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Posted by Constantin on Jan-01-2015 22:27:

Big Ears monitors suggestion thread no 53846737

Hello! With a budget of ~ 700$ what monitors would you recommend to a fellow tranceaddict to "pair up" with his akg240?


Posted by Innocence Lost on Jan-01-2015 22:36:

Hmm what about the brand new range silver toped akg monitors, andy28 & tehlord have a pair. Class Double A amplification with DSP sound.


Posted by TranceLover007 on Jan-01-2015 23:10:

Re: monitors suggestion thread no 53846737

quote:
Originally posted by Constantin
Hello! With a budget of ~ 700$ what monitors would you recommend to a fellow tranceaddict to "pair up" with his akg240?


How big is your room?

Darek


Posted by Constantin on Jan-02-2015 04:07:

15 square meter

AKG monitors look tempting, but then I will have to buy an akg soundcard and keyboard as well to get a full match


Posted by TranceLover007 on Jan-02-2015 04:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Constantin
15 square meter

AKG monitors look tempting, but then I will have to buy an akg soundcard and keyboard as well to get a full match


Relatively the same as my and I'm using JBL LSR305 5" (came down from Yamaha HS 80) - so far so good, can't complain .

Cheers,

Darek


Posted by Constantin on Jan-02-2015 10:28:

I guess that in a room like this even with some good treatment it still will be a bass mud fest for 8" monitors, right? xD


Posted by TranceLover007 on Jan-02-2015 16:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Constantin
I guess that in a room like this even with some good treatment it still will be a bass mud fest for 8" monitors, right? xD


Yes


Posted by Andy28 on Jan-02-2015 17:16:

Is that why you went smaller Darek?


Posted by TranceLover007 on Jan-03-2015 20:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Andy28
Is that why you went smaller Darek?


Yes, bass from Yamaha's where overwhelming everything else in this room - like bass was killing every other freq in it - even with proper room treatment still couldn't get satisfactory results.

Edit: Still have Yamaha's in different room + B&W in living room for final check.

Cheers,

Darek


Posted by Andy28 on Jan-03-2015 21:56:

Its by far the hardest thing to judge.. I always thought 5" monitors would be too small but they seem quite popular atm. I assumed they would lack a lot of low end.

Must be nice to have a selection now for comparing your work on.


Posted by TranceLover007 on Jan-03-2015 23:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Andy28
Its by far the hardest thing to judge.. I always thought 5" monitors would be too small but they seem quite popular atm. I assumed they would lack a lot of low end.

Must be nice to have a selection now for comparing your work on.


I would suggest to go for JBL LSR305 5" and save some for other things in your studio - I'm pretty happy from what I can get from those JBL so on the end of the day it is all about what you will be happy from lol

Darek


Posted by evo8 on Jan-04-2015 14:36:

thing about 5" monitors is that they just wont put out any sub worth mentioning. This is fine once you realise this, it just makes it difficult to hear what exactly is going below 50/60 Hz


Posted by Constantin on Jan-04-2015 14:53:

I like mixing on headphones, BUT I want to feel the track also, thing which the headphones ain't helping me to do. I find my self going back in forth between the headphones and a shity 2.1 multimedia system when I am tinkering on a kick. That's one of the reasons I want to purchase finally some monitors


Posted by evo8 on Jan-04-2015 18:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Constantin
I like mixing on headphones, BUT I want to feel the track also, thing which the headphones ain't helping me to do. I find my self going back in forth between the headphones and a shity 2.1 multimedia system when I am tinkering on a kick. That's one of the reasons I want to purchase finally some monitors


if you are happy with your headphones id have a look at that Subpac thing, seems to be getting good reviews, allows you to feel the subbass in your track


Posted by Andy28 on Jan-04-2015 19:18:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
id have a look at that Subpac thing


I've watched a few videos on these now and peoples reactions are quite positive. I'm still sceptical about the whole concept though in terms of music production and how it will be of any use.


Posted by Constantin on Jan-04-2015 22:38:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
thing about 5" monitors is that they just wont put out any sub worth mentioning. This is fine once you realise this, it just makes it difficult to hear what exactly is going below 50/60 Hz


Would be there something like a sweet spot for a small bedroom?


Posted by TranceLover007 on Jan-05-2015 03:58:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
thing about 5" monitors is that they just wont put out any sub worth mentioning. This is fine once you realise this, it just makes it difficult to hear what exactly is going below 50/60 Hz


There is not much of difference between Yamaha's HS80 or JBL305 5" in frequency range -> HS80 go down to 42Hz and JBL to 43Hz so you would be really surprise how JBL handle low end - I'm pretty happy.

Reference sites:

http://usa.yamaha.com/products/musi...80m/?mode=model

http://www.jblpro.com/www/products/...05#.VKoL3CvF-J8


Darek


Posted by evo8 on Jan-05-2015 14:04:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceLover007
There is not much of difference between Yamaha's HS80 or JBL305 5" in frequency range -> HS80 go down to 42Hz and JBL to 43Hz so you would be really surprise how JBL handle low end - I'm pretty happy.

Reference sites:

http://usa.yamaha.com/products/musi...80m/?mode=model

http://www.jblpro.com/www/products/...05#.VKoL3CvF-J8


Darek


would be interesting to see the roll-off points etc......


Posted by TranceLover007 on Jan-05-2015 18:50:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
would be interesting to see the roll-off points etc......


There is a lot of discussions on gearslutz site about HS80/8 and JBL's 8"/5" - one of them you can read here (interesting as he spend some amount of time investigate small differences between some of those speakers):

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/rev...ml#post10362243

Cheers,

Darek


Posted by cryophonik on Jan-05-2015 19:18:

I have the Yamaha HS80Ms and I'd recommend them, although I haven't really compared them to anything else since I bought them many years ago. I think that they have plenty of bass for most people (maybe too much for a small room), but I also have the matching subwoofer. My studio has almost no low end (probably because of all the furniture, carpet, etc), so I really need the sub to help compensate, but I have it connected to my monitor controller and can easily bypass to A/B with and without.


Posted by Constantin on Jan-05-2015 19:47:

Found on discount a pair of events 20/20 on a stores webpage (demo pair). The jew inside me screams to buy them. Does the front ported bass reflex help in a room the size of mine or will make no difference?


Posted by TranceLover007 on Jan-05-2015 20:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Constantin
Found on discount a pair of events 20/20 on a stores webpage (demo pair). The jew inside me screams to buy them. Does the front ported bass reflex help in a room the size of mine or will make no difference?


Check gearslutz site as there was one comment directly compere HS8-JBL-20/20 so you could have a better idea about any significant difference between them - of course this is only from reviewer perspective and his listening experience.

I may include this shortcut if I find it.

Edit: gearslutz

Darek


Posted by evo8 on Jan-05-2015 20:17:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
I have the Yamaha HS80Ms and I'd recommend them, although I haven't really compared them to anything else since I bought them many years ago. I think that they have plenty of bass for most people (maybe too much for a small room), but I also have the matching subwoofer. My studio has almost no low end (probably because of all the furniture, carpet, etc), so I really need the sub to help compensate, but I have it connected to my monitor controller and can easily bypass to A/B with and without.


yeah have seen good reviews of the HS80M. Speaking from experience i would try and get decent monitors right now as you will only be upgrading in the future anyway


Posted by TranceLover007 on Jan-05-2015 20:35:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
yeah have seen good reviews of the HS80M. Speaking from experience i would try and get decent monitors right now as you will only be upgrading in the future anyway


It was my prefer set of speakers but size of my room was the deciding factor which force me to move them to a larger room and switch them with JBL's 305 for more accurate response.

Darek


Posted by Constantin on Jan-07-2015 18:19:

Took a lil trip today to a town where I was able to test some monitors, so far from what I heard there and what Mr Darek and Mr Robotrance suggested here, the JBLs look like to be the kind of monitors I am looking for. 80% decided to buy them, any other personal reviews about them are welcome


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