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Effect in beat, is it reverb or reverse or...?

I was dissecting this beat loop I really loved. I was trying to re-create it with Reason (trying to learn more of beat making).

But, there is this reverb after the kick drum and I can't get similar with Reason's reverbs. I was wondering, is that really a reverb or is it more like kick that is reversed and the "kick" part is cut off? What is your comments?

Here is the little sample (first you can hear the noormal beat + after that comes the "reverb" I dissected so you can hear just the "reverb" effect I was talking about):
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Re: Effect in beat, is it reverb or reverse or...?

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Originally posted by Jenna_girl I was dissecting this beat loop I really loved. I was trying to re-create it with Reason (trying to learn more of beat making). But, there is this reverb after the kick drum and I can't get similar with Reason's reverbs. I was wondering, is that really a reverb or is it more like kick that is reversed and the "kick" part is cut off? What is your comments? Here is the little sample (first you can hear the noormal beat + after that comes the "reverb" I dissected so you can hear just the "reverb" effect I was talking about): [[ LINK REMOVED ]]

I bet it is a reverb from the kick but probably not on the same channel. As in, I wouldn't put a reverb effect directly on the kick. What I would do, is duplicate the kick track, and then add a reverb to that track with no dry signal. After that, I'd bounce it to audio, cut the bass out with the EQ and maybe brighten it so it's a bit more present, and maybe even compress it so that the reverb tail stays loud. After you've done that you can just cut the audio sample when the next drum hit plays. If you don't do that, it will make everything sound wet and muddy.

If you really want to keep things clean, I'd side chain the reverb track to the kick so you don't have the click/transient twice. You could also just automate volume I suppose.

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Thank you so much for the information! I will try that. Sounds very interesting (I didn't realize I could do it like that)

I think I did see somewhere a tutorial how to record a drum sample in Reason so I don't need to do it outside Reason. I will try to re-find that tutorial

One thing I don't understand: "and then add a reverb to that track with no dry signal"? What do you mean by the dry signal? Do you mean by dry signal the "original" kick?

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Originally posted by Jenna_girl One thing I don't understand: "and then add a reverb to that track with no dry signal"? What do you mean by the dry signal? Do you mean by dry signal the "original" kick?

havent used reason since r3 or something, but from what i remember, its like this:

if you have your verb on an aux send in the mixer, you should have a pre/post button somewhere, that lets you turn down the kick while it still sends its sound to the verb.

another, maybe easier way for you, is this:
flip round the redrum, and route the kicks output into a spider audio splitter. now route 2 outputs from splitter into 2 seperate mixer channels (with 1 of them have a verb in its path), and you can have the reverb on its own mixer channel.

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Originally posted by sptek havent used reason since r3 or something, but from what i remember, its like this: if you have your verb on an aux send in the mixer, you should have a pre/post button somewhere, that lets you turn down the kick while it still sends its sound to the verb. another, maybe easier way for you, is this: flip round the redrum, and route the kicks output into a spider audio splitter. now route 2 outputs from splitter into 2 seperate mixer channels (with 1 of them have a verb in its path), and you can have the reverb on its own mixer channel.

Ok, I will try this too later when have better time. Maybe I will should post later what I can achieve and you can maybe comment what direction I should go to achieve the right sound?

well, for the record, reverb when the kick is playing, is not the same length as the 2nd bit, with no kick. the first verb is longer, and the 2nd no kick bit is either a shorter verb, or its been gated (cut short with an effect), either way, i know what you want, so its probably better to send the verb to its own mixer track get a fast gated sound, using the decay setting on the rv7000 verb (if thats the right name).

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