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Posted by Dj Pluviose on Nov-20-2014 08:45:

Why Big Room "House" Music Sucks



some funny stuff in there. includes steve aoki, skrillex, uhh... some other popular artists right now


Posted by Kilixpree on Nov-20-2014 09:02:

the video would be 10000x better if he used dark progressive instead of anthem trance.


Posted by soulstar606 on Nov-20-2014 09:12:

FUCKING AWESOME DROPS LOVE THIS SHIT THANKS FOR POSTING


Posted by Paradox Lost on Nov-20-2014 09:30:

I mostly couldn't tell which samples were supposed to represent which period, as it all sounded just terrible.

quote:
Originally posted by Kilixpree
the video would be 10000x better if he used dark progressive instead of anthem trance.


Which makes the representation of 1999 to 2002 a bit misleading, really. There was plenty of anthem cheese going around, but the prog reaction against it (if it was one) was just as strong.


Posted by kosmotika on Nov-20-2014 12:53:

Good video.


Posted by Johan (DJ Irish) on Nov-20-2014 13:46:

Crappy examples used. Comparing cheese of today with cheese of yesteryear

The vocal trance at the start of the millenium was as much pop music as any of the big time EDM tracks of today


Posted by Lews on Nov-20-2014 13:58:

Great video to show that not everything from the past was amazing.


Posted by Guest on Nov-20-2014 15:13:

^ Lol yeah.

BTW, I'm sure this has been noticed already, but I find the new stuff being used in this video sounds like hardstyle pitched down


Posted by AlphaStarred on Nov-20-2014 17:02:

The main attraction of these modern festivals is the DJ, rather than the music. Idolatry at its finest.


Posted by Sykonee on Nov-20-2014 18:24:

quote:
Originally posted by AlphaStarred
The main attraction of these modern festivals is the BIG FUCKING VISUALS, SPEAKERS, AND LAZ0RZ, rather than the music. Idolatry at its finest.

Fixed.


Posted by AlphaStarred on Nov-20-2014 18:31:

Yeah, that too. Especially the big lights reading "AOKI" and the like. Good stuff.


Posted by Dj Pluviose on Nov-20-2014 18:32:

I think the dude was simply trying to compare the EDM that was most likely prominent and similar to the stuff you hear today as the closest examples to look at.

It would probably be really hard to relate if it was something way more underground like Prog-Psy, darkpsy, ambient, or acid stuff.

Side by side though you could tell that even the cheese of the past was better.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Nov-20-2014 18:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Paradox Lost
I mostly couldn't tell which samples were supposed to represent which period, as it all sounded just terrible.


Ha, same here. No Fate was definitely a false dawn. There's nothing more cringe-worthy than trance berks trying to be snobby about music.


Posted by Lews on Nov-20-2014 21:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Pluviose
Side by side though you could tell that even the cheese of the past was better.


It all sucked, kid.


Posted by kosmotika on Nov-20-2014 22:03:

Smiling Frog

The trance in that vid was far from cheese, it's like everyone forgot about acts like Special D and Tune Up...now that was cheese. What's in the vid is just basic anthem trance from the 99-01 period, not cheese by a longshot. Something being popular or well known doesn't inherently mean it's tasteless or poor in quality...to dismiss a track as tripe just because it got mainstream popularity is hipster bullshit.


Posted by AlphaStarred on Nov-20-2014 22:48:

^ well said, actually. "Bullet In The Gun" sounding the same as Aoki's "drop?" Come on, now.

Don't really care much for the vid; it's all a repetition of the same idea, but that bee flying around that DJ's head was fucking hilarious.


Posted by Dj Pluviose on Nov-20-2014 22:52:

Yeah they're completely different. At least suburban train and sunrise (Tiesto remix) is somewhat credible since it is on dark tremor's list :3

I wonder how that guy is doing nowadays. Speaking of which his list say suburban train is epic trance, not anthem. Is that true?


Posted by Lews on Nov-20-2014 23:01:

Basic anthem trance IS cheese.


Posted by n0bben on Nov-20-2014 23:04:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
There's nothing more cringe-worthy than trance berks trying to be snobby about music.


This.

Anthem Trance = "real EDM"? Give me a break.

Big Room never tried to take itself too seriously, its just party music.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Nov-20-2014 23:14:

Everyone more cheesy than me is a stupid kid, everyone less cheesy than me is a hipster. I alone am in the epicenter of artistic worthiness. All together now: There's a bulleeeeet in the guuuuun...


Posted by Vernon Wanderer on Nov-21-2014 00:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Johan (DJ Irish)
Crappy examples used. Comparing cheese of today with cheese of yesteryear

The vocal trance at the start of the millenium was as much pop music as any of the big time EDM tracks of today



+1000 12/10 would recommend i r8 gr8 m8


Posted by Vernon Wanderer on Nov-21-2014 00:41:

quote:
Originally posted by n0bben
This.

Anthem Trance = "real EDM"? Give me a break.

Big Room never tried to take itself too seriously, its just party music.




Finally someone who gets it.



"B-b-b-b-but trance is not just music its a way of life" - people who actually think that way are far worse in my opinion than young kids going to clubs to jump to a newest Melbourne Bounce track thinking it is the best and most advanced shit ever.


Posted by Mattsanity on Nov-21-2014 00:43:

Bullet In The Gun was friggin amazing. The Saturday mix was just the tip of the iceberg. The RITM and Solar Stone remixes were breathtaking.


Posted by AlphaStarred on Nov-21-2014 01:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Johan (DJ Irish)
Crappy examples used. Comparing cheese of today with cheese of yesteryear

The vocal trance at the start of the millenium was as much pop music as any of the big time EDM tracks of today


That is probably true, but that's why it actually makes for a good comparison. The pop Trance of yesteryear will probably be far more memorable than the pop EDM of today. Maybe not. Maybe it's partly nostalgia, again, and years from now the kids of today will have nostalgia for the Dubstep drop. We'll see.

As for those who can't tell the difference between Bullet In The Gun and the modern "EDM" in the video need to check their ears. One gets you moving, the other gets you a migraine.


Posted by Dj Pluviose on Nov-21-2014 01:52:

The newer people get tired of their music really easily. Avicii already said he's tired of levels and the entire scene is saturated and losing its originality, and some other people like Martin Garrix said he was extremely bored of his radio hit Animals.

Diplo also came out and said the big room house movement is saturated.

So we can at least get an idea of how memory it could be for the masses. The masses will always be looking for the next cool, big hip thing anyway.

Perhaps once they get really bored of their music, they'll dig back into some old school EDM even far before the gateway trance era.


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