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Brain Study Shows Differences Between Gays, Straights

Pretty interesting.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...8062201994.html

This may be the answer to an old acquaintance's remark, "I just don't understand how a guy can't like pussy!"

Some excerpts:

"Some scientists say the new findings are part of an increasingly convincing body of evidence that suggests sexual orientation results from fundamental developmental differences that are probably caused by hormonal exposures in the womb.

...Savic and her colleague Per Lindstrom first used magnetic resonance imaging, or MRI, to compare the symmetry of the brains of 25 straight men and 25 straight women with those of 20 gay men and 20 gay women.

Gay men tended to have brains that were more like those of straight women than of straight men -- the right and left sides were about the same size, the researchers found. Gay women's brains tended to be more like those of straight men than of straight women -- the right side tended to be slightly larger than the left.

Many researchers suspect that changes may be the result of the levels of hormones, such as testosterone, that fetuses are exposed to in the womb."

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I find it interesting that no bisexuals were found... I wonder if they'd see theirs as a third kind of brain

left brain right brain and... middle brain

The world might had never known the difference without this study.

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Originally posted by Lira I find it interesting that no bisexuals were found... I wonder if they'd see theirs as a third kind of brain

I still think bisexuals may be more "curious" and perhaps looking for a thrill, rather than actually liking both sexes equally the same. There is probably more of a preference in one respect or another, but who knows.

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Originally posted by AlphaStarred I still think bisexuals may be more "curious" and perhaps looking for a thrill, rather than actually liking both sexes equally the same. There is probably more of a preference in one respect or another, but who knows.

And I know a lot of bisexuals that would wholly disagree with you.

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Originally posted by djshire And I know a lot of bisexuals that would wholly disagree with you.

Would any of the bisexuals you know have a serious relationship with either sex? I don't doubt they exist, I've just yet to meet one.

I have to agree; every person I've ever known who calls themselves bisexual were just either curious or had a pronounced appetite for experiences - and in that respect it would more about exploration that preference.

To be honest, the vast majority of them were frankly confused (many have admitted as much to me) until they actually figured out which one they preferred.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN ...until they actually figured out which one they preferred.

Makes sense. I had a former manager who had one or two relationships with women in the past, but always preferred men and considered himself gay, rather than bisexual. A future relationship with a woman was certainly not on his agenda anymore, as he grew older.

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Originally posted by AlphaStarred Would any of the bisexuals you know have a serious relationship with either sex? I don't doubt they exist, I've just yet to meet one.

Actually, yeah. That's why they call themselves bisexuals, really, although there are bi-curious people who probably think of themselves as bisexuals, like you said.

I've had a frank chat about it with at least two bisexual friends of mine. One of them, now a married mother, and who happened to be in a relationship with a girl when we talked about it, would say she enjoyed being with a woman a lot more than with a man because they're more affectionate, although she liked guys more. The other one just said she loved people, full stop.

A common, albeit anecdotal, trend I've noticed in bisexual people is they tend to only seriously consider relationships with the opposite sex but they are physically attracted to the same sex in a more throw-away manner.

That said, it is pretty stupid to deny that some people just love both sexes on an emotional and physical level. Those people clearly exist and they're not just being "curious" or "confused".

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Originally posted by Lira ...although she liked guys more.

So she doesn't like both sexes equally the same.

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The other one just said she loved people, full stop.

Sounds like she's confused and still hasn't figured it out, as RANN mentioned.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J A common, albeit anecdotal, trend I've noticed in bisexual people is they tend to only seriously consider relationships with the opposite sex but they are physically attracted to the same sex in a more throw-away manner.

This is what I meant by, "There is probably more of a preference in one respect or another..." and perhaps what Lira would call bi-curious?

hey what about us a-sexual types. don't leave us out!

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Originally posted by Floorfiller hey what about us a-sexual types. don't leave us out!

You don't like anything but yourselves!

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Originally posted by AlphaStarred Sounds like she's confused and still hasn't figured it out, as RANN mentioned.

To be honest though, she didn't sound at all confused. Rather, she was puzzled as to why I like women but not men... And she's got a point - the world would be a tad bit better if we were all bisexual, look at bonobos!

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Originally posted by Lira ...the world would be a tad bit better if we were all bisexual, look at bonobos!

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They also do not seem to discriminate in their sexual behavior by sex or age, with the possible exception of abstaining from sexual activity between mothers and their adult sons.

I guess daddy has more in store for his wayward children than just a little spanking.

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When bonobos come upon a new food source or feeding ground, the increased excitement will usually lead to communal sexual activity, presumably decreasing tension and encouraging peaceful feeding.

Double score!

Yeah, minus the incest. Hence why I said "a tad bit better" and not "perfect"

But, yeah, wars turned into orgies? That's an improvement! Can you imagine what WWII would've been like if Bonobo Hitler just organised a massive wargie? He would've just said stuff like "Fuck the Jews" (literally, in this case), he'd just be known as the Fücker, and once it was over, the losing side would have nothing embarrassing to hide other than a massive case of herpes.

It'd be just a "win-win-wash it with acid" scenario!

They don't wage wars for pussy, they just share it!

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Originally posted by AlphaStarred This is what I meant by, "There is probably more of a preference in one respect or another..." and perhaps what Lira would call bi-curious?

I considered the option of myself being bisexual for a couple of years although now I only consider myself straight. Never sought out an actual encounter with a man, but just as more of an identity exploration/I wonder what that would be like phase (bi-curious). When I'm out and about I notice the good looking people of both sexes, but I'm only magnetically drawn to be in the presence of a woman. When I see good looking guys its more like a passing thought of "damn, he's got a really nice face". I appreciate their attractiveness but that's the extent of it.

I've got a very high sex drive...it is off the meter. I get hit on by men and women pretty often. I'm also very open minded and into dom/sub games in the bedroom (fun!!!) which I think are factors that originally caused me to consider bisexuality.

I've dated a lot of girls over the years who have labeled themselves bisexual, but from my observation its more of a narcissistic and sexual thrill for them to hunt down a hot girl at the bar/club and seduce her. Women have a much easier time experimenting with same sex physical encounters than men do just based on what I've seen and heard. None of the women I met, even the ones that flat out scissor fucked other women turned out to be real bisexuals to the extent of having equal capacity to date long term and romantically fall in love with both sexes. (having relationships with, holding hands in public, living together, buying each other Christmas presents, taking the other person around to meet the friends/family)

My conclusion based on my own experiences and those of other open minded folks that I've spoken to: Bisexuality is probably just a sexual thrill/fantasy for a lot of folks. Fantasy and reality are 2 completely different realms however. I have yet to meet a guy or girl who was equally suited to have a relationship with a man or a woman. I bet they exist somewhere, I just haven't met one thus far. When it comes to the desire for long term, stable relationships involving pure intimacy, in my personal experience there has always been a clear preference in either direction that has been demonstrated.

The interesting thing about the concept of bisexuality is that it appears to a relatively recent cultural phenomenon, and a loosely defined one at that. What exactly does mean to be bisexual? It depends entirely on who you ask.

I'm 33 years old, and when I talk to my parent's generation about straight women hooking up with other straight women for fun, it blows their mind. My parents were both huge party people during the 80's and neither of them ever experienced dating someone of the opposite sex who experimented with the same sex. In contrast nearly all of the women I've had relationships with have had at least one sexual encounter with another woman. The recent trend towards acceptance of gay culture and and also the ease of access to free online streaming porn has driven most of the "bisexual" trend I suspect. Nowadays you can type pretty much any combination of sexual terms into a google search, and sure enough there's a high-def video for it. I suspect that this causes men and women to explore areas of their mind/sexuality that they wouldn't have otherwise. No harm in any of this in my opinion. As long as everyone is safe, who cares

So...you are willing to suck dick for that record?

Duly noted.

Bumped up in the cue.

Love you Jason <3

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Originally posted by Guest When I'm out and about I notice the good looking people of both sexes, but I'm only magnetically drawn to be in the presence of a woman. When I see good looking guys its more like a passing thought of "damn, he's got a really nice face". I appreciate their attractiveness but that's the extent of it. My conclusion based on my own experiences and those of other open minded folks that I've spoken to: Bisexuality is probably just a sexual thrill/fantasy for a lot of folks. Fantasy and reality are 2 completely different realms however. I have yet to meet a guy or girl who was equally suited to have a relationship with a man or a woman. I bet they exist somewhere, I just haven't met one thus far. When it comes to the desire for long term, stable relationships involving pure intimacy, in my personal experience there has always been a clear preference in either direction that has been demonstrated.

Sums up my experience and observations, as well.

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Originally posted by Guest Love you Jason <3

Let's play tummysticks.

TvTropes, of all places, has an interesting take on it, but I guess the problem is I'm talking about people who'd score 3 on the Kinsey Scale whereas anyone ranging from 2 to 4 would be considered bisexual. I don't doubt they're the majority and you're both right in your assessment, I just don't think the people I know can be ruled out as true threes - nor do I think it would be a good idea to rule it out on a priori grounds.

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Originally posted by Lira TvTropes, of all places, has an interesting take on it

Cool article

I can't speak for women, but I prefer to think of male sexuality as 2 distinct bubbles that overlap a little bit in the middle. There's a straight bubble and a gay bubble. Each bubble has a range of possibilities and combinations inside of it.

The reason that I think its helpful to break it out that way is because when I'm around a gay man who's either totally gay, or gay but sometimes will sleep with women, its totally obvious to me after having normal day to day conversations and interactions that he's fundamentally gay. An example would be walking through the mall. I'll see pretty girls passing by while they don't even register for him.

On the flip side, when I meet straight guys that are like myself ( a 1 on your link above), it is obvious that we both respond at a basic level to the presence of a woman, and the concept of hooking up with a guy is pure novelty. Its like maybe I could but I don't really care if I do.

I do know one guy that I used to work with that presented as a true 3. He was willing to fuck a guy or a girl just the same and he did so constantly. Often having group sex as well. He was also mean, horribly dysfunctional, alcoholic, drug addicted, bipolar, and exhibited borderline psychotic traits. For this man in particular, him being a 3 was a side effect of his poor emotional health.

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