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Religion even now knowing about planets and space?

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Watching people, especially now in modern society with our updated knowledge, correlating wars to God is silly. Beyond the sky is space, not God. Who are they talking to or about?! Space is not god. The blue sky is not god. For aliens to come from outer space, seeing humans throwing missiles at each other on Earth and saying God, like God, if there is such an entity, has something to do with puny conflicts on planet Earth out of all of the other planets. There is no god. There's outer space. If you didn't know outside of Earth, beyond the blue sky, is outer space, then yeah, attribute your daily lives to this mystery you hypothesized as god aka the weather system aka the blue sky aka the volcanoes and other natural disasters on planet Earth. But we know there's outer space and we're on planet Earth, so saying God is just silly, more of out of habit or reflex nowadays than anything else. The weather is not god. The outcome of any conflict has nothing to do with god. Why would god, that supposedly created the universe and planets and stars and other living creatures, care about some humans on some obscure planet Earth in some far corner of the galaxy that's not even in the center of the universe?!

Science. God. Richard Dawkins. Atheism is so cool. Bible is a fairy tale.

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Originally posted by Alex Science. God. Richard Dawkins. Atheism is so cool. Bible is a fairy tale. /thread

It's not about being cool. My point was that isn't there a realization or dawning of the fact that outside of our sky is just space, and other planets and stars. Where's the god? Before our knowledge of space, it's understandable that people feed their mystery of volcanoes, weathers, natural disasters, lunar eclipse, solar eclipse, etc to god. Speaking to the heavens aka speaking to the sky, as if that's god. But now, shouldn't we know better?

Everyone knows what your point is. You're ranting like you just figured this out yourself.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Everyone knows what your point is. You're ranting like you just figured this out yourself.

True. That's not my intent though. But what about those Muslims and Christians and Jews etc? Why are there SO MANY people on planet Earth still into religion like it's science (for the dark ages) or something

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Originally posted by rainbowunicorn True. That's not my intent though. But what about those Muslims and Christians and Jews etc? Why are there SO MANY people on planet Earth still into religion like it's science (for the dark ages) or something

You're trying to get a rational explanation for human nature, which by its very nature is irrational.

Like, we're not supposed to go to space. There is nothing up there that supports our physical state of being. And yet, we go up there. Why? Because we're irrational. So it doesn't surprise me in the least millions of people do other irrational things like believe in magical sky fairies and the like.

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Originally posted by Sykonee fairies

Re: Religion even now knowing about planets and space?

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Originally posted by rainbowunicorn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vags3qz_cA8 Watching people, especially now in modern society with our updated knowledge, correlating wars to God is silly. Beyond the sky is space, not God. Who are they talking to or about?! Space is not god. The blue sky is not god. For aliens to come from outer space, seeing humans throwing missiles at each other on Earth and saying God, like God, if there is such an entity, has something to do with puny conflicts on planet Earth out of all of the other planets. There is no god. There's outer space. If you didn't know outside of Earth, beyond the blue sky, is outer space, then yeah, attribute your daily lives to this mystery you hypothesized as god aka the weather system aka the blue sky aka the volcanoes and other natural disasters on planet Earth. But we know there's outer space and we're on planet Earth, so saying God is just silly, more of out of habit or reflex nowadays than anything else. The weather is not god. The outcome of any conflict has nothing to do with god. Why would god, that supposedly created the universe and planets and stars and other living creatures, care about some humans on some obscure planet Earth in some far corner of the galaxy that's not even in the center of the universe?!

If this is the new face of atheism God is looking like a good option right about now

hail Poseidon

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Oh Juan, when are you going to learn?

this just got more weird.

I had all hose hardrives because of Thunderbolt daisy chain. And having storage away from computers. And triple redundancy. As well as quick hot swap.

Real fucking random.

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Originally posted by Sykonee You're trying to get a rational explanation for human nature, which by its very nature is irrational. Like, we're not supposed to go to space. There is nothing up there that supports our physical state of being. And yet, we go up there. Why? Because we're irrational. So it doesn't surprise me in the least millions of people do other irrational things like believe in magical sky fairies and the like.

Why and how is human nature by itself irrational?

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Originally posted by Alex If this is the new face of atheism God is looking like a good option right about now

atheism is not a religion. Only the religious have to prove there is a god in the first place. It's not a dichotomy logic of one or the other. You insist on the notion of a fictional character, then the onus is on you to prove it. You would rather be willfully ignorant and delusional?! God is as much an option as believing this is the matrix.

Once again, read my damn post. I never said atheism was a religion.

I was mocking you for sounding like a dumbass, not questioning the legitimacy of atheism or religion.

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Originally posted by Alex Once again, read my damn post. I never said atheism was a religion. I was mocking you for sounding like a dumbass, not questioning the legitimacy of atheism or religion.

"face of atheism" you dumb ass or do you need an explanation of your own writing?

You seem to think there is a face of atheism. Atheism is not a belief, like religion. There's no need for a "face" of atheism as there's no need for a "face" of reality, like there is for religion. The irony is you didn't read or comprehend my last post. If someone points to a tree and says that's a ghost behind the tree, then the burden of proof is on them to prove it, so it's their belief. If someone points to a tree and says that's a tree, then that's pointing the obvious reality. That's not a belief. That's reality. You bring up hypothetical notions, then you have to prove it. It doesn't automatically make it valid or equal to reality just by bringing up a hypothetical notion. Otherwise, anyone can bring up any idea and if you don't believe them, then you are "believing" in reality, as if the two are equally valid?

Dude.

You completely missed out on what my post was about.

I didn't make any claims, I didn't even present any arguments or anything.

The sole point to take away from my post was that you have the equivalent intelligence of a gorilla that they taught sign language to.

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Originally posted by Alex Dude. You completely missed out on what my post was about. I didn't make any claims, I didn't even present any arguments or anything. The sole point to take away from my post was that you have the equivalent intelligence of a gorilla that they taught sign language to.

Talking to you is like talking to a gorilla. You don't even understand your own writing, despite your failed point. The irony of you talking about intelligence. What is "face of atheism" to you?

BTW how old are you? Just curious.

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Originally posted by rainbowunicorn Talking to you is like talking to a gorilla. You don't even understand your own writing, despite your failed point. The irony of you talking about intelligence. What is "face of atheism" to you? BTW how old are you? Just curious.

I'm going to make this as clear as possible.

1) I insulted you because your views on atheism are primitive and boring.

2) When I joked about you being the "face of atheism" it was just that, a joke.

3) Many atheists would argue there is a face, or rather multiple faces, of atheism such as Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris etc. Not everyone agrees with that and that's fine, but at the very least these guys are (were in Hitchens' case) the faces of "new atheism".

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Why do you want to know my age? I'll inform you that I'm old enough for you not to be interested in me sexually.

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Originally posted by Alex I'm going to make this as clear as possible. 1) I insulted you because your views on atheism are primitive and boring. 2) When I joked about you being the "face of atheism" it was just that, a joke. 3) Many atheists would argue there is a face, or rather multiple faces, of atheism such as Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris etc. Not everyone agrees with that and that's fine, but at the very least these guys are (were in Hitchens' case) the faces of "new atheism".

Reasoning or critical thinking is lost on you for not understanding what you're inferring when you said "face of atheism" like atheism is a religion or something to you, and turn around, denying your allegation of atheism being a religion. It's not a belief, like religion is! Oh well. Your loss. Stay ignorant.

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Originally posted by Alex EDIT: Why do you want to know my age? I'll inform you that I'm old enough for you not to be interested in me sexually.

WTF?! Even your comeback is childish.

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Originally posted by rainbowunicorn Reasoning or critical thinking is lost on you for not understanding what you're inferring when you said "face of atheism" like atheism is a religion or something to you, and turn around, denying your allegation of atheism being a religion. It's not a belief, like religion is! Oh well. Your loss. Stay ignorant. WTF?! Even your comeback is childish.

So is asking me my age so that you can dismiss/insult me.

And again, not saying atheism is a religion, but even movements can have a "face". And NEW atheism qualifies as a movement.

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Originally posted by Alex So is asking me my age so that you can dismiss/insult me.

Didn't I say "Just curious"? Don't jump to conclusions and presume.

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Originally posted by Alex And again, not saying atheism is a religion, but even movements can have a "face". And NEW atheism qualifies as a movement.

Reality has or needs a "face" now?

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Originally posted by rainbowunicorn Didn't I say "Just curious"? Don't jump to conclusions and presume. Reality has or needs a "face" now?

Come on man. Saying atheism is reality can't be objectively proved and you know it.

Science is all about reality and there are many "faces" of science.

Maybe using the word "face" isn't the word we should be using.

How about "prominent figure" or something like that?

And although you used the word "curious", you dismissed me about 3 minutes ago in another thread by calling me a kid. So you knew you were using it as an insult.

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Originally posted by Alex Come on man. Saying atheism is reality can't be objectively proved and you know it. Science is all about reality and there are many "faces" of science. Maybe using the word "face" isn't the word we should be using. How about "prominent figure" or something like that?

The point is there shouldn't be a leader needed to persuade people to reality.

Instead of me explaining to you the difference between reality vs religion again, I'll just copy and paste the past post:

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Originally posted by rainbowunicorn If someone points to a tree and says that's a ghost behind the tree, then the burden of proof is on them to prove it, so it's their belief. If someone points to a tree and says that's a tree, then that's pointing the obvious reality. That's not a belief. That's reality. You bring up hypothetical notions, then you have to prove it. It doesn't automatically make it valid or equal to reality just by bringing up a hypothetical notion. Otherwise, anyone can bring up any idea and if you don't believe them, then you are "believing" in reality, as if the two are equally valid?

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Originally posted by Alex And although you used the word "curious", you dismissed me about 3 minutes ago in another thread by calling me a kid. So you knew you were using it as an insult.

To gauge your intellect, so I know to continue to talk to you or not, since we can't tell on the internet.

Ok, I agree that a theist has something to prove.

But I disagree that atheism can be objectively called reality, especially since there are so many types of atheists out there.

New atheists seem to like to argue that God does not exist, therefore they have to provide evidence that God does not exist based on physics, biology, philosophy, logic etc.

It is a "belief" to say God does not exist because while a theist can't prove he does exist (without resorting to personal experience), an atheist that is sure God doesn't exist cannot prove that God doesn't exist.

We should have clarified which types of atheists we were talking about here, and believe me there are a lot of different atheistic views out there. It's becoming an umbrella term, and you never know the opinions or proofs that a certain atheist adheres to.

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