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Uplifting Trance Nowadays..

Is so boring and predictable.
Even back then you could find cheap tracks, but at least the producer had some vision, idea, his own trademark sound. You could see his perspective. Today everything is formulaic to a ridiculous extent. I mean...I understand that the typical arrangement is what it is, and I can't expect revolutions on that side, but at least the sound selection for god sake! Don't they realize their music will sink in the ocean of mediocrity. Don't they wanna distinguish themselves from the rest?
I guess some people are just happy to achieve the sound of that "x" producer and never work on developing their own. Or maybe they have no vision whatsoever and they got into it just to persue the dream of becoming "the second, next," Tyas, Blueman of who ever they fell in love with. How delusional and stupid people can get?

You should try listening to some deep house.

Fuck me, all the same.


808,hat,bass,808,hat,bass,808,hat,bass,black dude,808,hat,bass,808,hat,bass,808,hat,bass,black dude,808,hat,bass,808,hat,bass,808,hat,bass,808,hat,bass,808,hat,bass,808,hat,bass,808,hat,bass,808,
hat,bass,808,hat,bass

I think you'll find that, the longer you're in the music industry, the more you'll notice that there are far fewer visionaries than there are copycats riding on the bandwagon. Visionaries have the risk of not having their work accepted by large audiences, which is exactly what happens to most of them. But, when they do, the bandcamp will jump on that formula as fast as possible because that's where the $$$ is - giving people what they want to hear while it's fresh. Very few people have the vision, creativity, and talent to make something that is both original and appealing to a broad audience. There's also a lot more luck and timing involved than you might think.

I kinda wish we had some "trance bands" like Chicane or Faithless doing a more original,less compressed and computerized music.

Come on with all the stupid More is MOAR approach with all the stupid noises,glitches and drops wrapped with over compression and insanely loud mastering.

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Originally posted by Robotrance even todays techno reminds more of the classical trance than todays trance does.

Yes, because there continues to be experimentation and use of Analog hardware in Techno.

Here's a couple of recent Trance tracks from someone who doesn't adhere to the modern formula (and uses both Hardware and Software):

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aphex twin, speedy j, secret cinema. all labeled techno and/or idm today but they all still capture the trance vibe we all look for.

They're labeled as such because they didn't produce Trance. But perhaps the point you're trying to make is that the line between Techno and Trance was occasionally blurred back in the day, which I would agree with.

You post 2 videos of strictly Analog Hardware, while always shouting how much better you think Software is, and advise Juan to only use the latter. I don't get it.

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Originally posted by tehlord black dude

lol

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Originally posted by Sushipunk lol

actually its true lol, i was thinking this ysterday....for some reason, it's "deep house" if theres a black guy singing sensuously....like that is the criteria......that's what makes it "deep" lmao.....it's true though......i would call that classic house, or funky/black culture house.......which is different than true "deep" house...which you dont need a sensuous black guy....

and uplifting trance.....idk i've made a couple tracks recently, that i would say are uplifting...theyre 134 bpm though...

This isn't trance either...



uplifting trance without even trying to be uplifting trance...



oh and ebotronix is a fuckin boss..

Good point Teezdalien.

The thing is, uplifting trance got "standardized" to a certain degree, thus many people restrain themselves in these standards set around 2007/2008. Before that you could hear Chicane's "Offshore", Paul Van Dyk's "Nothing But You" or Delerium's "Innocente" not doubting anyone of them being uplifting although structurally quite far away.

The new generation of producers are convinced they must adhere to some predefined rules to fall in the category. They don't have imagination whatsoever nor the desire to push the boundaries they've enslaved themselves into.

Hmm I only like one guy, and that's John Askew

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Originally posted by Innocence Lost Hmm I only like one guy, and that's John Askew

Don't you mean Dave Parkinson?

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Originally posted by XDR Don't you mean Dave Parkinson?

Now Now, how many askew tracks has he ghost produced? very curious.

Has he even ghost produced any for him at all?

Like Geoff said in another thread, top labels use mix engineers and from what I've read and seen recently Dave Parkinson is one of the best. I'm not saying he don't ghost produce for a lot people but how do you know that John Askew didn't just send Dave his 80+ track projects that he made and mixed so that he could get an extra 10% out of them?

Give credit where it is due, but don't take away the artists hard work in doing so.

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