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Posted by tetatdo on Nov-06-2016 22:47:

Deepsky

Is Deepysky still active or defunct? I just heard View from a Stairway last night for the first time and nearly shat myself. Deepsky's productions have always been consistently good. I know one of the guys left the group, but are they still active?


Posted by RebeL9 on Nov-06-2016 22:50:

One of my favourite acts.
Too bad they (Jason) haven't released anything in nearly 10 years or so.
It's a shame actually.


Posted by tetatdo on Nov-07-2016 00:10:

I always wonders what happens to these legendary acts, when they stop producing music. Do they just go to a menial job, like service coffee at starbucks? That's what I imagine in my head, anyway.

It always makes me really REALLY sad to think that.

Seeing someone like pulser, or Jason Blum serving coffee... Sad.

Hi, I'm Andy Pulser. I'll be your barista today.

:cry


Posted by capricorn15 on Nov-07-2016 00:28:

quote:
Originally posted by tetatdo
I always wonders what happens to these legendary acts, when they stop producing music. Do they just go to a menial job, like service coffee at starbucks? That's what I imagine in my head, anyway.

It always makes me really REALLY sad to think that.

Seeing someone like pulser, or Jason Blum serving coffee... Sad.

Hi, I'm Andy Pulser. I'll be your barista today.

:cry


He has been a CTO for the past 10+ years. Probably busy with that, among other things. Also, his linkedin states he has been the general manager of Deepsky music since 2001.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonblum


Posted by Paradox Lost on Nov-07-2016 00:34:

quote:
Originally posted by tetatdo
I always wonders what happens to these legendary acts, when they stop producing music. Do they just go to a menial job, like service coffee at starbucks? That's what I imagine in my head, anyway.

It always makes me really REALLY sad to think that.

Seeing someone like pulser, or Jason Blum serving coffee... Sad.

Hi, I'm Andy Pulser. I'll be your barista today.

:cry


I don't think there's necessarily anything sad about it considering most of them had day jobs even while they were household names in a thriving but still ultimately niche creative scene. Unless they were fortunate enough to begin touring as DJ's off the success of their records, music was just a side project. And even then, life after trance didn't necessarily amount to toiling away in menial service industry jobs. A lot of them found work in other lucrative, often related fields: they work as sound engineers, in production studios; Likwit became a professional photographer, Elevation became a real estate agent, Gil Norris became a physician.

I don't think most of them realistically expected to make a living off dance music, so for them I think life just returned to normal.


Posted by miamitranceman on Nov-07-2016 02:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Paradox Lost
I don't think there's necessarily anything sad about it considering most of them had day jobs even while they were household names in a thriving but still ultimately niche creative scene. Unless they were fortunate enough to begin touring as DJ's off the success of their records, music was just a side project. And even then, life after trance didn't necessarily amount to toiling away in menial service industry jobs. A lot of them found work in other lucrative, often related fields: they work as sound engineers, in production studios; Likwit became a professional photographer, Elevation became a real estate agent, Gil Norris became a physician.

I don't think most of them realistically expected to make a living off dance music, so for them I think life just returned to normal.


And I mean, in general, the scene has changed so much from back then. The guys I always thought missed it by just a few years who could've gone super mainstream popular were Gabriel and Dresden. As is they remixed for top 40 acts regularly (Jewel, Sarah McLaughlin, etc.) even back in early to mid 2000s. They've tried several comebacks but never made it to the modern mainstream.


Posted by Godking5 on Nov-07-2016 03:14:

quote:
Originally posted by capricorn15
He has been a CTO for the past 10+ years. Probably busy with that, among other things. Also, his linkedin states he has been the general manager of Deepsky music since 2001.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonblum


Glad to hear he is doing very well. Super talented person.


Posted by tetatdo on Nov-07-2016 07:58:

Wow, thats great to hear he's doing so well!

Matt Hardwick is a very successful attorney..

Still, it's a weird juxtaposition, knowing these guys are legends in one place, and work and are successful/failures in others.

Any idea what happened to Pulser, in reality? Or the guys from Goldenscan?


Posted by Lews on Nov-07-2016 17:58:

quote:
Originally posted by tetatdo
Still, it's a weird juxtaposition, knowing these guys are legends in one place, and work and are successful/failures in others.


The most amusing one for me is that the co-founder of Vox Media, and formerly one of the most important people at Bloomberg News, is also responsible for the original of this classic:


Posted by DJ RANN on Nov-07-2016 19:22:

Don't forget, back in the day (90's) there wasn't the huge sums of money involved like there is in recent years.

A top flight DJ would get 2 grand for a 2 or 3 hour set. A couple of the very top flight were getting 10 grand a gig for massive events - it made front page news in the UK when Junior vasquez announced his retirement and was getting 60 grand for one night.

Now, most big name Vegas DJ's wouldn't get out of bed for less than 50 grand. I honestly saw one deal fall apart with a big name DJ because they wouldn't pay $100k for two hours and were only offering $40k

There were a lot of "big name" DJ in those days that called $100k a good year.

Many of the guys that "made it" like Danny Howells and Tony De Vit had pretty well paid jobs. TDV even said that it was a really scary thing giving up computer programming to DJ full time and was probably taking a pay cut. He was arguably the biggest name in the 90's for hard house.

Paul van Dyk was a broadcast engineer and a carpenter.
Pete Tong was a pretty accomplished music Journalist.
Armin was a successful lawyer.

Sure, some of the lesser known names aren't going to have millions to fall back on, but usually these guys were pretty smart and had good jobs in the first place.

I know the Trouser Enthusiasts became music library content creators (pretty lucrative) and a lot of other guys quietly went in to sound design and commercial music production which probably pays far better than their tracks or gigs ever did.

I think Matt Darey was an IT guy as well. I remember meeting him on a boat cruise party thing, and he already had hits with gamemaster, invisible and sun is shining etc - a few of us asked him to DJ but he couldn't - he didn't know how to. It was only when his tracks really blew up that he learned and became a big name DJ but he had all those big early hits while doing a normal job.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Nov-07-2016 19:39:

Not from DJing, but there was actually decent money to be made from releasing club records, and also from getting tracks licensed to compilations. The Digital Blonde earned £30k from the Antheum EP in 1996. Red Devil got £10k for having Gamelan licensed to Northern Exposure: Expeditions. These weren't chart-bothering anthems or even underground smashes, just solid selling progressive/trance releases on par with stuff by the likes of Deepsky, Goldenscan and co.


Posted by DJ RANN on Nov-07-2016 19:57:

True. In those days, a lot of producers would make tidy sums getting signed to compilations.

A friend of mine worked for 4liberty records (Dreem Teem, marshamm Jefferson etc) and they would get 2 grand for selling tracks to even small compilation mix CD's and there were tons of them about in those days.

you could also make nice regular income from remixes; The rhythm masters at their peak were churning out over 20 a year and just charging between 2 and 5 grand a shot. Same with Signum.

Timo Maas only got paid 2k for Doom's Night though. *Ouch*


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Nov-07-2016 20:01:

I've heard a possibly apocryphal story about the Dooms Night remix. Legend has it that Timo Maas originally submitted a very different mix, which was rejected by the label. They asked him to have another go, so he deliberately made the most filthy, noisy mix he could, to try and convince them to accept the first mix. They signed the second mix and the rest is history.


Posted by evo8 on Nov-07-2016 21:13:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I've heard a possibly apocryphal story about the Dooms Night remix. Legend has it that Timo Maas originally submitted a very different mix, which was rejected by the label. They asked him to have another go, so he deliberately made the most filthy, noisy mix he could, to try and convince them to accept the first mix. They signed the second mix and the rest is history.


i want this to be true

remember hearing that for the first time on Radio 1, probably Essential Selection, going what the fuuuuuuuck...


Posted by kosmotika on Nov-08-2016 08:45:

Deepsky had in my opinion the best version of Markus Schulz's "You Won't See Me Cry"


Posted by RebeL9 on Nov-08-2016 09:08:

Yep best remix by far.


Posted by Mr Game+Watch on Nov-08-2016 16:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Lews
The most amusing one for me is that the co-founder of Vox Media, and formerly one of the most important people at Bloomberg News, is also responsible for the original of this classic:



Heh, reminds me that Peter Daou, who wrote "Surrender Yourself", a staple of mid 90's NY house music, is a political advisor to the Clintons and other Democrats:

http://peterdaou.com/one-page/about/

And back to Deepsky, I'm a big fan of "In Silico", still will break it out once in a while to listen to. Would love to see a revival of the project, I think they are a bit underrated.



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