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Tchaikovsky was gay

http://self.gutenberg.org/article/W...nd_school_years

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Sexuality Tchaikovsky had clear same-sex tendencies; some of the composer's closest relationships were with men.[92] He sought out the company of other same-sex attracted men in his circle for extended periods, "associating openly and establishing professional connections with them."[76] Relevant portions of his brother Modest's autobiography, where he tells of the composer's sexual orientation, have been published, as have letters previously suppressed by Soviet censors in which Tchaikovsky openly writes of it.[93] More debatable is how comfortable the composer felt with his sexual nature. There are currently two schools of thought. Musicologists such as David Brown have maintained that Tchaikovsky "felt tainted within himself, defiled by something from which he finally realized he could never escape."[94] Another group of scholars, which includes Alexander Poznansky and Roland John Wiley, have more recently suggested that the composer experienced "no unbearable guilt" over his sexual nature[76] and "eventually came to see his sexual peculiarities as an insurmountable and even natural part of his personality ... without experiencing any serious psychological damage."[95] Both groups agree that Tchaikovsky remained aware of the negative consequences should knowledge of his orientation become public, especially of the ramifications for his family. While his father continued to hope Tchaikovsky would marry (and may have been unaware of his son's orientation), other members of his loving and supportive family remained more open-minded. Modest shared his sexual orientation and became his literary collaborator, biographer and closest confidant. Tchaikovsky was eventually surrounded by an adoring group of male relatives and friends, which may have aided him in achieving some sort of psychological balance and inner acceptance of his sexual nature.[96] The level of official tolerance Tchaikovsky may have experienced, which could fluctuate depending on the broad-mindedness of the ruling Tsar, is also open to question. One argument is that general intolerance of same-sex orientation was the rule in 19th century Russia, punishable by imprisonment, loss of all rights, banishment to the provinces or exile from Russia altogether; therefore, Tchaikovsky's fear of social rejection was grounded in some justification.[97] Musicologist Solomon Volkov mentions state documents that indicate men attracted to the same sex "were under tight police surveillance" and maintains that public life in Russia was "based not on laws but on 'understandings.' That means that formally existing laws are applied or ignored based on the position and wishes of the authorities.... No one could feel confident of the future in those conditions (which is one of the goals of a society built on 'understandings')."[98] The other argument is that the Imperial bureaucracy was considerably less draconian in Tchaikovsky's lifetime than previously imagined. Russian society, with its surface veneer of Victorian propriety, may have been no less tolerant than the government.[99] In any case, Tchaikovsky chose not to neglect social convention and stayed conservative by nature.[100] His love life remained complicated. A combination of upbringing, timidity and deep commitment to relatives precluded his living openly with a male lover.[101] A similar blend of personal inclination and period decorum kept him from having sexual relations with those in his social circle.[102] He regularly sought out anonymous encounters, many of which he reported to Modest; at times, these brought feelings of remorse.[103] He also attempted to be discreet and adjust his tastes to the conventions of Russian society.[104] Nevertheless, many of his colleagues, especially those closest to him, may have either known or guessed his true sexual nature.[105] Tchaikovsky's decision to enter into a heterosexual union and try to lead a double life was prompted by several factors�the possibility of exposure, the willingness to please his father, his own desire for a permanent home and his love of children and family. There is no reason however to suppose that these personal travails impacted negatively on the quality of his musical inspiration or capacity.[76] An upcoming Russian film, Tchaikovsky,[106] has attracted controversy due to the fact that Tchaikovsky's sexuality, mentioned in early drafts, has been written out of the film in order to secure funding from the Russian government.[107]

Great.

Someone found wikipedia.

So was Alan Turing and Sir Isaac Newton

Rumors of George Washington who had no children and Abe Lincoln are not unheard of too.

Some People are gay. Get the fuck over it. Stop wearing that shit as a badge. I still had to kick ass in high school in order to get some respect.

It paid off

I used to steal my friends' underwear lol then again, why would they leave their underwear behind?

SO I COULD SMELL THEM! YUMMM

I would probably throw up if i had to smell another mans underwear

Who gives a shit?

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Originally posted by Lews Who gives a shit?

I was thinking the same thing.

Omg The Nutcracker now I get it !@#$

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Originally posted by Lagrangian I used to steal my friends' underwear lol then again, why would they leave their underwear behind? SO I COULD SMELL THEM! YUMMM

Ur a degenerate.

nods

Really? I read a book years ago - basically a translation of the correspondence between him Nadezhda von Meck, and it was plainly obvious there was a deep connection between them, even romantic. They actually specifically made it a point to never meet in person because they feared it would ruin their relationship.

Although I suppose and intellectual connection has nothing to do with sexuality, but still. I never would have thought he was a homosexual, if I had to base it on the letters in that book.

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Originally posted by Silky Johnson They actually specifically made it a point to never meet in person because they feared it would ruin their relationship. Although I suppose and intellectual connection has nothing to do with sexuality, but still. I never would have thought he was a homosexual, if I had to base it on the letters in that book.

he talks about his failing marriage. She was his sugar daddy. He eventually made reference to money arriving when letters would go. I only got the perception that he needed the money and she was a widow.

The uncensored letters that were released a few decades ago were spicy gay.

I know who she was. Doesn't change the tone or content of the letters.

well consider she was his boss
she was a widow
He was gay
he was gay in russia

how would you play it out ?

You are basically saying they had a friendship. Assume 2 girls are just chatting. It starts getting fabulous real quick.

You're gay aren't you? I guess you'd know best.

BOW BOW

Jay, Eric and I are the only straighties left.

theyve chang4d all the traffic stop lights to gay only in vienna

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIKotWGymhA

the gay is taking over.....

James Buchanan was gay. Lindsey Graham is gay and also wants to run for prez. Who cares?

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Originally posted by Silky Johnson You're gay aren't you? I guess you'd know best.

from what I've heard, Richie gets more trim that Eddie Murphy circa 1987. His last GF was a model and I can verify legit.

Because you are the same person.

We do share the dashing good looks, incredible hair, penchant for incredibly good looking women and drug tolerances of 70's drummers, but no, not the same person. He's all musical and got this pained artist thing going on and I'm all spock like with logic and shit.

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Originally posted by Silky Johnson You're gay aren't you? I guess you'd know best.

most would say a historian with access to letters disclosing sexuality would know best. Or if the guy is still alive, the person who is barebacking the fella.

Yeah but you can smell your own kind, non? It's ok, there's no shame in enjoying a cock up your ass. You seem like a bottom.

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