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Posted by dj tek on Oct-29-2002 17:04:

Way Too Much $$$$$

Im really gettin fucking sick of these ridiculous prices clubs are charging for big djs.... $40 $50 $60!!!!! its so disgusting... i mean, its DJs...they play records.. one after another!! some do it flawlessly and create journeys but it still aint worth no $50... back when twilo had S&D and PvD.. it was $35($30 w' guestlist..) and besides those 2 events, everyone else(Cox, Hawtin, Deep Dish etc..) was $25... im sorry for bitching but i think its just ridiculous paying $50+ to go clubbing.. i mean Underworld show, which they play LIVE(which is way harder to do.. if u been to a live electronica show, u know what i mean..) was $36.. and it had the best visuals\lighting, promotions, staff, crowd, vibe.. just everything was perfect...sorry if i sound retarded but its just the way i feel..after pvd, no more paying ridiculous amount of loot to go clubbing...(well at least for me..)


Posted by Taub on Oct-29-2002 17:09:

Gready bastids i tell ya!!! we all should boycot!!!!!


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Posted by b i n k u n on Oct-29-2002 17:14:

i gotta agree w/ u on that one....but honestly, it's only here that they charge sooooo damn much! ferry/tiesto and all other big names go for like 10/15 pounds over in london..(equivalent of like 20 bucks or so) so..it makes me wonder if it's the promoter/club owner ppl that are charging all that excess cuz it's so money-driven here as opposed to music-driven over in london. i mean...a plane ticket across the atlantic ain't that much more expensive...i dun really understand why the big name djs would charge that much more just cuz it's NYC or somethin'. so i'm putting my bet on the greedy owners and management people. my opinion only...


Posted by dj tek on Oct-29-2002 17:18:

quote:
Originally posted by b i n k u n
i gotta agree w/ u on that one....but honestly, it's only here that they charge sooooo damn much! ferry/tiesto and all other big names go for like 10/15 pounds over in london..(equivalent of like 20 bucks or so) so..it makes me wonder if it's the promoter/club owner ppl that are charging all that excess cuz it's so money-driven here as opposed to music-driven over in london. i mean...a plane ticket across the atlantic ain't that much more expensive...i dun really understand why the big name djs would charge that much more just cuz it's NYC or somethin'. so i'm putting my bet on the greedy owners and management people. my opinion only...



exactly.... only in nyc its like that, which blows bigtime.. thats why im gettin the fuck outta here


Posted by push01 on Oct-29-2002 17:41:

Yes I do remember the Twilo days but in NY PvD spins for around 6-7 hrs. Most other places it is 2-3. I think $40 for 6 hrs is better than $25 for 3 hours. You just gotta get em in advance.
Too bad I heard from "Visions of PvD" and made events that tickets are now $50 and at the door it will be $60. It is pure economics: demand exceeds supply = prices go up....which is why Sasha tix went down. For some reason not enough demand.


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Oct-29-2002 17:59:

can i get a amen~!


Posted by amdmaxx on Oct-29-2002 19:21:

Has nothing to do with greed of owners, all of ya..
Obviously none of u passed economics in college, or didnt get there yet..
This is simple called market Calls.. Simple bell curve.. Demand meets need..
If tix were around $20, then U would have 10000000000 people trying to see PVD... and u have chaos...
They know TONS of people wanna see PVD, and will do, no matter what price, so they raise the ticket price through the roof..
They still gonna get the ROXY maxed out...
Simple rules of economics...
feel free to boycott.. 20 kids are rite behind u waiting to fill your spot..


Posted by Durafei on Oct-29-2002 19:36:

Art, I beg to differ
Ticket prices to see a DJ such as PVD here in Toronto in a venue that's not worse then Roxy, are never higher than 25USD. And I'm pretty sure PVD charges same in Canada as he does in US.

Of course Toronto is not as expensive as New York, but I doubt everything is twice cheaper here. Hm.. maybe paying off law-officers in US is where all the money goes.

Anyways, I think 50USD for PVD is a bit ridiculous. Isn't that how much a concert usually costs, even though concerts are much more expensive to organise. I personally don't know how a university student can afford that. Thank God my school has co-op, otherwise I'd be sitting here in TO counting my last 2 cents. Others may not be so lucky.


Posted by amit on Oct-29-2002 19:52:

glow= 15 dollars...sometimes 10 dollars :P


Posted by dj tek on Oct-29-2002 20:25:

quote:
Originally posted by amit
glow= 15 dollars...sometimes 10 dollars :P


yeah...everywhere else besides nyc is cheaper.. even LA


Posted by Choobak on Oct-29-2002 21:26:

New York just has the market to charge such high prices.. lots of rich folks everywhere... and if you think New York's bad, you should go to Tokyo... if you're a guy you're probably looking at $50 to get into Velfarre or whatever on a regular night....


Posted by ExcelonGT on Oct-30-2002 00:57:

This is just the effect of capitalization of the clubbing scene. I bet some officials/politicians are being paid off to turn their heads so clubs stay open. But another factor is these Dj's need to start charging a little less. Does PVD realy NEED $50,000 for 6 hours? this is not good for the scene


Posted by Dekan on Oct-30-2002 02:27:

Here in Miami wwe get in for free for PVD etc.

AND IT HURTS THE FUCKING SCENE, Now we have no more trance nights because no one pays for the djs, Louis Puig the owner of probably one of the best clubs in the world (Space)has to close fridays night w/ Edgar as Resident and DJs (Marco V, gielen etc) WTF. People here dont go to see Edgar V for Free. I will Pay 50 Dollars for Marco V on the 28th and also Djs in LOndon spin for 2hrs, for them to do 5 hrs (EVERYONE @ SPACE DOES) its worth 40 bucks.


Posted by stringfelowhawk on Oct-30-2002 05:52:

quote:
Originally posted by kid nyce
can i get a amen~!


no, but you can get AN amen


Posted by stringfelowhawk on Oct-30-2002 05:55:

quote:
Originally posted by push01
Yes I do remember the Twilo days but in NY PvD spins for around 6-7 hrs. Most other places it is 2-3. I think $40 for 6 hrs is better than $25 for 3 hours. You just gotta get em in advance.
Too bad I heard from "Visions of PvD" and made events that tickets are now $50 and at the door it will be $60. It is pure economics: demand exceeds supply = prices go up....which is why Sasha tix went down. For some reason not enough demand.


I'll agree for Boston definately and DC to some extent... but Space in Miami has parties that go into the afternoon the next day and it still doesn't cost as much as NY. Plus Spaces sound system is fawkin ridiculous!


Posted by rubyriva on Oct-30-2002 13:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Dekan
Here in Miami wwe get in for free for PVD etc.

AND IT HURTS THE FUCKING SCENE, Now we have no more trance nights because no one pays for the djs, Louis Puig the owner of probably one of the best clubs in the world (Space)has to close fridays night w/ Edgar as Resident and DJs (Marco V, gielen etc) WTF. People here dont go to see Edgar V for Free. I will Pay 50 Dollars for Marco V on the 28th and also Djs in LOndon spin for 2hrs, for them to do 5 hrs (EVERYONE @ SPACE DOES) its worth 40 bucks.


i didn't get in for free for PvD at space...tell me how!!

and the prices in nyc are ridiculous!!!

i can go to canada and and see any special guest dj at the guv on sat night for a max of $15 canadian which is really around $9 u.s. $9 to see armin and scott bond kind of djs. maximum price i have ever seen for a cover charge is $25 canadian.

we are being RAPED in nyc! i just paid 54.50 to buy a friend a ticket to pvd at roxy. and the horrid thing is, the clubs aren't that good! nyc club owners need to take a trip to toronto and montreal to see how to really throw a party!

just my $.02


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Oct-30-2002 13:41:

its gonna be PACKED


Posted by push01 on Oct-30-2002 13:43:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by stringfelowhawk
I'll agree for Boston definately and DC to some extent... but Space in Miami has parties that go into the afternoon the next day and it still doesn't cost as much as NY. Plus Spaces sound system is fawkin ridiculous! [/QUOTE

The thing is the cost of living in NY is much greater than most of the United States, and most of the world for that matter. It is not only clubbing that is more expensive here: how about rent? drinks? eating out? everything costs more here. Clubbing is not exempt from that. And as an owner of a business (i.e club owner) I would charge as much as I think I could in order to net me the highest profit. WHy is a clubowner any different from a restuarant owner? It is America--the land of opportunity and capitalism. Should these owners worry about how it is hurting the scene? c'mon. The way I see it these owners know that PvD will attract such a large demand that if a few people are turned off by the high prices it, it isnt a problem because the demand is so great that there are many others that will take their place. And they know this because of past history and present. PvD tix are almost sold out.


Posted by rubyriva on Oct-30-2002 14:14:

yes, but it used to be $35 to see pvd at twilo...

and normally $30 cover charge for regular nights at twilo and other clubs too...even less.

over the past year, prices have skyrocketed. and they can do this because we keep paying it. heh, i'm one of 'em. and if i didn't, someone else would.

it's all about money. that's why we all need to get good jobs so we can afford all this and keep up with the times

it sucks, and the only thing we can do is suck it up and deal, or go to other cities to party.


Posted by dj tek on Oct-30-2002 14:49:

quote:
Originally posted by rubyriva

and normally $30 cover charge for regular nights at twilo and other clubs too...even less.



yeah... Carl Cox was $30 but u can always get on the guestlist and pay $25, and other nights were $25 flat.... after twilo closed down, promoters are taking advantage of clubbers....sad but true..


Posted by amdmaxx on Oct-30-2002 14:49:

exactly..

quote:
Originally posted by rubyriva
yes, but it used to be $35 to see pvd at twilo...

and normally $30 cover charge for regular nights at twilo and other clubs too...even less.

over the past year, prices have skyrocketed. and they can do this because we keep paying it. heh, i'm one of 'em. and if i didn't, someone else would.

it's all about money. that's why we all need to get good jobs so we can afford all this and keep up with the times

it sucks, and the only thing we can do is suck it up and deal, or go to other cities to party.


Posted by stringfelowhawk on Oct-30-2002 16:51:

Hopefully when Crobar opens up it will be able to keep prices relatively lower than other clubs due to its huge capacity. We just need one club to do it then the others would realize they don't have to pay ridiculous prices to party to good music. Yes, NY is more expensive with everything but you can see solid talent at smaller clubs like Centro for around $25. Just sucks that the places that get the names I like are the ones that want to abuse people cuz they can.


Posted by amdmaxx on Oct-30-2002 16:58:

Queens?
Planned capacity is?

quote:
Originally posted by stringfelowhawk
Hopefully when Crobar opens up it will be able to keep prices relatively lower than other clubs due to its huge capacity. We just need one club to do it then the others would realize they don't have to pay ridiculous prices to party to good music. Yes, NY is more expensive with everything but you can see solid talent at smaller clubs like Centro for around $25. Just sucks that the places that get the names I like are the ones that want to abuse people cuz they can.



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