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Posted by Eugene on Oct-21-2002 23:23:

MP3.com artists

Has anyone moved beyond MP3.com?
Do you have any respect for that institution?

No offense to any MP3.com artists.

But most amateurs and beginners whose work gets released commercially have at no point posted on MP3.com, which has become associated in many people's minds with 'being stuck in a rut' of amateurishness.


Posted by attacc on Oct-21-2002 23:55:

I don't see the link between being on mp3.com and not being signed. It's not that you have a less chance of being signed if you are an artist on mp3.com.

ppk, darude, airbase are at least 3 artists on mp3.com that has got signed.

I'm more or less neutral to mp3.com. It's an okay place to attract some listeners. What I don't like with mp3.com is all the ads, especially those really annoying flash ads.


Posted by Eugene on Oct-22-2002 01:22:

quote:
Originally posted by attacc
ppk

ppk = amateurs


Posted by El~ZaPo on Oct-22-2002 01:56:

mp3.com artists:

Airbase
Yahel
Astral Projection
Infected Mushroom
Anjunabeats aka Above & Beyond


Posted by Tony Morello on Oct-22-2002 04:22:

sorry, but i can't afford webspace to host my own webpage
i guess that gives me less of a chance of being signed

i don't give a shit about the promotional aspect or anything like that
i just want somewhere to host my music and have it easily accessable by others..
i don't know of anywhere else that gives me the chance to host my songs and put up a webpage

a friend of mine is actually in contract talks with 3 labels and already has stuff released on 2, and he posts his stuff on mp3.com

i dont see a problem with using what is accessable, even if it seems "amaturish"

if it offends you that much, offer up some server space for us then


Posted by attacc on Oct-22-2002 04:27:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Shockwav
sorry, but i can't afford webspace to host my own webpage
i guess that gives me less of a chance of being signed

i don't give a shit about the promotional aspect or anything like that
i just want somewhere to host my music and have it easily accessable by others..
i don't know of anywhere else that gives me the chance to host my songs and put up a webpage

a friend of mine is actually in contract talks with 3 labels and already has stuff released on 2, and he posts his stuff on mp3.com

i dont see a problem with using what is accessable, even if it seems "amaturish"

if it offends you that much, offer up some server space for us then


I totally agree with you. I've got one remixing offer from an american label from just being on mp3 and some of my tracks is on something called TXT ME tv. By the way, are there anyone else on these boards who also are on TXT ME tv?


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Oct-22-2002 06:47:

Mp3.com are bastards who rip you off in every way they can.

They support open bribing to get better chart results and people are stupid enough to believe that there would be someone else than the other artists to listen to the tunes.


Posted by Tony Morello on Oct-22-2002 07:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Mp3.com are bastards who rip you off in every way they can.

They support open bribing to get better chart results and people are stupid enough to believe that there would be someone else than the other artists to listen to the tunes.


but as i said in my original post...
i don't care about the whole promotion thing
even if it's only other artists listening to my stuff...

what i care about is pointing someone i know in the direction on my mp3.com site and having them take a listen

sure it would be a bonus for some random person to listen and sign it, but that's not why i signed up


Posted by TOR on Oct-22-2002 10:14:

mp3.com isn't all that bad. you just have to do some digging to encounter good trance. and trust me, there is some good trance on mp3.com! just ignore the charts and...

check out my radio station HERE


Posted by Icone on Oct-22-2002 11:32:

Re: MP3.com artists

i just see mp3.com as a way to get my tracks online, plus to get some albums sold... i'm using whatever options they give me, and that i like to use, nothing more

alot of mp3.com artists have been spotted by labels (they are searching as well! - incl myself), so i don't think signing up at mp3.com gives you these limitations.
same as with every other kind of site like that (iuma.com, ampcast.com)... what do you think of them?

greetz,
Wim/LW


Posted by Icone on Oct-22-2002 11:35:

quote:
Originally posted by tor8024
mp3.com isn't all that bad. you just have to do some digging to encounter good trance. and trust me, there is some good trance on mp3.com! just ignore the charts and...

check out my radio station HERE



hey kev, you don't have me on your station


just kidding, good station mate!
cheers,
Wim


Posted by Luke Terry on Oct-22-2002 13:47:

Cool

u have all forgotton Mike Olson's wonderful Guardians Of The Earth


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Oct-22-2002 16:19:

Oh, and let's not forget that if you release a NetCD there they'll own the rights to your tunes forever - you cannot delete them.


Posted by Robert on Oct-22-2002 21:08:

i HATE mp3.com.. just the way it works and all.. heh
whenever someone on here posts a track/remix and it's on mp3.com i often can't be arsed anymore. i want a direct download/stream.


Posted by Eugene on Oct-22-2002 22:40:

Guys, I know some of you already have experience in writing Trance, I wish you all the best and I know you have talent.

I'm just saying, don't you find it ironic that when one of a zillion obscure Trance records comes out -- obscure, but professional enough to be released on vinyl! -- chances are that the author of that obscure record never posted on mp3.com? And if he had posted, then his name would have become associated with "mp3.com", and -- paradoxically -- the chances of his track being released, trimmed down to zero?

I feel, for some strange reason, that posting on MP3.com dooms you to an amateurish career. I can't explain it, but I do feel this way! If I were to give advice to a beginner, I'd say: Avoid that site...

Some of you mentioned Yahel. Yahel does not sound professional to me. Nor does PPK. Nor Trance[]Control. They're all amateurs...


Posted by 8Wonders on Oct-22-2002 23:12:

Astral Projection has been producing way before mp3.com even existed, so to call them an MP3 artist is wrong. As for Yahel, if you think his sound isn't proffesional then you better clean out your ears.


Posted by Eugene on Oct-22-2002 23:15:

quote:
Originally posted by DC-
As for Yahel, if you think his sound isn't proffesional then you better clean out your ears.

Yahel's productions are relatively amateurish. They just don't have that sound, that professional stamp. I know many people will agree with me.


Posted by Haak on Oct-22-2002 23:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Eugene
Yahel's productions are relatively amateurish. They just don't have that sound, that professional stamp. I know many people will agree with me.


Uhm, maybe some of his older stuff, but his new stuff definately has a professional sound. Accadia - Blind visions (Yahel remix) for instance


Posted by attacc on Oct-22-2002 23:32:

What is a proffesional sound? Something that sounds good enough for release? Yahel has released loads hasn't he? Wouldn't he have a proffesional sound then?

I think Yahel makes excellent tracks


Posted by Tony Morello on Oct-22-2002 23:32:

so you are an authority on production now

this is what is sad with our scene...
i see it everyday... people i used to connect with and consider friends, all of a sudden they get a break and they forget who they are and where they came from...

all of a sudden it's like "supa star dj/producer"
"i don't want to be associated with you, you're too amaturish and half assed."

so what eugene... you all of a sudden got good and got a nice break?
why the attitude towards someone trying to develop a sound?

we're not all perfect right out of the gate... sometimes it takes years to develop a sound
and for a few lucky people, it just all of a sudden comes naturally

i know that i will NEVER forget who i am and where i came from, as well as who helped me get there


Posted by Eugene on Oct-22-2002 23:52:

Wow, DJ Shockwav, really harsh words and accusations about something I didn't even want to portray as 'breaking away' or being arrogant in any way, I'm not even a producer, and not even a DJ!

You misunderstood my post and I'm very sorry about that. At no point did I ever say anything about our TAs who post on MP3.com, I was referring to the site itself and the process that it entails.

I said it on the last page, I'll say it again: There are many talented producers among TAs (I am not a producer), I'm just afraid that they will "stagnate" if they don't move on. MP3.com, in my mind, is exactly what may cause that stagnation.


Posted by Tony Morello on Oct-23-2002 01:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Eugene
Wow, DJ Shockwav, really harsh words and accusations about something I didn't even want to portray as 'breaking away' or being arrogant in any way, I'm not even a producer, and not even a DJ!

You misunderstood my post and I'm very sorry about that. At no point did I ever say anything about our TAs who post on MP3.com, I was referring to the site itself and the process that it entails.

I said it on the last page, I'll say it again: There are many talented producers among TAs (I am not a producer), I'm just afraid that they will "stagnate" if they don't move on. MP3.com, in my mind, is exactly what may cause that stagnation.


i'm sorry too
you posts just seemed as though you were looking down upon people who use mp3.com

i was just fed up with people thinking they were "holier than thou" type of thing

i've had bad experiences with guys that have all of a sudden gotten a good break and just start ignoring me cause i don't have a residency or anything like that and they do
and they develop that whole "supa star dj" image
they totally forget who their friends are and shit on the people that helped get them there


Posted by Eugene on Oct-23-2002 02:13:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Shockwav
i'm sorry too
you posts just seemed as though you were looking down upon people who use mp3.com

i was just fed up with people thinking they were "holier than thou" type of thing

i've had bad experiences with guys that have all of a sudden gotten a good break and just start ignoring me cause i don't have a residency or anything like that and they do
and they develop that whole "supa star dj" image
they totally forget who their friends are and shit on the people that helped get them there

Hell, I hate those motherfu*kers too, I really hate arrogant people!
I, too, will never forget my "roots" -- if I ever achieve success.
Once again: No arrogance was ever implied -- only respect to my fellow TAs!

My point was that for many people MP3.com offers nothing but a self-fulfilling prophecy of amateurishness.


Posted by 8Wonders on Oct-23-2002 06:07:

quote:
Uhm, maybe some of his older stuff, but his new stuff definately has a professional sound. Accadia - Blind visions (Yahel remix) for instance


I once again disagree with that. His older stuff sounds as proffesional as his newer stuff, it's just that his style changed. His older stuff was typical goa and sounds good as just that, goa.

Just because it doesn't sound like a Ferry Corsten or Armin production doesn't make it any less proffesional, or the fact that you may not like the genre under which he produces.


Posted by McBigMac on Oct-23-2002 06:32:

I somehow have to agree with that alot of "amateurish trance", is on mp3.com..... but theyre are quite good talents also.


However, as mr.mystery said, at some point every track you EVER uploaded to mp3.com, they gain the rights to it.

Tokyo Dawn Records, a famed oldskool tracking, proved this by going through EVERY paragraph mp3.com has and pointing it out. That was some time ago.

I dunno if they changed it anything now, but this was proven.....

Think about... Everything you ever uploaded there, which can be a reason why not many from there get signed?? i dont know.....

But that fact, and the whole, unless you got a big posse and have money to bribe mp3.com, is the only way, youll get to the top.


Its commercialism in its worst......


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