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listen up...

whaussp ???
after buying my second hand equipment and training once in a while for five months, i'm able to beatch match 100% of the time using pitch only, and also phrase match 90% of the time.
but i still have something to work on:

the eq !!!

i've been trying several ways of eq handeling and i just can't get that sound of mixes that pro's have.
i spin mainly prog\tribal\dark house, and i just don't know what to do. maybe it is because i have shity mixer (vestax pcv 175), or a shity sound system ???

i just realized i have another question to ask: what should i do if the wanted pitch position for my mix is between -+1????
my decks (sl 1200) really piss me off on those points, cause every slight change in the pitch slider changes the pitch significantly.

help me out,....
please.

thank you, shay.

for the eq question
just do what feels right, generally have teh incoming track's eqs lowered and then it's just a matter of switching teh bass, mids, and highs

and the pitch
play in a pitch range where you don't have to deal with a shoddy pitch place on your table
i have a problem with my pitch on my tables and i just don't play where i would be using pitch in that area

but i would recommend having your tables recalibrated

thank you for your respond, i do need to recalibrate my tables, but the only place i can do it is about 3 hours away from my house...
i think that i need new tables...

Re: listen up...

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after buying my second hand equipment and training once in a while for five months, i'm able to beatch match 100% of the time using pitch only, and also phrase match 90% of the time.

sounds like your doing well then in that area...

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the eq !!! i've been trying several ways of eq handeling and i just can't get that sound of mixes that pro's have. i spin mainly prog\tribal\dark house, and i just don't know what to do. maybe it is because i have shity mixer (vestax pcv 175), or a shity sound system ???

well, the 175 isnt really a shitty mixer. there are MUCH worse, trust me. The best advise I can give you, is two make your eq corrections on phrases or verses.. make your EQ changes flow with the music, just like how you phrase match, except you can be a little more dynamic and creative with it - this makes the eq changes sound more like part of the music. don't be too drastic, either... your EQ corrections really need to be made quickly in most cases, but at the right times. also, you can actually mix on the EQ's if your EQs cut hard - IE crossfader to center level up with all three EQ's fully down, then start bringing in the track with the EQs rather than the level or faders. you can try bringing up the bass of the incoming track while reducing the outgoing bass, and at some point just cut it hard on a phrase..

bottom line __ the best advise on EQs: think of the music flow and go with it

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I just realized i have another question to ask: what should i do if the wanted pitch position for my mix is between -+1???? my decks (sl 1200) really piss me off on those points, cause every slight change in the pitch slider changes the pitch significantly.

welcome to SL1200s. the pitch IS sensitive, and for a reason.
try putting the tip of your fingernail above or below the pitch slider edge, and nudging slightly, to make a very small correction.

guys...
thank you very much for your help,
i'll try playing a bit with the eq, i'll get it in the end.

Try experimenting while you are mixing. If you are in your bedroom then it doesn't matter what it sounds like coming out of the speakers. If it doesn't sound good, then try something else. I like doing things like turning the high up and the mid down at the same time and then just the opposite (high down and mid up). It's like a wah-type of effect. It works really well right before a break!

Anyway, just try out a few things until you come up with moves that are your own. That is part of what can make you stand out from other djs. Djing is NOT just beatmatching. There is so much more, so no matter how well you can beatmatch (though that is a vital first step) that is only the FIRST step in becoming a pro dj. (The hardest part of being a pro dj is getting out of the bedroom, lol Don't give up, listen to a lot of mixed sets--especially live sets that haven't been doctored etc. Most of all, record your mixes and listen to them technically. I learned so much by seeing where I was actually making mistakes.

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Originally posted by Dj Flesch Try experimenting while you are mixing. If you are in your bedroom then it doesn't matter what it sounds like coming out of the speakers. If it doesn't sound good, then try something else. I like doing things like turning the high up and the mid down at the same time and then just the opposite (high down and mid up). It's like a wah-type of effect. It works really well right before a break!

HAHAHAH!! yes! i love that! this is the trick for those of us who are too cheap to buy effects.. MAKE YOUR OWN!! HAHAH.. no but seriously i do this every know and then but my knobs are pretty close together so i usually endup pinching my fingers and getting them caught between different EQ knobs.. hehehe.. i thought that trick only happend on my piece of shit mixer.

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Originally posted by Dj Flesch Try experimenting while you are mixing. If you are in your bedroom then it doesn't matter what it sounds like coming out of the speakers. If it doesn't sound good, then try something else. I like doing things like turning the high up and the mid down at the same time and then just the opposite (high down and mid up). It's like a wah-type of effect. It works really well right before a break! Anyway, just try out a few things until you come up with moves that are your own. That is part of what can make you stand out from other djs. Djing is NOT just beatmatching. There is so much more, so no matter how well you can beatmatch (though that is a vital first step) that is only the FIRST step in becoming a pro dj. (The hardest part of being a pro dj is getting out of the bedroom, lol Don't give up, listen to a lot of mixed sets--especially live sets that haven't been doctored etc. Most of all, record your mixes and listen to them technically. I learned so much by seeing where I was actually making mistakes.

true true
i record pretty much everytime i mix, then i listen to it later and pick it apart and listen for stuff like

track flow
mixing tricks (like cutting and stuff while in the mix)
and just general technique


then i can go into my next session with that much more knowlege and add that little extra bit to what i can do


and yes, he hardest part is getting out of the bedroom
this industry is all about who you know, not what you know

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