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Posted by Dj Pluviose on Dec-07-2014 08:50:

Why is it we tend to dig back into older music?

I find that a lot of people who listen to rock, hip hop, classical music, or seldomly electronic music will tend to dig deeper into older music.

People who enjoy rock eventually dig back to the 60s and 70s. Or 80s stone age. Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, Pink Floyd, The Doors, or even older in the 50s with Elvis Presley....

People who listen to hip hop dig back to the 80s and 90s when hip hop was blowing up in the underground scene as well. Tupac, BiGGIe, The Digital Underground, N.W.A., Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, Nas etc....

On the contrary however the average EDM fan does not dig back into 90s electronica. From my own observations it seems like the average EDM fan currently seems to them that EDM is only creating history in these last 4-5 years, or, since 2009.

So my question to you is why do some people tend to dig back into older music in general? It's interesting to see the roots of how music evolved and changed throughout the years, but what is it that makes a lot of people still lean towards older stuff, regardless of the time they were born in?


Posted by planetaryplayer on Dec-07-2014 11:33:

this is a stupid thread


Posted by Vector A on Dec-07-2014 12:36:

If you're really into an art form why wouldn't you be curious about its history? Not caring at all seems more like the exception than the rule. As long as we're speaking about people who see this music as something more than just a forgettable soundtrack to getting trashed...


Posted by meriter on Dec-07-2014 16:38:

Same could be said about the kind of people who only listen to top 40 shit on the radio, you're not really talking about music fans, thats something else entirely. 2 completely different worlds that have no overlap so this thread doesn't really make sense


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Dec-07-2014 17:11:

For some strange reason there has always been some kind of an obsession with new music in the electronic scene. A constant battle of having the newest and most exclusive music to play, regardless of whether it's any good. I don't know why that is.


Posted by Dykes_on_Jay on Dec-07-2014 17:27:

The same reason that we pick our noses and asses; it sort of feels good.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Dec-07-2014 18:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Dykes_on_Jay
The same reason that we pick our noses and asses; it sort of feels good.

And afterwards you're smelly & embarrassed.


Posted by Floorfiller on Dec-07-2014 18:30:

I've personally always been interested into digging into the past for music. i dunno why i have that interest, but i assume it has to do with a couple of things:

1. I am interested in the history of the genre as someone already said. Its interesting to see the music of another generation and think about what was going on at the time.

2. nostalgia is a strong emotion. honestly i find myself revisiting and appreciating music from my youth that i wasn't necessarily apart of, but can feel ties to now. Blink 182 is a perfect example. Such a popular band while i was going through middle school / high school and honestly i never really listened to it because i was so immersed in edm. now if i go back and listen to it i appreciate it a lot more and it pulls me back to that time.

3. elitism. i can't say that a part of the reason i have been a big fan of past music is because i my mind it made me feel a little more "elite" for lack of a better word because i maybe have a deeper understanding than someone with a more superficial view of the genre. i think this is the same reason you see a lot of people dig into older music.


with all of that said, i actually love a lot of the new music of today so i honestly spend a lot of time listening to that. i've kind of grown out of trying to prove something to myself and others by my music choices. now i just enjoy music that makes me feel good.


Posted by montana on Dec-07-2014 19:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller


I agree with all of this.

plus, I would add that for certain people their musical calenders doesn't start until a certain year or so. I remember Shed saying something about this in a RA-feature http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?967 / http://finn-johannsen.de/2008/10/12...avourites-shed/ (extended version of said feature)

quote:
Quartz "Chaos" (Quartz), 1978

This is Quartz from France. It's early synthesizer music, but within a disco context.

I was not into that at all. My calendar does not really start before 1990 or so. Even stuff like early Model 500, Cybotron�It's OK, but it's not mine. I also can't get into Kraftwerk. What has been called techno from 1990 on was what got me to listen to music consciously for the first time. I was never one to check the influences on music that I like. I know disco only from TV, Saturday Night Fever and such. I was never really interested in it.


Posted by AlphaStarred on Dec-07-2014 20:53:

I'm sure many of us dig back not only into music, but into other art forms as well: literature, art, movies, etc. Anyone with any aesthetic sensibilities is likely to do so if he has the time and the curiosity. We're all attracted to novelty as well, and anything old or new that we haven't heard or seen before is novel to us. It's just human nature.

But that also shouldn't discourage anyone from looking forward or appreciating the spirit of the times, at least in certain areas and to a certain degree.


Posted by CalebReturns on Dec-07-2014 23:04:

Most fans of EDM are into it a few years and out for life. Ive been a fan since 99 or so, but I left the scene for a few years because life. I think the reason for the disposable nature of EDM in general is that it lacks lyrics which hold some special meaning to a person. Practically all the vocal trance is, well, forgettable for the most part unless its a mix of a song from a different genre. G&D remixed quite a few Sarah Mclachlan songs which i thought were incredible. Tiesto on the Sun album did a mix of Silence that i still listen to. Otherwise, its hard to develop any deep feelings for synths, or so it seems to me as i look back over my time.


Posted by meriter on Dec-08-2014 03:29:

quote:
Originally posted by CalebReturns
Most fans of EDM are into it a few years and out for life. Ive been a fan since 99 or so, but I left the scene for a few years because life. I think the reason for the disposable nature of EDM in general is that it lacks lyrics which hold some special meaning to a person. Practically all the vocal trance is, well, forgettable for the most part unless its a mix of a song from a different genre. G&D remixed quite a few Sarah Mclachlan songs which i thought were incredible. Tiesto on the Sun album did a mix of Silence that i still listen to. Otherwise, its hard to develop any deep feelings for synths, or so it seems to me as i look back over my time.


there are a lot of classic tunes without vox that stood the test of time but those too would probably be lost on the average EDM listener. I think those kids had a steady diet of adderall growing up, I just don't understand how anyone could be attracted to that shit it's the dumbest music the earth has ever seen


Posted by Zombie0915 on Dec-08-2014 04:11:

Soundcloud/Reddit/Youtube has been full of this late 80's electro sounding stuff lately and I've really been getting into it. I've also stumbled upon a few of the genuine 80's articles as a result. This stuff just comes in cycles I guess.

They haven't settled on a strict genre name for it quite yet, keeps getting labeled outrun, futuresynth, new retrowave and all sorts of stuff. I think people are going back to this sort of style now because it is becoming more relevant to our time, given the economic and political climate we are now living in.

Its fun to dig into older stuff, it gives one a deeper appreciation for the form by knowing its roots.I do think it is important to keep up with new shit and not let those little ******s generation gap you though.


Posted by Frizzle on Dec-08-2014 22:41:

I got into trance 2 years ago, and Im developing a greater appreciation of the 90s-00s trance. I still love the new songs, but the old stuff come in so many unique sounds. Are there any clubs/djs that still play classic trance? I live in Midwest America which has hardly any electronic music playing.


Posted by Mr Game+Watch on Dec-08-2014 23:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
For some strange reason there has always been some kind of an obsession with new music in the electronic scene. A constant battle of having the newest and most exclusive music to play, regardless of whether it's any good. I don't know why that is.


I'd definitely agree that for a long while, 'newness' drove electronic music forward - genres being created left and right and people always dropping what was current for burgeoning trends. But then, the genre-pushing, the technical wizardry, the beats-per-minute, the time signatures, all of these hit their limits and the innovators were forced to look to innovate in the spaces between genres instead of at their limits.

And then after the minimal techno boom and bust, people started to look more to Detroit and Chicago, and the history of house and techno, to mine ideas. Sure, disco sampling has been going on in a long while with house music, but the frequency of releases of 'throwback' sounds and genres has been much greater since the late 2000's.


Posted by kosmotika on Dec-10-2014 18:19:

Because it sounds better, plain and simple. I wasn't listening to trance in the 90s, so no nostalgia factor here. It just sounds better. As far as trance goes, the older stuff is typically genuine, exciting music made with love by people who aren't trendy talentless cookie cutter hacks. Every performance is better if there's true passion behind it, and that's basically what I chalk it up to.
A lot of the trance back in the day was made by DJs who wanted to make people feel cheerful and energized with their music and understood how to make people move. You won't find any of those traits in 99% of today's producers or songs, and that's ultimately why "trance" (as the well known commercial goofs call it) just isn't marketable anymore.


Posted by DeepN3lue on Dec-10-2014 21:18:

Hey, First of all i gotta say i dig back a lot,
Mostly live sets.

I like to hear the crowd reactions a lot , always did.
And also i think turntable DJ`in was different. Not only with in
the way it sounds but perhaps a little more emotion could be felt from
the DJ`s while they were playing at that time. The mixing was much less automated,
And aroused my ears more i believe and perhaps each and every one of our us ears as well.


Posted by Vernon Wanderer on Dec-10-2014 21:22:

Historical fallacy.


Posted by kylewindowss on Dec-11-2014 05:20:

Hello!

I wasn't listening to trance in the 90s


Posted by meriter on Dec-13-2014 20:30:

well then

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Leonard_Pickard


Posted by Trance-M on Dec-13-2014 22:14:

quote:
Originally posted by kosmotika
Because it sounds better, plain and simple. I wasn't listening to trance in the 90s, so no nostalgia factor here. It just sounds better. As far as trance goes, the older stuff is typically genuine, exciting music made with love by people who aren't trendy talentless cookie cutter hacks. Every performance is better if there's true passion behind it, and that's basically what I chalk it up to.
A lot of the trance back in the day was made by DJs who wanted to make people feel cheerful and energized with their music and understood how to make people move. You won't find any of those traits in 99% of today's producers or songs, and that's ultimately why "trance" (as the well known commercial goofs call it) just isn't marketable anymore.


I was listening to trance in the 90's. If this whole moving people stuff would be true then those 1% who are able to would be the big stars right now.


Posted by zarathustra on Dec-14-2014 07:36:

Be Cool!

Time is a dimension. Why do we bother to dig forward into the music of the future?



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