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Posted by djshire on Nov-20-2014 15:53:

Why did deep house blow-up so recently?

A couple of months ago, I got tired of listening to the CDs I had in my car (all trance mixes), so I swapped them out for house mixes. Most of the house mixes I have are from OM Records, a deep house label. In a way, listening to those mixes was like visiting an old friend that you had forgotten about, but still loved to hang out with.

So I decided to get more into deep house, and started learning about how to produce deep house (my focus before was uplifting trance)....

...and then learned that EVERY OTHER FUCKING PERSON HAD DONE THE SAME THING. It looks like I just jumped on the bandwagon, instead of having a vested interest in it.

Why did this happen? What caused this "revival" or whatever to happen? Granted, some of what people are calling "deep house" isn't deep house, and it feels like most people are doing this because they got tired of all the big room house.


Posted by rubez on Nov-20-2014 16:02:

it's like a joke or virus.

it just spreads.

but why? maybe because people were crying out for something new?


Posted by Dinoz2013 on Nov-20-2014 16:23:

In the Beginning there was House, Acid House, Break Beat, and its many variations.

Drum n Bass and Jungle was born.

The UK adopted a "2-step" Garage sound. Like Break-Beat Dance music, or slowed down Jungle to make it sound slightly more "commercial/mainstream".This is all about 98-01

Mid 2000's Electro House, and then DUB step as born, and even more slowed down "2-step" sound but more "Electro-Bassy" sounds.

Dub-Step blew up and cooled down. The UK was now using the Dubstep sounds but on an EVEN SLOWER beat. Think like the artist "The Weekend". Heavy deep sounds on a slowed down beat.

Guess what. When you slowed down this "Deep-Step" sound,on a more 4/4 mainstream beat, it begins to sound like

House (If you listened in the early 90's)
OR
DEEP HOUSE (If you consider whats out there now, "House")

IMHO Duke Dumont is the pioneer of getting this Sound popular in the UK, and making it more popular in abroad.

So now We have Deep House, which is essenstially the UK Garage sound constantly being slowed down and made "deeper".

2014 is def the Year of Deep House, both in the Mainstream of EDM and the underground.

Agree/Disagree? Too bad its the Truth


Posted by rubez on Nov-20-2014 16:43:

where does jack fit into all this?


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Nov-20-2014 17:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Dinoz2013
So now We have Deep House, which is essenstially the UK Garage sound constantly being slowed down and made "deeper".


Yeah, the "deep house" so commercially popular here seems to have basically come from UK bass music. The progression essentially seems to be thus:

UK Garage / 2 Step ('90s) becomes dubstep (early '00s) switches back to 4/4 beats and becomes UK funky (late '00s) continues to get warmer, slower and housier and becomes contemporary "deep house" (2012-present).

If you listen to Joy Orbison - HYPH MNGO you can hear the prototype right there. And even further back, Burial's Untrue album can now safely claim to be the most influential electronic record of the last decade, given every track seems to feature those pitch-shifted manipulated vocals it popularised.

I actually don't mind it - it makes a welcome change to have commercially popular dance music that is warm, funky and restrained. There's also been a parallel rise in any number of slower, warmer and groovier house-y offshoots that are all getting labelled "deep house", all of which has rendered the term an incomprehensible cluster-fuck amalgamation of many different sounds, from what Dixon plays to what Sasha plays to what Seth Troxler plays, all labelled as "deep house".


Posted by planetaryplayer on Nov-20-2014 17:30:

they dumbed down deep house and its slowly sounding like EDM (the stuff thats popular around here anyway)


Posted by Woony on Nov-20-2014 18:52:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
UK Garage / 2 Step ('90s) becomes dubstep (early '00s) switches back to 4/4 beats and becomes UK funky (late '00s) continues to get warmer, slower and housier and becomes contemporary "deep house (2012-present).


Honestly, I think you can skip all these steps and go straight from late MJ Cole to Disclosure. It's the same exact thing, just more 4/4 based for the 2014 market.


Posted by Lews on Nov-20-2014 21:39:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I actually don't mind it - it makes a welcome change to have commercially popular dance music that is warm, funky and restrained. There's also been a parallel rise in any number of slower, warmer and groovier house-y offshoots that are all getting labelled "deep house", all of which has rendered the term an incomprehensible cluster-fuck amalgamation of many different sounds, from what Dixon plays to what Sasha plays to what Seth Troxler plays, all labelled as "deep house".


I don't remember the last time I had a bad time going out (because of the music) both back in Seattle nor here in London. It's not always awesome, but even the local DJs at the student bar down the road from me are playing enjoyably warm house with a groove that I can get down to.


Posted by Vernon Wanderer on Nov-21-2014 01:06:

I spent my summer holiday in a seaside town known for being a second most popular party destination for the younger crowd. I was expecting a week of Big Room house, but as soon as I got there and left the bus, there was a local hit playing in the first cafe, it is a track between "deep house" and "future house", which was interesting, I thought it was a one off, but the entire week turned out so good that the only time I heard bigroom was this annual event in the town, for a closing set. And also Panjabi MC played some horrible shit at holi fest. other than that it was a surprisingly sweet week of easy notes and really funky beats. Loved it. But as soon as I returned to the capital the bigroom cancer was back.

These are the tracks that were the most prominent, not necessarily very "deep house", but yeah, far, far better than Animals, blasterjax, showtek, hardwell shit I was expecting. A very pleasant change in the mainstream.










Posted by Floorfiller on Nov-21-2014 04:13:

honestly we have been heading down this path for quite some time. If you go back and read threads from 2009-2010 everyone knew that the deep house trend was coming. it's just very mainstream at the moment.


Posted by miamitranceman on Nov-21-2014 04:38:

Sounds like some of the stuff I listened to about ten years ago, now mainstream. I agree this is preferable to the crap that's been out there the past 4-5 years.


Posted by Syntonic on Nov-21-2014 07:02:

Maybe music in the recent past has caused millenials and DJs ear problems and need EDM that's soft and atmospheric.


I actually don't mind this sound, preferable to mega-drops and clockwork breakdowns but it's still an abomination to the real stuff.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Nov-21-2014 09:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Woony
Honestly, I think you can skip all these steps and go straight from late MJ Cole to Disclosure. It's the same exact thing, just more 4/4 based for the 2014 market.


Yeah, but it went away for most of the '00s, and those are the steps it took on the way.


Posted by montana on Nov-21-2014 14:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
honestly we have been heading down this path for quite some time. If you go back and read threads from 2009-2010 everyone knew that the deep house trend was coming. it's just very mainstream at the moment.


Oh man, Jason do you remember the deep house thread in MD that sprung about after a lot of us jumped ship about ten years ago? I know posted quite a bit in it, but mostly taha/fastmp3, an australian guy and a few others.


Posted by Scoops on Nov-21-2014 14:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Dinoz2013


IMHO Duke Dumont is the pioneer of getting this Sound popular in the UK, and making it more popular in abroad.



that's a bold generalization there

I'm sure Grant Nelson would highly disagree


Posted by Swamper on Nov-21-2014 22:00:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I actually don't mind it - it makes a welcome change to have commercially popular dance music that is warm, funky and restrained. There's also been a parallel rise in any number of slower, warmer and groovier house-y offshoots that are all getting labelled "deep house", all of which has rendered the term an incomprehensible cluster-fuck amalgamation of many different sounds, from what Dixon plays to what Sasha plays to what Seth Troxler plays, all labelled as "deep house".


100%


Posted by Floorfiller on Nov-21-2014 23:45:

quote:
Originally posted by montana
Oh man, Jason do you remember the deep house thread in MD that sprung about after a lot of us jumped ship about ten years ago? I know posted quite a bit in it, but mostly taha/fastmp3, an australian guy and a few others.


You know I don't really remember any particular threads. I just remember the trend building towards what it is today. and of course all the people completely opposed to it or saying that those predicting it were stupid lol.


hell i remember reading an article from computer music like 10 years ago that talked about sampling and kind of jokingly said, "hell, maybe the next big genre to be sampled is country" as if that was completely ridiculous and absurd.

now look at these pop hits by Avicii and others that are doing just that.

crazy to see how things ultimately come to be.


Posted by montana on Nov-22-2014 08:47:

I found the thread I was talking about Jason, http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=203128 Somehow my memory led me to believe that you also contributed to it but there is none. But yeah, this was at the time I was really into Naked Music and a few other labels. One year prior I had started to branch out to other things but mostly house and deep house.


Posted by Floorfiller on Nov-23-2014 09:57:

man that IS a throw back thread lol. 2004 is way before what I was thinking. I was talking more about 2007-2008 as kind of a backlash to minimal etc. Trying to remember back to 2004 and I think I was really big into the prog stuff going on ala prog breaks. Luke Chable, Momu, etc. some good music in that thread though . I remember getting on the buzzin' fly kick as well as some other deeper house sounds like king britt a year or two after that thread, etc.


Posted by djshire on Nov-25-2014 23:44:

As long as we're bitching about house, lets talk about nuhouse. What is nuhouse? Its this


What does that sound like?

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It sounds like early 90s house. But it was made recently, so its nuhouse. How fucking stupid and unnecessary is that? How many sub-genres and sub-sub-genres are we going to fucking make?


Posted by soulstar606 on Nov-27-2014 11:26:

because it's more scalable than trance


Posted by Mr Game+Watch on Nov-27-2014 15:43:

I love that Unicorn song, it's just early 90's house with garage influences, but made in the current day... I just classify that stuff as straight-up house music, anyways.


Posted by Trance-M on Nov-27-2014 20:34:

quote:
Originally posted by djshire
What does that sound like?


Inner City - Good Life


Posted by PoisonJam19 on Nov-29-2014 22:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
If you go back and read threads from 2009-2010 everyone knew that the deep house trend was coming.


Yeah. I think a part of how I got into the sound in general was actually from listening to some of the user-made deep mixes posted here.



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