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How Do you beatmatch?

I mean.....do you listen to both records at once in both ears?....or one record on the left side, and the other on the right?....or just with one ear and the other listening to the moniter?....(kinda hard to explain it but hope you guys get what I just wrote!! )

I start off with the cued track in the phones, live track coming through the monitors. Use right ear in the phones, left ear on the speaker. Then, as they get closer, i bring in the live track into the heaphones, still using one ear. Then i wack on both phones and get it precise

search for beatmatch... i know there have been alot of posts about this

I listen to the incoming track in one ear in the headphones while the live one is from the speakers(monitor). Then I get it as good as I can. If I have time I"ll put them both in the headphones at the same time to perfect it, but you'lll see as you get better just haivngg the one in your headphones is enough. You'll be able to fix it on the fly when you hear them both on the load speakers. If you can't pitch fix it live, then you're not ready.

hehe.. it's all a matter of preference.

for me, both tracks in the headphones covering both ears, incoming track at a slightly higher gain level (so it slightly overpowers the outgoing track in the headphones, which can be heard on the monitors/main speakers anyhow)

there's alot of my technique after that, but that's way out of the scope of this post :P

-mer

i have both tracks on my headphone and beatmatch then

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Originally posted by MERiDiAN5i2 for me, both tracks in the headphones covering both ears, incoming track at a slightly higher gain level (so it slightly overpowers the outgoing track in the headphones, which can be heard on the monitors/main speakers anyhow)

Works perfect for me too..

What's beatmatching?

nice joshva, nice.

I like beatmatch with one headphone playing cue and listen to monitors, then when it sounds right, i use my cue fader and fade in between the two tracks to see if its just right. sometimes if i can't concentrate or for some reason i can't get it first try, and put phones on both ears and do the whole holding the record + rocking it on the beat, that always works if your in a pinch.

COvering up both ears with them bothpllaying is kind of the easy way to do it. Most exp DJ's wil just use 1 ear and then listen to both live ont he monitors when they bring it in. This way you hear what the crowd hears.

I used to have both cups on my ears to beatmatch until I found out NO RANE mixers have split cue monitoring. I do it the "professional" dj way now. ONe ear on headphones with one track..other ear on the monitors listening to live track.

Excelon is right, most clubs have Rane mixers and you can only hear one track at a time in the headphones so if you ever wanna get outta your room your gonna have to learn 1 ear on 1 ear off

So now I have a good excuse to buy some monitors!!! (and maybe lots of pratice...)

monitors...cant go wrong with klipsch or tannoy : P love them... klipsh is warmer and tannoys alittle more balanced. plus... dual concentric...they are a dream to hear

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Originally posted by hey cheggy I start off with the cued track in the phones, live track coming through the monitors. Use right ear in the phones, left ear on the speaker. Then, as they get closer, i bring in the live track into the heaphones, still using one ear. Then i wack on both phones and get it precise

I do the same, but I use left ear on the phones and right on the speaker. I'm backwards like that I'm right handed but other than actually writing, I do everything else like a left-handed person (eating, opening cans etc..)

my speakers REALLY REALLY SUCK, so i have to do it with both cups on. i actually hate it, cause i know i am not going to be able to use that way @ a gig. i find it REALLY REALLY HARD to have both tracks on my phones when volume is loud. I NEED NEW SPEAKERS+monitors i guess.

i agree that it's much better to listen to the speakers with one ear so that you hear what the crowd hears, but i also think it's much easier that way (most people say it's easier with both cups on). it feels to me more balanced though when i have one cup off... (that does not make me a professional though...)

same technique as Mer ...

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Originally posted by DJ-Kuza COvering up both ears with them bothpllaying is kind of the easy way to do it. Most exp DJ's wil just use 1 ear and then listen to both live ont he monitors when they bring it in. This way you hear what the crowd hears.

I take it that you have never DJed live in a decent sized club with a loud sound system. the only reason the DJ's use the one cup method is because of the sound levels. If you covered both ears in a club it would be impossible to distingush between the tracks. All you would hear is the bass from the monitors/house system. They have the cued up song in the cup on the ear.... and with the bigger systems they cannot even hear the bass beat from the headphone as you would DJing in your room. they go by all other things that are able to be picked apart.... ie high hats etc. My point is, there is no "professional" way vs ameture way. They do it because it is a necessity to listen that way where the sound systems are 40,000 watt plus.

I thought split-cueing was "not professional" and a bit of a cheat? That's what I've read on these forums....

Personally, here's how I mix: I use one ear to cue up the incoming track. Once I got it where I want it to be, I bring it in so that both tracks are playing at max line volume, then I take off my headphones -- yes, completely off, to hear how the actual mix turns out. Then I finish by fading out the first track.

I've found out that if you keep one ear in the headphones all the time during the actual transition, that can cause minor problems. The actual transition may be a little "bumpier" so you have to catch it and correct it on the fly.

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Originally posted by DJ-Kuza I listen to the incoming track in one ear in the headphones while the live one is from the speakers(monitor). Then I get it as good as I can. If I have time I"ll put them both in the headphones at the same time to perfect it, but you'lll see as you get better just haivngg the one in your headphones is enough. You'll be able to fix it on the fly when you hear them both on the load speakers. If you can't pitch fix it live, then you're not ready.

I do the same thing, but with the track that i'm gonna mix in, I have it a tad bit louder in the headphones. And to make sure that it's mixing perfect i'll play both tracks in the headphones at the same level.
Now as for what point do i start mixing... The track i'm going to mix in, i'll cue it up right when the drums start (where the kicks come in... not hi-hats..s/p?? lol). Then i'll start to mix it in when the track that's playing has finished its chorus or high point.

4 beats

Every track has 4 beats. If you are good enough to figure when 1 starts then after goes 2 3 4. So what i do is i put 1 cup on my ear then at the start of every vinyl there is #1 beat everytime, so when you hear #1 beat on the live song then u throw #1 on the cue at the same time and mixes them everytime. Hard to get the pitch right (I still have problems with that).

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Originally posted by Spad I do the same, but I use left ear on the phones and right on the speaker. I'm backwards like that I'm right handed but other than actually writing, I do everything else like a left-handed person (eating, opening cans etc..)

Really?.....I do the same thing.....we're not backwards.....everybody else is!!!!.....

I actually also take my headphones totally off when im starting the
transition. Otherwise it feels as if i might be "cheated", that i wont
hear all the details or whatever.. just makes me feel more secure.

Guess I wanna hear that live sound instead of the cupsound.

i don't see how people can mix with their headphones on

ive tried it and it was so weird
because the incoming track is clearly heard in my left ear (side i have my headphones on) then on the right side i have to try and make the mix sound good from the monitor

why not dedicate both ears to hearing hte final product and making it sound perfect, then wasting one ear and putting all the pressure on little ol' righty

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