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All In One Hardware Sequencer?

Looking for an external machine that enables you to write down a whole piece on the fly. Just getting down your ideas as quickly as possible. Something that allows live arrangement and is equipped with some sort of drum pads/buttons for beat creation.

More and more I realize how much a daw works against creativity. It is distracting and many operations require precious time which could be used in a more prolific way.

Am I asking for too much?

MPC?

When you say whole piece do you mean DAW level complicated? Cos that doesn't exist.

Options include Electribes, MPCs, Elektrons and the mighty Cirklon.


If you have an iPad, Korg Gadget goes a long way.

If you have plenty of dough to spare, I'd just go for a 909. Grab em' before they reach $5,000!

If you want something decent and relatively quite cheap, check out the Electribe.



The TR-8 is not bad, either, as far as hardware digital drum machines go, and you get both the 909 and 808 kits inside, not to mention a 707 kit you can d/l for another $100 or so. The kick is fat, and you can do some pretty mean things with a Proco Rat Distortion pedal.

Cirklon, haven't used my daw sequencer ever since..ll

Arturia just announced a new BeatStep Pro:



Personally, I'd find a second-hand E-mu XL-7 Command Station. I had one years ago and it kicked some serious ass for sequencing, plus on-board sounds (it's a ROMpler/hardware sequencer).

http://www.vintagesynth.com/emu/xl7.php

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Originally posted by cryophonik Personally, I'd find a second-hand E-mu XL-7 Command Station. I had one years ago and it kicked some serious ass for sequencing, plus on-board sounds (it's a ROMpler/hardware sequencer). http://www.vintagesynth.com/emu/xl7.php

Jesus Dave, you are oodschool. It quite literally have not heard that beast's name uttered since 2001 when I used to peddle them for a living. They were actually great but the sounds will be so dated now. At one point they really were the staple of the hip hop/pop crossover thing.

Thanks for brining back some memories.

Back OT, The Yamaha RS7000 was truly the only box that I've ever seen that you could really make an entire track in from start to finish. You needed a PHD in yamaha, but it did sound good.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Back OT, The Yamaha RS7000 was truly the only box that I've ever seen that you could really make an entire track in from start to finish. You needed a PHD in yamaha, but it did sound good.

Sounds interesting.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Jesus Dave, you are oodschool. It quite literally have not heard that beast's name uttered since 2001 when I used to peddle them for a living. They were actually great but the sounds will be so dated now. At one point they really were the staple of the hip hop/pop crossover thing. Thanks for brining back some memories.

Yeah, sound-wise, it will sound pretty dated, but it's actually pretty good for sequencing other hardware. I used mine far more for running my old Viruses, Nords, and Novations than I did for the internal sounds. I keep waiting for that day when I find one on craigslist for $100.

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Originally posted by cryophonik Personally, I'd find a second-hand E-mu XL-7 Command Station. I had one years ago and it kicked some serious ass for sequencing, plus on-board sounds (it's a ROMpler/hardware sequencer). http://www.vintagesynth.com/emu/xl7.php

Jesus, the price on those roms.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/25-EMU-Rom-E...=item339c83e83d

That's ridiculous! I can't imagine the demand is that high for ROMs.

Roland Groovebox
Akia MPC

Wait a sec.....waaaaait a sec

http://www.matrixsynth.com/2015/01/...new-engine.html

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Originally posted by tehlord Wait a sec.....waaaaait a sec http://www.matrixsynth.com/2015/01/...new-engine.html

Hmmm interdasting but it seems to have the same spec as the original electribes?

8 pads, 64 steps per pattern (which is only 8 bars at 1/8th note res). Very cool that is has a CV option, but other than that, I can'y see what it does much above an beyond an old tribe would do?

Maybe I'm missing something?

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Originally posted by MSZ Jesus, the price on those roms. http://www.ebay.ca/itm/25-EMU-Rom-E...=item339c83e83d

Fuck that depresses me. When I worked in audio retail / kit service, at one point when PC started taking over, you literally could not give away those roms. I remember we were doing specials where we gave several free ROM boards away just to flog the outstanding units.

That world rom was rare though - they never had it in stock. That's probably $1-2k right there by itself.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Hmmm interdasting but it seems to have the same spec as the original electribes? 8 pads, 64 steps per pattern (which is only 8 bars at 1/8th note res). Very cool that is has a CV option, but other than that, I can'y see what it does much above an beyond an old tribe would do? Maybe I'm missing something?

I think the point is that these days there's a thriving sub culture of youtube jammers looking for stuff that sits on a desktop together all sequencing itself. It also has connectivity an Electribe can only dream of, which speaks to that sub culture.

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Originally posted by tehlord I think the point is that these days there's a thriving sub culture of youtube jammers looking for stuff that sits on a desktop together all sequencing itself. It also has connectivity an Electribe can only dream of, which speaks to that sub culture.

True dat about the subculture and people actually wanting tactile kit. It's truly great to see that hardware is finding it's place again, alongside DAWS.

I'm not so sure about the extra connectivity statement though; it has USB Midi (not a huge step up from Tribe as it's just a built in USB to midi tinterface which costs all of $10 or is already included on most audio interfaces these days) and yes, the CV option is great for anyone with analogue synths but again, I could name you 20 companies that make solid midi to CV gate interfaces for peanuts.

Nice that's it's all in one box but honestly, it's really not that much of a step up from the tribes connectivity.

Now if they had made it fully integrate by USB (i.e. drag and drop samples or libray editor interface to control VST's) then I would shut up and let them take my money.

I think it's the 8 channels of CV with the sequencer in one package that appeals to people.

There's nothing new here, it's just a neat combination of existing products in one back-packable product.

Now if only somebody would make a more knobby Cirklon type thingy with 8 mini ins/outs and all of the CV

Yes pleases.

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Originally posted by tehlord Now if only somebody would make a more knobby Cirklon type thingy with 8 mini ins/outs and all of the CV Yes pleases.

Om nom nom.

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Originally posted by tehlord When you say whole piece do you mean DAW level complicated?

YES.

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Originally posted by tehlord Cos that doesn't exist.

Yep, I realized that.

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Originally posted by tehlord Options include Electribes, MPCs, Elektrons and the mighty Cirklon.

Yes, I am evaluating some of these right now.

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Originally posted by tehlord If you have an iPad, Korg Gadget goes a long way.

Definitely thinking about integrating an iPad in my workflow. It might set me free from the chains of the combo "chair, screen, mouse".

Just ordered a Korg ER-1, myself. I hear it's actually analog? Or is it just analog-modeling? Anyway, it's pretty damned cheap and has some nice features, including being a MIDI step sequencer and containing an Audio In input to process whatever other machine you want and filter it with the various fx. Should be interesting, hopefully, and I hear it's great for tekno.



http://www.vintagesynth.com/korg/etr.php

Used to have the ES-1 model, which I used for samples. Great little fun machine; don't let the plastic casing fool you.

Yamaha or Emu

I would go with Emu command Station Mp7 or XL7 since it got those nice pads. A lot of people been saying good things about Rm1x, but the internal sounds are somewhat weak. I've used both, but if you're looking for something to control other gear, rm1x might be your thing. Command station is also a nice sequencer, and it sounds better then rm1x. Both can be had for about $200 on eBay, take your pick, if you don't like it, you can always sell it back.

Electribes are nice, too, but are not as sophisticated.

If you got more money to blow, definetly go with Elektron.

Me and my groovebox!

Check out the MC-307.

This is new and interdasting.

Short run of EU only sales initially though

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