, etc etc etc. If you can't figure out how to get what you want out of that, then you've either never used Omnisphere, or were too lazy to look beyond the preset browser.

Exactly, 20 minutes of reverse engineering isn't really what I'm looking for. To each his own.

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Originally posted by TranceElevation Exactly, 20 minutes of reverse engineering isn't really what I'm looking for. To each his own.

Omnisphere is one of the easier synths to learn and program, at least in my experience.

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Originally posted by TranceElevation Exactly, 20 minutes of reverse engineering isn't really what I'm looking for. To each his own.

Why would you need to reverse engineer something to have control over it? If you want to build a patch, start from scratch using an init patch. Or, if you want to alter a preset, open the mod matrix, or right-click on any knob and assign a mod/controller, or click on a drop-down menu, or click one of the clearly labeled buttons or tabs. Omni gives you more ways of accomplishing some of these tasks than any synth I know of. You'd have to be pretty new to software to not be able to figure it out. I'm guessing that, like most people, you've just heard that it's nothing more than a ROMpler/preset player and believed it, but never even looked at it yourself, right?

Here, give this video 19 minutes of your time and maybe you'll start to see how simple, yet very deep, Omnisphere is:



The patch itself is pretty basic and can be made in about 3 minutes time, but my main point was to give an overview of the interface/workflow, particularly when using the synthesis engine (i.e., rather than the 40GB sample library).

Even if you init it still sounds compressed compared to Alchemy for example.

Didn't want to hurt your feelings Cryo.

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Originally posted by TranceElevation Even if you init it still sounds compressed compared to Alchemy for example.

It's a single-cycle waveform. It's not compressed, nor does it sound compressed. And, sound design is about going way beyond the init sound.

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Originally posted by TranceElevation Didn't want to hurt your feelings Cryo.

You need to do better than that. Look, it's obvious that you have no clue about Omnisphere or sound design in general and are just perpetuating what you've heard. People have been doing that ever since Omni was released - I get that. It's an expensive synth, most people on trance forums don't even own it, and therefore are clueless about it. The OP has requested a list of synths that fit a certain category, and Omnisphere certainly fits his needs. The few people in this thread who actually have considerable experience with Omnisphere and sound design in general all agree that it is suitable and have justified it adequately. Your little attempt at insults won't trump that. You can have your opinion, but facts are facts.

I'm trying to think of some powerful synths that have a UI / workflow close to Omnisphere in terms of being idiot proof. I honestly can't think of any.

Omnisphere was my first paid for Synth and I found it to be intuitive and easy to learn. Making good sounding patches was relatively simple without even utilizing all the zooming functionality.

Yes, that's right, zoom. Omni hides much of its more advanced features intentionally behind a Zoom system in order to not overwhelm you with things you may not need. IMO, it's the ultimate synth for a beginner in sound design, which is why I find it somewhat ironic TranceElevation that you just write it off for having to "reverse engineer" it. That's flat out ridiculous.

I guess your considerable experience with Omnisphere didn't get you that far if you're still here among us simple mortals.

Yes, it sounds compressed to me.

At least we agree that Alchemy rocks.

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