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Warmth

What are your methods?

Roll off toppy top ends (digital doesn't compress/saturate them naturally) and dont forget the mid lows.

I like how you went straight to the core of the issue.
I didn't intend opening the analog/digital diatribe although it might be inevitable.

Let's see how it progresses.

Try adding chorus.

Woolly socks.

Yesss, it would filter out the coldness. Hmm what puttin on a Hi Hat it can warm the head without ducking or you might loose track.

soft clipping.

Vacuum tubes. I attach them to everything in my studio.

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Originally posted by cryophonik I attach them to everything in my studio.

I bet you do

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Often it is believed that the pitched sounds (like piano,organ,choir,etc.) for a single note have a frequency, it's actually harmonics and nothing more. Many people try to synthesize a sound using an exact frequency+harmonics and observe that the result sounds too �artificial�. They might try to modify the harmonic content, add a vibrato, tremolo, but even that doesn't sound �warm� enough. The reason is that the natural sounds don't produce an exact periodic; their sounds are quasi-periodic. Please notice that not all quasi-periodic sounds are �warm� or pleasant.

from http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/zynaddsubfx_manual
In the first chapter it has some graphs that illustrate the idea pretty nicely. I realize this is a manual for an opensource synth plugin but their explanations of "warmth" are very helpful.

You mean warmth in a mix?

you create warmth with a careful combination of mixing techniques:

compression
multibandcompression
sidechaining/routing
filters/eq
note selection
sound design
FX/send/return tracks
song arrangement

and some others too...

Analog synths, a la Juno-106.

ooh man

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Originally posted by inversoundzzz You mean warmth in a mix? you create warmth with a careful combination of mixing techniques: compression multibandcompression sidechaining/routing filters/eq note selection sound design FX/send/return tracks song arrangement and some others too...

You're just saying stuff at random.

Pultec

Hmm, I think fairchild. Best compressor for analogue warmth.

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Originally posted by inversoundzzz You mean warmth in a mix? you create warmth with a careful combination of mixing techniques: compression multibandcompression sidechaining/routing filters/eq note selection sound design FX/send/return tracks song arrangement and some others too...

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Originally posted by PaULiN0 Hmm, I think fairchild. Best compressor for analogue warmth.

Try Kush Ubk, that is my favorite compressor for the warm/saturated type of compression and it basically has like 5 different compressors in one. (5 different algorithims/styles)

digital warmth is an oxymoron

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Originally posted by Raphie digital warmth is an oxymoron

Ah one of the infamous excuses to validate hardware purchases by. Yes.

There is a clear difference, but it can be done ITB as well
my tips for warmth:
- don't use additive EQ (> cut elsewhere)
- use reelbus http://www.toneboosters.com/tb-reelbus/
keep your RMS levels sane

IMHO all decapitators, toob emu's, saturators, distressor plugins "analogue" compressors ALL do more harm than good.
The best productions I get in my inbox are the most "clean" ones. Decent levels no crap on top for the sake of it.
often people confuse warmth with a hazy phasey artificial sound.
When talking real analogue warmth, it sounds more like 90ties loudness buttons (fletcher munson) but still very much in focus and real, not phasey plasticcy....
compare your tracks to i.e. Alexander o niell, Luthervandross or S.O.S. band for warmth and you hear what i mean.

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Originally posted by Storyteller Ah one of the infamous excuses to validate hardware purchases by. Yes.

BTW define warm? do you consider your soundcloud tracks warm?

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Originally posted by Raphie There is a clear difference, but it can be done ITB as well

My work here is done.

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Originally posted by Raphie BTW define warm? do you consider your soundcloud tracks warm?

Warmth for me is character imposed on sound by (mostly) the use of eq's/compression with distinct characteristics. Tape carriers could be applicable too (ironically I own a 80's tape recorder but never use it). Whilst I believe my tracks usually have a very round sound to it which is somewhat distinguishable I would not call them warm. Apart from maybe one private snippet.

On the other hand I hear tons of track which I'd consider to be very warm coming from a macbook mid-air in between Amsterdam and New York as well as a lot of music routed through armies of analogue equipment which cost more than I'll make in a lifetime sounding like a flacid penis tapping on slightly melting ice cubes.

It's not the tools which are the problem anymore these days. It's the cook.

your mileage may vary. I'm pretty sure I can put together your stems beyond a level of warmth you ever thought possible.

We can take this to the test if you like, breakdown one of your tracks in 4 or 5 stems and we do a mix off, then we let the guys here decide which one sounds most warm / open and amazing

You can also come you my studio once and you can experience yourself how far you can stretch warmth.

I'm not sure I get your cook kitchen thing, prof cooks do have preferences in kitchens. a nice stream oven get's you very different results than a standard microwave, you get that right?

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