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Posted by mnw479 on Feb-20-2015 21:09:

Ableton Live Out of Memory Error

Hi friends,

Before y'all ask, I have googled this problem and the solution I came across on the official ableton website did not work at all for me. So although I have been getting this error occasionally on a rather large project I'm working on that I didn't bother making efficient, recently it has gotten to the point where I can't open the project without it immediately crashing. If I knew this would happen I would have immediately started deleting used tracks/clips, mixing down to audio and disabling unneeded plug-ins. But, I can't now because I can't even open the project!

What was suggested on ableton's help page was that I can drag and drop the individual tracks from my project, using the Ableton browser, into a new project, and freeze and flatten them there which should reduce the load of my original project. However, maybe because I am using an older version of Ableton, or by some other black magic, I cannot drag and drop the tracks from the browser into the new project. Which sucks huge balls.

I was wondering if y'all had any tips so I can work on my lovely project. Thanks and I appreciate it!

-MNW


Posted by TranceLover007 on Feb-20-2015 21:18:

Re: Ableton Live Out of Memory Error

quote:
Originally posted by mnw479
Hi friends,

Before y'all ask, I have googled this problem and the solution I came across on the official ableton website did not work at all for me. So although I have been getting this error occasionally on a rather large project I'm working on that I didn't bother making efficient, recently it has gotten to the point where I can't open the project without it immediately crashing. If I knew this would happen I would have immediately started deleting used tracks/clips, mixing down to audio and disabling unneeded plug-ins. But, I can't now because I can't even open the project!

What was suggested on ableton's help page was that I can drag and drop the individual tracks from my project, using the Ableton browser, into a new project, and freeze and flatten them there which should reduce the load of my original project. However, maybe because I am using an older version of Ableton, or by some other black magic, I cannot drag and drop the tracks from the browser into the new project. Which sucks huge balls.

I was wondering if y'all had any tips so I can work on my lovely project. Thanks and I appreciate it!

-MNW


Let step back for a sec and use elimination process to figure out what is the source of your problem? - is this happening with every project you are opening or only the old ones? - I ask because I had the same problem on my project save with Live 8 and couldn't open in Live 9.

Darek


Posted by mnw479 on Feb-20-2015 21:20:

It's definitely because the project is very large and I slapped a bunch of big ticket plug-ins on it without a second thought. Other smaller projects do not have this problem, so by that process I figured it definitely had to do with the above. Furthermore, out of memory means my PC lacks procesing power, which would be a result of an intensive project.

I'm really asking about a way to access my project and tweak it to make it lighter on the system. I would even consider reverting it to a previous version, but right now none of it is accessible to me.


Posted by TranceLover007 on Feb-20-2015 21:28:

quote:
Originally posted by mnw479
It's definitely because the project is very large and I slapped a bunch of big ticket plug-ins on it without a second thought. Other smaller projects do not have this problem, so by that process I figured it definitely had to do with the above. Furthermore, out of memory means my PC lacks procesing power, which would be a result of an intensive project.

I'm really asking about a way to access my project and tweak it to make it lighter on the system. I would even consider reverting it to a previous version, but right now none of it is accessible to me.


Let me get it straight -> my problem was that some of my projects was save on rev 8 and I couldn't open it on rev 9 because one or two plug-ins where not install on 9 lol so I was crashing every time I tried to open it - my solution was to take it back to 8 with all of my pre-install plugins and find out which of those plugins are missing in 9 lol then remove that particular one and save.

Darek


Posted by mnw479 on Feb-20-2015 21:41:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceLover007
Let me get it straight -> my problem was that some of my projects was save on rev 8 and I couldn't open it on rev 9 because one or two plug-ins where not install on 9 lol so I was crashing every time I tried to open it - my solution was to take it back to 8 with all of my pre-install plugins and find out which of those plugins are missing in 9 lol then remove that particular one and save.

Darek


Gotcha. Unfortunately, that doesn't help with my problem.


Posted by TranceLover007 on Feb-20-2015 21:52:

quote:
Originally posted by mnw479
Gotcha. Unfortunately, that doesn't help with my problem.


Project size have never been a problem for me - I have some with 50-70 tracks/layers and even with may old computer (only 8gb of ram) I was able to open it without any problem lol

Darek


Posted by DJ RANN on Feb-20-2015 22:05:

Do me a favor:

Open up your task manager / system resources, then open the ableton project.

What does the little RAM graph show?

Report back....


Posted by Andy28 on Feb-20-2015 22:39:

When dragging the tracks over click and hold in on the track but don't let go till you see a little arrow or plus sign (can't remember from the top of my head which it is).. It can take a few seconds to appear so wait then release the mouse button..

I'm assuming you can't just open an earlier saved file of your project, you should be saving them xx1, xx2, xx3 etc.. If your using kontact or omnisphere (or what ever else that could use lots of ram) you could remove it from your vst folder so live will load your project without it and then you can make changes to you tracks to lighten the load and then insert the vsts back into the folder and reload.

Give it a try


Posted by TranceLover007 on Feb-20-2015 22:49:

Missing plug-ins may/will be causing your Live session to crash.

Darek


Posted by meriter on Feb-20-2015 23:08:

ran into this with 32bit because I unknowingly built all my drum kits in Simpler which loads everything into RAM


Posted by mnw479 on Feb-20-2015 23:45:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceLover007
Project size have never been a problem for me - I have some with 50-70 tracks/layers and even with may old computer (only 8gb of ram) I was able to open it without any problem lol

Darek


Well you see I have 150+ tracks on this project, not because it's super complex but because I'm really disorganized and didn't bother to clean it up after working on it for so long. So a lot of plug-ins and clips are hanging out that I'm not using which is killing my RAM I think.


Posted by mnw479 on Feb-20-2015 23:46:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Do me a favor:

Open up your task manager / system resources, then open the ableton project.

What does the little RAM graph show?

Report back....


That's not possible because the program crashes if I try to load the project lol. Unless you mean just opening a new track and checking that? Or opening the project and checking when I immediately get the crash error?


Posted by mnw479 on Feb-20-2015 23:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Andy28
When dragging the tracks over click and hold in on the track but don't let go till you see a little arrow or plus sign (can't remember from the top of my head which it is).. It can take a few seconds to appear so wait then release the mouse button..

I'm assuming you can't just open an earlier saved file of your project, you should be saving them xx1, xx2, xx3 etc.. If your using kontact or omnisphere (or what ever else that could use lots of ram) you could remove it from your vst folder so live will load your project without it and then you can make changes to you tracks to lighten the load and then insert the vsts back into the folder and reload.

Give it a try


Neat! I will definitely give this a go!


Posted by Andy28 on Feb-20-2015 23:48:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceLover007
Missing plug-ins may/will be causing your Live session to crash.

Darek


How come?? Live recognises that they aren't there and will run just fine. If it does crash I guarantee it has nothing to do with plugins missing.


Posted by TranceLover007 on Feb-21-2015 00:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Andy28
How come?? Live recognises that they aren't there and will run just fine. If it does crash I guarantee it has nothing to do with plugins missing.


It is probably a complex issues as I did upgrade my Live to 9 from 8 and this was 32 bit to 64 bit upgrade so I didn't install two of my plugins to 9 and when I try to open my older work like this "Babylon" track I was constantly crashing until I open it in 8 and delete two of those plugins.

Darek


Posted by Andy28 on Feb-21-2015 00:23:

Hmm strange...

I've never had that problem when opening old projects they just play without the missing plugins if I don't have them installed.

Tbh I've not really had many crashes at all with ableton in ages. 9 seems pretty solid on Mac where as 8 on windows was really quite bad.


Posted by TranceLover007 on Feb-21-2015 00:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Andy28
Hmm strange...

I've never had that problem when opening old projects they just play without the missing plugins if I don't have them installed.

Tbh I've not really had many crashes at all with ableton in ages. 9 seems pretty solid on Mac where as 8 on windows was really quite bad.


If I remember this correctly Kontact5 was the issue.

Darek


Posted by mnw479 on Feb-21-2015 22:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Andy28
When dragging the tracks over click and hold in on the track but don't let go till you see a little arrow or plus sign (can't remember from the top of my head which it is).. It can take a few seconds to appear so wait then release the mouse button..

I'm assuming you can't just open an earlier saved file of your project, you should be saving them xx1, xx2, xx3 etc.. If your using kontact or omnisphere (or what ever else that could use lots of ram) you could remove it from your vst folder so live will load your project without it and then you can make changes to you tracks to lighten the load and then insert the vsts back into the folder and reload.

Give it a try


Your my fucking hero man. First tip worked! Thanks!


Posted by Innocence Lost on Feb-23-2015 20:12:

Speaking of sexton, it has the best gate which is specifically for electronic drums, wish all daws had one like it.



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