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Posted by kr00t0n on Nov-04-2002 18:57:

Whats up with Data Records

I've got three records from Data now, and, with Massive missing the first beat, and all the tracks seemingly pitched down a hell of a lot, I am not happy.

Massive's bpm at +10 is just 150
Flutlicht remix of Dreaming of You is maxed at 148 bpm
SHOKK remix of Hope & Wait is similarily slow

WHY???????

Posted by JMF [TrAcId] on Nov-04-2002 21:36:

they aren't pitched down - they are supposed to be that slow - why would you be playing tracks at +10 anyway?

Dreaming of You should be 134bpm - there ain't nuffin wrong with the records - that's the way they are meant to be - as for Massive, i don't know why the first beat is missing *shrugs*

Posted by DJ Sound on Nov-04-2002 23:24:

hahahahahahhahahaha if you play a song at +10 your so funny....hahahaha......they made thier tracks slower cuz they wanted them slower......mroe emotional probly......super fast music is for kids

Posted by popop on Nov-04-2002 23:33:

quote:
Originally posted by DJSound
hahahahahahhahahaha if you play a song at +10 your so funny....hahahaha......they made thier tracks slower cuz they wanted them slower......mroe emotional probly......super fast music is for kids

tell that to PVD next time u see him

Posted by Dmatrox on Nov-05-2002 04:03:

i love data records! I have a lot of their records, they are great!

Posted by IronDragon on Nov-05-2002 04:04:

I have no idea what the hell your complaint is......

On a side note Data is a pretty good label who now is achieving some chart success. They've always been a favorite of mine and will continue to do so as long as they keep bringing the hot vinyl

Posted by Luke Terry on Nov-05-2002 16:01:

all u seem 2 wanna do is bloody winge. massive is fine, the first beat is quiet, sounds more like an intro beat, same on my itwt vinyl so check your facts. hope and wait and dreaming of you are at their produced speeds. seriously, get a life.

Posted by MoonMan on Nov-05-2002 16:17:

DATA are a good label, nothing wrong wid the tempos.

Posted by kr00t0n on Nov-05-2002 17:10:

Crikey, a guy cant put forward an opinion without it being dissed around here.

Massive aside, I got SHOKK and Flutlicht remixes on my Data 12"s, and they are considered Hard Trance producers. Try playing a Dumonde track at 136 and see how crappy it sounds. Granted, my usual pitch for playing is between 145-148 to keep the crowd interested (I hate dancing to music that is too slow, makes you feel inhibited). London does tend to be a bit more pitched up due to all the hard house round here, but that leaves me with only warm-up sets, as alot of my tracks cant keep up with 150+

I reckon 140 is a good speed for pitch setting of 0, that allows for 126-154 bpm roughly.

Just a thought...

Great tracks on the label, could just be a little bit faster (Vandit are seriously speedy)

Posted by Dave_Masters on Nov-05-2002 17:18:

I agree with the first beat of massive is missing completely

but i dont see a problem with the tempos of the tunes...

Posted by Luke Terry on Nov-05-2002 17:20:

a guy yes, a moaning twat no.

vandit is a german label and german trance is known to be faster than british trance and data is a british label.

Posted by kr00t0n on Nov-05-2002 17:23:

I guess it is all relative to how you listen to tunes and where you go clubbing. Being from Cape Town originally, we were pretty pacey with our music, so I'm used to pounding, driving and energetic trance.

Anyone heard of Marcos - Beat Junkie on Rising Up? Thats got pace!!

Posted by kr00t0n on Nov-05-2002 17:25:

Data may be a british label, but Flutlicht and SHOKK arent british...

Posted by kr00t0n on Nov-05-2002 17:25:

And what gives you the right to call me a twat...?

Posted by Az on Nov-05-2002 17:27:

quote:
Originally posted by kr00t0n
I reckon 140 is a good speed for pitch setting of 0, that allows for 126-154 bpm roughly.

maybe thats why u didn't do so well in the comp mix
seriously tho, most trance tunes sound better faster (with the exception of Agnelli + Nelson - Everyday (original mix), sounds horrific pitched up), and I think producers have this in mind, and also take into account the kind of DJ that's going to play it, and whereabouts in the set. Between 138 and 145 is good for trance, and this allows most records to be pitched accordingly on Technics (-/+ 8)
There are those that play ridiculously fast (Yoji and his +16 action), but it's very rare a DJ can pull this off.
Also Paul Van Dyk playing Ferry Corsten - Punk at such a speed it's almost unrecognisable is just plaing WRONG!

Posted by kr00t0n on Nov-05-2002 17:30:

Granted, but I'm just used to playing stuff like Dumonde, Flutlicht and SHOKK fairly speedy. The flutlicht mix of Will I is pitched fine, as is Icarus. And the SHOKK mix of Icarus for that matter...

Posted by Az on Nov-05-2002 17:32:

quote:
Originally posted by kr00t0n
Granted, but I'm just used to playing stuff like Dumonde, Flutlicht and SHOKK fairly speedy. The flutlicht mix of Will I is pitched fine, as is Icarus. And the SHOKK mix of Icarus for that matter...

Flutlicht, SHOKK and Dumonde all browse the forums, take it up with them

Posted by kr00t0n on Nov-05-2002 17:36:

I wonder if they give labels permittion to alter the speeds, and I wonder what they normally produce at, coz I noticed that a good number of Dumonde tracks are the same pitch (perhaps to make it easier for them to mix there own music? kidding)

Posted by Luke Terry on Nov-05-2002 17:43:

quote:
Originally posted by kr00t0n
And what gives you the right to call me a twat...?

i can and will say what i want, freedom of speech n all that

Posted by kr00t0n on Nov-05-2002 17:45:

Well I'm glad not all of us make use of that, lest the world become a sh*t-flinging contest