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Posted by NightShade1 on Oct-28-2002 01:01:

Do you think Trance is comercial shit?

Well im asking cause some ppl in a forum in my country is saying it ummm
one of them said that they are projects that they made to sell...

what do you think of this???
if he is right or not???


Posted by tranceman78 on Oct-28-2002 01:48:

Well, as far as trance goes in the US it can't be commercial cause nobody fucking knows about it. Trance is about as underground as you can get here.

And as for trance being made just to make money, I'd say that 90% of music is made for the purpose of making money. You think Britney Spears is making music because she really likes the way that her cheesy shit shounds?


Posted by torontotrance on Oct-28-2002 01:50:

Certain trance has gone mainstream and commercial and certain trance is underground. There will always be both i believe.


Posted by Fast Turtle on Oct-28-2002 02:01:

trance is by far the most above ground electronic genre in the US...some of it is ripoffs and some of it original...


Posted by Stories on Oct-28-2002 02:22:

Yes like DJ Nuclear said, trance is by far the most 'above ground' form of electronic in the US, however, trance is still widely unknown to people across the nation. Most people call it all 'techno' and think anything that is electronic is 'techno'. I just go along with it though and nod my head... It's just that everyone thinks that DJ Sammy, Darude, DJ Encore and the rest are all what all 'techno' sounds like... but I have a feeling it'll take a long time before (if ever) trance becomes mainstream in the US.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Oct-28-2002 02:27:

Id say it depends where you live

if your from europe.. i would say that trance would probably be more commercial than any other country, since it is predominant there

here in canada and the US it would be more underground ish.. some of the stuff becomes sapped and commercial, eg sammy & yanou - heaven, public domain operation blade, voodoo serano blood is puming, and sandstorm


none the less. it shouldnt really matter whether or not hte music is underground or commercial.. your suppose to like the music cause you like it.. not because everyone else doesnt


and im not saying that that applies to you or anyone.. just a little reminder....

I love club trance and that wont change for a while i dont think!... Im a semi euro junkie as well


"give me the joyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.. oh baby! ONLY you.. can bring the power.. the power.. OWOAAOH.. only you .. can take me higher.. take me higher OWAAOH"

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Posted by Cyberwoo on Oct-28-2002 02:30:

As with any other genre of music there are good tunes and there are bad. Why does this come as a surprise to you people? Its like some people expect ALL trance tunes to be A+ top quality stuff. Lets face it. Most DJ's and producers suck alot of ass. There are only a select few that really put out quality stuff time and time again. So enough complaining about the "mainstreaming" of trance or electronic music in general. There was crap trance when it started, there is crap trance now, and there will be crap trance in the future. Deal with it.

To be honest with you I dont really follow the trance scene that much anymore anyway. I've been into prog house and prog trance for the past few years I dont see that changing anytime soon. Plenty of great tunes in those sub-genres. It still has that underground feel even though the popularity has grown alot these past couple of years (especially this last year). I still like a good melodic trance tune every now and then but they are becoming few and far between. Peace.


Posted by drewfactor on Oct-28-2002 02:46:

I agree with the posts above. In Canada and the US trance is still pretty much underground. I was in Europe in the summer and Trance seemed to have come and gone and everyone was into other genres. Even prog seemed to be outdated and pretty much as commercial as other trance, at least in the UK. I over there, the techno and UK hardhouse was the stuff that was getting a lot of attention. I think I'll always be true to trance though, I still love it and I'm still discovering wicked tracks all the time. I also like spinning trance at the end of a prog or more tribally set and build up to it more as opposed to banging out trance anthem after anthem.
Just my opinion


Posted by Joca on Oct-28-2002 03:03:

I like trance and that's all that matters. I don't give a fuck what you or anyone else thinks.


Posted by THE_Chris on Oct-28-2002 13:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Carona
I like trance and that's all that matters. I don't give a fuck what you or anyone else thinks.


Harsh, but this has to be the most meaningful post of them all here.

If you like Trance, then good.

If you dont like it, then that ok too. Your decision.


Posted by noikeee on Oct-28-2002 14:34:

quote:
Do you think Trance is comercial shit?


no. but it isn't the deeper shit.


Posted by verminator on Oct-28-2002 14:37:

yes


Posted by libra_1143 on Oct-28-2002 14:38:

As for shit, NO, or else I wouldn't be here.

But commercial. Depends what you mean by commercial. I would agree and say that in some places, trance is more commercial, as in the meaning of being more publically available. It's all good tho, cos different people are into different areas of trance.


Posted by USMC_Greg on Oct-28-2002 15:53:

IMO whether or not a certain genre is commercial or not is irrelevant. All that matters is that you like the music. I don't like trance to try and be different. I like trance because of the way it makes me feel.


Posted by Sand Leaper on Oct-28-2002 16:00:

quote:
originally posted by verminator
yes


And this comes from someone who listens to every mix from DJ Dawn,and requested Lee Haslam - Music Is The Drug and a K90 Remix.... Did anyone say hypocrite?


Posted by torontotrance on Oct-28-2002 16:03:

Then again....vermi listens to that hard techno stuff almost 24/7


Posted by verminator on Oct-28-2002 16:04:

hehe

just wanted to see what ppl said

anyways, when i request stuff its usually for peeps i know who doesnt waste so much time on the internet as me /me is a nice guy hihih

quote:
taken from IRC a min ago

[17:07] * vermi12 listens to Dj Rush & Recyver Dogs - Live at True Spirit (15-03-2002) (382:02/192)


Posted by KristineClub on Oct-28-2002 16:15:

Re: Do you think Trance is comercial shit?

quote:
Originally posted by NightShade1
what do you think of this???

Umm, well jeez, I guess that depends on if it is commercial Trance that you're talking about. I mean, there's plenty quality Trance out there but, just like with any genre, there's plenty of crappy commercial cheese too. It's just like with real old school Hip Hop- it used to come from the soul but these days MOST of it is made just to get a nigga rich (no offense to anyone). Therefore, it would be an ignorant statement to say that ALL Trance is commercial shit. It's totally legit for someone to say, "I don't like Trance" just like me saying that I don't like Hip Hop. But just because I don't like any Hip Hop, I'm not going to say that it is all commercial crap. I can agree that SOME of it actually has a meaningful message but I still don't listen to it because it's not my style. To get my message across clearly; FU** anyone who says all Trance is commercial.


Posted by KristineClub on Oct-28-2002 16:19:

quote:
Originally posted by tranceman78
Well, as far as trance goes in the US it can't be commercial cause nobody fucking knows about it. Trance is about as underground as you can get here.


I assume you're speaking for your state and not your country because here in Atl, Trance is getting pretty damn popular. It's the most popular form of Electronica here.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Oct-28-2002 17:49:

quote:
Originally posted by _The_Storm_
no. but it isn't the deeper shit.



What do you mean? what would you consider deeper? you shouldnt make direct comments like that without saying IMO


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Oct-28-2002 17:51:

quote:
Originally posted by KristineClub
I assume you're speaking for your state and not your country because here in Atl, Trance is getting pretty damn popular. It's the most popular form of Electronica here.


Im pretty sure house is more popular than trance in the US i know junle is probably the most popular here in toronto.. followed by house... then somewhere comes trance.. besides there arent many good trance producers in the US compared to other genres... that should be a factor in deciding the popularity of the music.. who persues it..


Posted by KristineClub on Oct-28-2002 18:00:

quote:
Originally posted by KristineClub
It's the most popular form of Electronica here.


When I said 'here' I was referring to here in Atlanta. When you go to a club here (not a rave), you hear Alice Deejay, Sandstorm, etc. Jungle is getting pretty popular though but it's still not as mainstream as trance.


Posted by b|p|3m on Oct-28-2002 19:46:

If a genre or a song is good is good also is considered commercial shit. And then there are also people that like commercial shit. I don't think that they' re all stupid...


Posted by tranceman78 on Oct-28-2002 21:24:

quote:
Originally posted by KristineClub
When I said 'here' I was referring to here in Atlanta. When you go to a club here (not a rave), you hear Alice Deejay, Sandstorm, etc. Jungle is getting pretty popular though but it's still not as mainstream as trance.


I can go to a club here and hear stuff like Alice Deejay, Ian Van Dahl, Darude, etc... but I wouldn't take that as a sign of trance getting popular. I see it as catchy Pop-Trance that is getting played on the radio, so people want to hear it in the clubs. Trance may be popular in some areas(Miami, New York, etc...), but it's certainly not a nationwide phenomenon. Now I know Tiesto, Oakenfold and others spin across the US, but if you compare the crowds they draw to the crowds someone like Nelly or Britney Spears draws you'll see that trance has a long way to go in this country. When you can travel to Nebraska and hear Armin, Ferry, or Tiesto on the radio then I'll consider trance to be commercial in the United States. That doesn't mean I won't listen to it anymore.


Posted by Verona^My on Oct-29-2002 00:32:

Re: Do you think Trance is comercial shit?

quote:
Originally posted by NightShade1
Well im asking cause some ppl in a forum in my country is saying it ummm
one of them said that they are projects that they made to sell...

what do you think of this???
if he is right or not???


anything that sounds like Out of the Blue by Ferry Corsten and those other eurotrance riff artists, yes.

Psytrance is the least commercial, they never play it on the radio and it's better than european trance.

European trance is only good for a synthpop influence, IMO.


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