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Anyone see the news that new generation cpus will only run on Windows 10. I can't say it effects me but I can't help but feel Microsoft has gone too far in their campaign to shove 10 down your throat.

Well Direct X12 is exclusive to Win 10 and that was launched back in July. I wonder whats gonna happen in China, since they have their own government-backdoored operating system they're trying to roll out.

It's odd that they've obsoleted 8.1 considering it's only a couple of years old.

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Originally posted by Jon_Snow Anyone see the news that new generation cpus will only run on Windows 10. I can't say it effects me but I can't help but feel Microsoft has gone too far in their campaign to shove 10 down your throat.

Not true at all, it has to do with new enterprise machine and tech support. All new machines with the new cpu using windows older than 10 will only have 18 month support in enterprise.It has zero to do with consumer or new cpu not able to run older version of windows.

Did you read this news from Engadget? It was horrible butchered article.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/micros...ire-windows-10/

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Originally posted by junkproject Not true at all, it has to do with new enterprise machine and tech support. All new machines with the new cpu using windows older than 10 will only have 18 month support in enterprise.It has zero to do with consumer or new cpu not able to run older version of windows. Did you read this news from Engadget? It was horrible butchered article. http://www.zdnet.com/article/micros...ire-windows-10/

Must have been. I get most of my news off my phone using google news link.

Terrible journalism if you can call it that. Misleading subject lines to get you to click then patch work of copy paste paragraphs while being bombarded with popup ads.

Dislike Windows 10.

I've been thinking of putting it on my laptop, but still haven't gotten around to it. I'm still on Windows 7, and honestly, I'm perfectly happy with it as an operating system.

It was a bit buggy in the first month that it came out, but it's been pretty good since then. It's even faster than windows 8.1. It doesn't really have much new going for it over 8 than speed, but 8 introduced a lot of very useful features.

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Originally posted by Sushipunk I've been thinking of putting it on my laptop, but still haven't gotten around to it. I'm still on Windows 7, and honestly, I'm perfectly happy with it as an operating system.

There's no real need to change from 7 other than the inevitable lack of support somewhere down the line. That being said, 10 is a very solid OS.

Since November you can install W10 using W7 codes without doing an upgrade but a clean install.
At work I think I'll even image some Win7 pc's, then install W10 to register the key while it's still free and put the image back.
It annoys me that I have more difficulty to find certain settings, maybe just a matter of time to get used. Looks like two layers on top of each other. I still prefer XP were I just knew to find it all, I don't need all the fancy looks.
As W10 is supported much longer switching to W10 still is the best option. It's quick and stable.

I have 10 on a Asus Zenbook UX305 at home, but nothing at work yet. I have no real complaints about speed/functionality with 10. The Zenbook has a 256GB SSD along with 8GB of RAM, and it boots in like 5 seconds.

My only real gripe about 10 is this: fuck me, why does everything now have to be so chatty with/dependent on "the cloud"? I guess it's the old "get off my lawn"/cynical bastard in me, but I don't want to depend on the cloud. I grew up in a time when all your data was local and transferred mostly by sneaker-net. There will be a part of me that will always hold on to that and distrust the cloud. Hell, I don't even use Netflix for streaming. I'm a physical disc guy. It's silly, I admit, but in my mind as long as the player spins up and the TV powers on I'm good. I doubt I will ever shed the notion in my mind that at any given time "the cloud" could become unreliable or just "go away". YES, THIS IS SILLY.

The other gripe I have about 10 is how MS is just throat fucking everyone on this upgrade. OMG J00 NEED IT, BABY! Let me nag you multiple times per day! It just feels to me like there's an ulterior motive somewhere. I hate to be all conspiracy minded, but I'll kiss your ass and give you 2 weeks to draw a crowd if there isn't some sort of law enforcement "back door" in 10 for decryption purposes or something of that nature. Granted, this could be true of ANY operating system or program. If you can't read assembly language, then you don't know wtf is in any program, so this is not unique to Win 10 being closed source. Hell, Redhat Linux could be full of back doors for all I know, as I can't read a line of code. I dunno...10 just feels strange to me.

I'll go back to my basement, which is wrapped in tin foil, now.

From what I understand Microsoft wants to use 10 as a platform to sell you things ie Apple's app store. It might go as far as the Google model that tracks what you do then sends targeted ads based on your activities to suggest things you might like to purchased.

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Originally posted by Jon_Snow From what I understand Microsoft wants to use 10 as a platform to sell you things ie Apple's app store. It might go as far as the Google model that tracks what you do then sends targeted ads based on your activities to suggest things you might like to purchased.

I agree, this probably the biggest motivator of all when it comes to the additional "telemetry" data Win 10 is sending to various MS-owned domains. But, still, the old/get-off-my-lawn conspiracy nut in me can't help but wonder what else MS has baked into 10 to assist certain 3-letter organizations. Again, I have no evidence whatsoever to support this other than my Spideysenses tingling.

The reason they're dicontinuing 8.1 is that it was a steaming pile of shit.

It couldn't decide if it was tablet OS a laptop OS or a deskptop OS and managed to fuck up the experience on each platform because of the others.

If you want to see a really detailed thread about Windows 10:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...8&#.Vp7bfcArLzU

Windows 10 what 8.1 should have been (and M$ have even now admitted that).

Every OS these days is designed to peddle their own wares. OSX does, Android Does, Windows always has, and due to the laws monopolies and anti-trust (which microsoft have fallen foul of many times), they are easy as shit to switch off. In fact you can disable all the M$ options during installation with about a dozen click switches.

Windows 10 is the best OS since XP, and M$ know it which i why we won't see another OS from them in at least another decade.

I upgraded to 10 a couple days ago and have enjoyed it so far; it was quite easy to turn off many of the features I didn't want.

It's crap.

I can't finish solving one problem when a new one arises. Just yesterday the taskbar froze after the displays were off. Now I have to figure out why and then by the time I solve that I will have to deal with a new issue.

I'd rather use 8.1, which has been stabilized for my PC for awhile now, than to continue troubleshooting W10. That thing has been scary and unstable since it's Beta testing.

I will continue to hold as much as possible in other laptops until W10 changes its philosophy on privacy and update settings. Those things are ridiculous. The latest release of Fedora is by far more practical than W10. When one has to do less troubleshooting for a linux distro than for a windows release, that says a lot about both.

I don't think I've had a single crash or freeze during the entire time I've used 10.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery I don't think I've had a single crash or freeze during the entire time I've used 10.

I'm in the same position. I don't know quite know what you're doing sensorium, but if Linux is easier that w10, you're definitely not doing it right.

10 is built on the backbone of 8.1 without the cluster fuck of trying to be 3 different os's.

so after reading this thread i finally bit the bullet and upgraded. very happy with it (which mostly means yes, all my games run fine ). i also like some of the slightly modified options, like being able to increase the size of the UI on the fly to suit my TV. looks like im back to winamp though; ditched 'groove' due to lack of drag and drop (wtf microsoft??).

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN so after reading this thread i finally bit the bullet and upgraded. very happy with it (which mostly means yes, all my games run fine ). i also like some of the slightly modified options, like being able to increase the size of the UI on the fly to suit my TV. looks like im back to winamp though; ditched 'groove' due to lack of drag and drop (wtf microsoft??).

Winamp is one of the first programs I install after any OS refresh.

i just updated to it from 8.1 from reading this thread. and its way better...and faster...and cooler

Finally did the upgrade and feels much smoother. 8.1 was pretty terrible, reminds me of a modern Windows ME. My laptop always felt sluggish with 8.1 and can tell immediate difference overall.



Also glad I didn't have to back-up everything either.

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