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Posted by TranceSeeker on Oct-30-2002 15:39:

Airdrawndagger overrated IMO

No flaming plz, but am I the only one who dare to say add is way overrated. The album doesn't flow well enough to keep my attention throughout it, so everytime I listen halfway through it I just put it off cuz it bores me. Just wanna say most tracks on it are quality but the album in his "whole" is very dissapointing imo.
I think if the album wasn't done by "Sasha" not even 1/4th of the people who like it now, would have liked it...

Just my opinion.


[edit]
I heard this album is made as a single track album and not as a mix...So I put my words back then, he'd better just put all the tracks apart then, like bunkka, I always thought it was a "mix".


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Oct-30-2002 15:56:

You must've been listening to some other album...


Posted by Magnus on Oct-30-2002 16:05:

TranceSeeker I'm with you on this one. I will admit it does grow on me the more I listen to it however.


Posted by Kinde on Oct-30-2002 16:07:

It's been my most played cd for over two months... I don't seem to get bored of it. I could live without Immortal though...


Posted by webbie on Oct-30-2002 17:04:

Hm, thats sad to hear because I think its such a masterpiece, an absolute work of art.
I downloaded with doubt Wavy Gravy as a single because I had earlier had some bad experiences
with Sasha, just too progressive for me I thought.

Oh how wrong I was and after that point I have been buying singles that he uses in his
gigs and downloading sets that he takes part in. Can't say that ADD wouldnt have been as
good if Sasha hadnt put his name on it, it wouldnt have gotten as much attention as in
"Its SASHAs new album!" but I would still have liked it.

That was how I got into Deep Dish, by their cds.


Posted by Bedrock on Oct-30-2002 17:17:

yeah it is

some good tracks tho


Posted by DennisF on Oct-30-2002 17:17:

oh common not anthoer thread about: am i the only one who doenst like......very poor


Posted by TranceSeeker on Oct-30-2002 18:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Stiffmaster
oh common not anthoer thread about : am i the only one who doenst like......very poor


What's so poor about it then?
Plz explain....


BTW I heard this album is made as a single track album and not as a mix...So I put my words back then, he'd better just put all the tracks apart then, like bunkka, I always thought it was a "mix".


Posted by speedracer_mec on Oct-30-2002 18:07:

Talking

nice album...but the problem wit it is dat it has ONE FEELING TO IT..not like a variety of moods which could be a good thing or bad


Posted by Ste on Oct-30-2002 18:31:

Re: Airdrawndagger overrated IMO

quote:
Originally posted by TranceSeeker
I think if the album wasn't done by "Sasha" not even 1/4th of the people who like it now, would have liked it...


took the words riiiiight out of my mouth


Posted by torontotrance on Oct-30-2002 18:34:

Sasha did it with massive help from charlie may and junkie XL...nothing close to xpander then again this is the older sasha. Amazing disc..sure beats most of what progressive deejays come up with these days.


Posted by Proximus on Oct-30-2002 18:35:

first of all, i think its poorly produced, sounds kinda amateurish.
all of the tracks are also produced by tom holkenborg and charlie may,

trust me, take me in the studio with tom holkenborg and charlie may and i'll bring you the best tunes you've ever seen.

and don't flame me, i adore prog house more then anything in the world and ADD is just to overrated and to poorly produced for my taste.


Posted by Proximus on Oct-30-2002 18:38:

oh and by the way, sasha is one of the best DJ's i've seen,, producer tho... =)


Posted by TranceSeeker on Oct-30-2002 18:46:

Well I made the same thread on the gu board, and someone says that was meant to be a whole, "flow", so I'm dissapointed then...
The first 4 tracks succed in flowing well but then the mix falls apart.


Posted by webbie on Oct-30-2002 18:50:

Yes, Sasha had some good help with his album.
But almost all artist has help to produce tracks so its not so strange that sasha had help on his.

But you can ask yourself IF the sound in the tunes would have been the same without Sasha, I think not.


Posted by CortexBomb on Oct-30-2002 18:51:

Man, I don't even like Prog for the most part, but add is on my favourite albums of all time list...

It's hard to explain why it's good if you don't groove on it, I personally love the sound though, Wavy Gravy and Requiem are remarkable, and the rest of the album has a nice varied sound that just flows along.

Nothing wrong with disliking it though, there's no such thing as a song or album that *everyone* likes.


Posted by uberclkgtr on Oct-30-2002 20:18:

Re: Airdrawndagger overrated IMO

i really like the sasha album. not all the tracks on it are dancefloor friendly, but as electronic music, it stays interesting and varied throughout the entire album. much better than most EDM artist albums i've heard, exceptions being royksopp, thievery corporation and layo & bushwacka.

quote:
Originally posted by TranceSeeker I heard this album is made as a single track album and not as a mix...So I put my words back then, he'd better just put all the tracks apart then, like bunkka, I always thought it was a "mix".


The CD of ADD is a continuous mix, but the vinyl release has the tracks unmixed for DJs, like most EDM artists albums.


Posted by Kinde on Oct-30-2002 20:34:

quote:
first of all, i think its poorly produced, sounds kinda amateurish.

I totally disagree. The production is absolutely top notch all the way. I mean this wasn't any rush job to cash in on a big single and these guys certainly know what they are doing. You can really appreciate the production when you listen to this with good headphones...

quote:
trust me, take me in the studio with tom holkenborg and charlie may and i'll bring you the best tunes you've ever seen..

Yeah, right... and if this album is so poorly produced why are you saying that you would come up with the best tracks ever should you have a chance to work with Charlie and Tom??

quote:
I think if the album wasn't done by "Sasha" not even 1/4th of the people who like it now, would have liked it...

Is it so hard to believe that there are a lot of people who genuinely like this? That being said, it's true that the album has gotten much more attention because of Sasha but there's nothing wrong with that. And I also think that because it's done by "Sasha" people might be a bit more willing to give the album a chance to grow on themselves.. I mean, I wasn't all that impressed after the initial spin but I wasn't ready to give up on this album so easily after all that waiting... and I'm glad I didn't. Album of the year, period.


Posted by butterfly on Oct-30-2002 20:34:

ADD grows on me every time i listen to it. the first time i heard it i was very disappointed but now i listen to it quite a lot. once i stopped listening for the "old style" that sasha played i was able to appreciate it a lot more.


Posted by DJ Sunburn on Oct-30-2002 21:09:

man fuck this im leaving TA




jk


Posted by Pio on Oct-30-2002 22:07:

Airdrawndagger is w/out a doubt the greatest work of electronic music ever composed ('produced' doesn't do justice to this masterpiece) outside the classical avant-garde realm. It is so ahead of it's time and stands apart from anything else made in contemporary dance music it's not even funny.

I say this because I'm a classical musician and a music student, and everytime I show ADD to a professor or another person knowledgeable in music they always react with the same awe and disbelief: "You mean this is not a work of some famous composer?, Amazing!".

Airdrawndagger is not for the dancefloor, it's music candy for the brain. It makes most other prog productions seem banal and trivial. This is the album that will be remembered for ages to come as the masterpiece classic of the progressive dance movement. Mark my words.

From beginning to end the atmosphere produced by whoever composed it(and i couldn't care if it wasn't just Sasha) is unmatched. This is truly epic grandiose piece of art that takes the listener into a true intellectual experience rich with so many subtleties you could listen to it over and over again always discovering something new. Words can't do justice to Airdrawndagger.


Posted by DCaff on Oct-30-2002 22:13:

didnt like it either. and when it came out people where all like "YAHHH this is awesome. ahhh, no its not.


Posted by TranceSeeker on Oct-30-2002 22:39:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ P�O
Airdrawndagger is w/out a doubt the greatest work of electronic music ever composed ('produced' doesn't do justice to this masterpiece) outside the classical avant-garde realm. It is so ahead of it's time and stands apart from anything else made in contemporary dance music it's not even funny.

I say this because I'm a classical musician and a music student, and everytime I show ADD to a professor or another person knowledgeable in music they always react with the same awe and disbelief: "You mean this is not a work of some famous composer?, Amazing!".

Airdrawndagger is not for the dancefloor, it's music candy for the brain. It makes most other prog productions seem banal and trivial. This is the album that will be remembered for ages to come as the masterpiece classic of the progressive dance movement. Mark my words.

From beginning to end the atmosphere produced by whoever composed it(and i couldn't care if it wasn't just Sasha) is unmatched. This is truly epic grandiose piece of art that takes the listener into a true intellectual experience rich with so many subtleties you could listen to it over and over again always discovering something new. Words can't do justice to Airdrawndagger.


LOL mate I respect your opinion on that but I guess u haven't listened to northern exposure...THAT'S what I call a candy for the ear. And I mean From the start till the end, add compared to northern exposure is crap...take this with some salt & pepper.
But northern exposure is really 10X better then this one, it starts off and doesn't let you go till the end...add starts off well, and after 4 tracks the mix completely falls apart...
Dunno if u already heard ne, well if not, listen to it and enjoy


Posted by DJ Sunburn on Oct-30-2002 22:51:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ P�O
Airdrawndagger is w/out a doubt the greatest work of electronic music ever composed ('produced' doesn't do justice to this masterpiece) outside the classical avant-garde realm. It is so ahead of it's time and stands apart from anything else made in contemporary dance music it's not even funny.

I say this because I'm a classical musician and a music student, and everytime I show ADD to a professor or another person knowledgeable in music they always react with the same awe and disbelief: "You mean this is not a work of some famous composer?, Amazing!".

Airdrawndagger is not for the dancefloor, it's music candy for the brain. It makes most other prog productions seem banal and trivial. This is the album that will be remembered for ages to come as the masterpiece classic of the progressive dance movement. Mark my words.

From beginning to end the atmosphere produced by whoever composed it(and i couldn't care if it wasn't just Sasha) is unmatched. This is truly epic grandiose piece of art that takes the listener into a true intellectual experience rich with so many subtleties you could listen to it over and over again always discovering something new. Words can't do justice to Airdrawndagger.


It truly is amazing! I agree with you there. Unlike other dance music that constantly repeats itself, we see Sasha's Level 8 Piano Skills goto work here for real. ADD's music is much like classical thrown into the electronic genre and that's a real large stepup. We just need more productions like this.


Posted by Spydar on Oct-30-2002 22:55:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ P�O
I say this because I'm a classical musician and a music student, and everytime I show ADD to a professor or another person knowledgeable in music they always react with the same awe and disbelief: "You mean this is not a work of some famous composer?, Amazing!".

Maybe they do this to laugh with you behind your back?? Cynical perhaps? I know i would do so

quote:

Airdrawndagger is not for the dancefloor, it's music candy for the brain. It makes most other prog productions seem banal and trivial. This is the album that will be remembered for ages to come as the masterpiece classic of the progressive dance movement. Mark my words.

I'd say if had to choice a masterpiece of the progressive dance movement , i would chose Sasha GU013 or MMII or Maybe Northern Exposure series...and progressive dance movement ?
Lol , where is the dance??


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