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Scot Project the sellout!!!

now.. about 3 years ago, i discovered scot project thry hennes and cold - second trip (scot project mix)...... also tracks like nightclub - french kiss (scot project mix)... arome - scream (scot project mix)... dj x2000 - modem (scot project)... daisy dee - open sesame (scot project mix)....... all of these are unreal tracks, cos they all kick ass....... all are hard edged... great riffs, similar idea on track structure (like all scot p tracks r)..... so it kills me now a days.. when i see all of scots latest productions..... i.e arome - hands up... dingaling... D... overdrive, they are all to samey in my opinion.

now before you all go and try and flame me... please take note that i do have pretty much all of his productions so i do know what im talking about, and im not just a bandwagon fan, as i was an enormous scot p fan way b4 he found his current fame.

his sets are all too similar too, ok, they always have been, but his newer productions for me just dont cut the mustard anymore, im bored of them already.. whereas his older harder productions still kick, as far as im concerned.
I really do not appreciate his sets anymore, i wont deny that his newer tracks ARE great but, i find that they have less thought gone into them.
Anyone from the UKTA forum will tell you that i hate normal/uplifting trance.. this aint entirely true... i just dont appreciate the likes of armin van boring, and tiesto'verrated' (lol).

The reason for this thread is to announce that i think scot project has sold out in the sense that, people prefer his newer more uplifting productions.. as his harder/older stuff is more of an acquired taste. so he has changed his style ever so slightly to accomodate the uplifting fans out there.... i personally think this is wrong, not just because i like harder trance, but i think that as a DJ, you should stick to the style that you want to play, rather than what the majority wants to hear, this makes you a fake DJ/producer.
His sets DO still have a few harder edged tracks included in them, but mainly plagued by his uplifting favoured productions.... so this proves that he is producing uplifting tracks to sell more, as it is a more popular genre, but he still plays a few harder tracks to keep his original fans happy.

Does anyone agree with me, or agree with what scot project is doing?

All i know is that if Scott Project is leaving the french kiss style then im no longer interested :� I havent been following to exstensively lately but if this is the case id have to agree with ya. But in a sense he does have to make money to stay in the biz. I guess we'll just have to cross our fingers and hope for our old hard banging trax to come back once again

here's a tip

you can't fuckin sellout to a style that still isn't mainstream.

clear? good.

I love hands up and ding a ling and theme of banging globe! i dont think hes a sell out at all, but oh well

FINALLY someone who agrees with me.Scot P either suffers from a sever creativity problem or/and is drowinng in all the other hardtrance prodcuers that keep treading the same ground around him.I've pointed this out several times,but everytime I do somebody goes on the warpath and flames me.Hopefully that won't happen now.

Just like our tastes in music progresses, so does producer's taste in music progress. Maybe he wanted to do something new and progress his style?

I can imagine that you would get tired of making the same kind of tracks over again and over again for years.. (and I'm not saying that Scott does that)

Stop your moaning Jay , some of his old stuff is pure poo, he's just got better at producing, some of the melodies he's come up with are class. Still reckon his live remix of open sesame is his best tho

interesting opinion

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Originally posted by sifntj0r here's a tip you can't fuckin sellout to a style that still isn't mainstream. clear? good.

heh. what a load of crap that is. Of course u can sellout to summing that aint mainstream. I think the point Jay is making is that Scot P has sold out to his fans that first started following him for his hard and unique style.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike heh. what a load of crap that is. Of course u can sellout to summing that aint mainstream. I think the point Jay is making is that Scot P has sold out to his fans that first started following him for his hard and unique style.

yeh hes become more hairy fairy rather than full on hardness which is why he has "sold out" as it were.

How can you forget

Beam Vs Cyrus - Thunder In Paradise (Dj Scot Project Remix)

Best work ever

you do get bored producing the same style everyday everyear for so many years.

its like you wake up.. you wouldn't feel the same everyday
sometimes you are =( sometimes you are =) ..
and you can't listen to the same tune everyday for the rest of your life, got to change once in awhile.
need something new.. all the time..

a producer likes to test out new sound/ style
test test experiment, but usually some elements of the old sound still reminds in the new production some just compeletly new

if all else fails then back we go to the old style.
if alot of people love the new sound...then the rest of his stuff will be like that in the future...

Scott Project Ownz !!!!!

I have to agree with [N]�k|��[Z], I love the old stuff much more than his new shit. I saw scot project the first time he was at slinky and he played it hard and filthy but it was just at the stage when he was turning uplifting. Tunes like thunder in paradise, paranoid, ong diggi dong, french kiss and last tune second trip was amazin. But when i saw him the followin time there and at gatecrasher nec, i left. Didn't enjoy it at all. I also have followed him when no one knew who he was and Ill back you up, He aint the same and i miss it.

Best Tune - Second Trip by a long shot

I have always said that Scot Projects tunes have too similar a structure and that people will become sick of it eventually. He needs to change it up a bit, instead he always has similar intros, similar build-ups, similar melodies etc....

However, for me Overdrive is a piece of hard trance mastery!

His sets do sound awfully samey, he is however a highly skilled DJ. When I saw him once the tune he was playing was jumping all over the place. Instead of panicking he done an amazing scrath on the other deck and droped that tune in perfectly whilst spinning back the jumping tune. Awesome!

why do people have to be so damn picky? ...damnit! i like prog, cheese, uplifting, hard, melodic, blah bleh bluh, everything, i dont discriminate to much amongst my electronic music because it gives me a wider variety to choose from! but of course waht sucks, still sucks, but when scott came down here, he fucking blew, and i mean blew us all to hell, so it was cool. And i like his new and old productions the same. peace.

-b

Okay, first of all

Without Scot Project's ch00ns Hard Trance would defintely..

DEFINITELY be dead.. Scot Project has been keeping us in touch with

Hard Trance believe it or not and it seems to me that if Scot Project

wants to continue his hard ways we must accept it..

IMO

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Originally posted by StalkerElmo Okay, first of all Without Scot Project's ch00ns Hard Trance would defintely.. DEFINITELY be dead.. Scot Project has been keeping us in touch with Hard Trance believe it or not and it seems to me that if Scot Project wants to continue his hard ways we must accept it.. IMO

fair comment, can you lot try sorting out the gatecrasher forum as they love slaggin of people like scot project and picotto.

thanks hahahah

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Originally posted by sifntj0r here's a tip you can't fuckin sellout to a style that still isn't mainstream. clear? good.

i aint even gunna answer that..........








..ok then, i will........ ofcourse you can sell out if it aint mainstream, he is selling out to the majority of hard trance fans that like the uplifting side of the style, it is proven in his productions which are nearly all uplifting now..... this shows that he knows that he will make more money from them, because there are more people that r gonna be buying them in a shop, Scot does still drop hard tracks tho, so it shows that he does still like his harder stuff, but youll get about an hour of uplifting, then maybe perhaps an hour of harder trance.

Im NOT saying he's a shit DJ, he is very very skilled. But i AM saying his productions arent as legendary as his older productions..... as moshman said (one track that i forgot to point out) beam vs cyrus - thunder in paradise (scot p mix), and other tracks like second trip (scot p mix), are still recognised as completely awesome tunes.... for theyre hardness and the energy that is in them.... 2 factors that you just dont see in his newer stuff.

Neither am i saying that all his newer stuff is shit, because it aint... but they just dont have the same legendaryness (word?) that his older stuff had.

Acid Circus - Agreed... overdrive is an awesome tune.... but this tune was the turning point for scot, since then each production has been a similarity to this.

ScotProjectGOD - dont worry mate, those guys on there are all sheep, they cant have their own constructive opinion on there, as soon as sumone says a dj is shit, the thats it.... everyone hates whichever dj it is..... b4 scot played his 4 hour there this year... everyone was saying how innappropriate he was for the club, and that hes wank..... then after he played...... BOOOM! omfg, hes awesome, the he had a crown for a few months, then sumones says hes shit... then WHAM!, scot project is shit again..... but i tell you what, no-one on there could give you a valid reason for it. look for the scot project thread in... dj review section.... nearly a year old now, and look at the varied reviews... including mine. peace

Stalker elmo - your right also, scot is a main contributer to the hard trance scene, but is he for the right reasons?... i dont think so, although his productions r still good, they are no longer innovative, maybe to sumone who just listens to hard trance, but not to sumone who eats, sleeps, breathes hard trance (thats not a shot at you by the way, im just saying that, he is more pleasing to an uneducated hard trance fan, than an educated fan)



peace

Re: Scot Project the sellout!!!

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Originally posted by [N]�k|��[Z] i just dont appreciate the likes of armin van boring, and tiesto'verrated' (lol).

BAaaaaaaaaaaHHHHHH BAaaaaaaaaaaHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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U!!!!!!!!!!!!

thats all i can say..........(hope we don't have another progman coming through)

baaaaaaahhh

(all imo though )

but the rest......i sorta agree with half

Re: Re: Scot Project the sellout!!!

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Originally posted by DJ-Ande BAaaaaaaaaaaHHHHHH BAaaaaaaaaaaHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 2 U!!!!!!!!!!!! thats all i can say..........(hope we don't have another progman coming through) baaaaaaahhh (all imo though ) but the rest......i sorta agree with half

that made no sense at all

Re: Re: Re: Scot Project the sellout!!!

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Originally posted by Az that made no sense at all

it didnt to me either....then I had a wee smoke of my crack pipe and then it made perfect sense.

I always found his older stuff a bit too hard for me, I like some upliftingness, but I wouldnt necessarily call him a sell-out.
Producers styles change over time, I mean, look at what Oakie used to do, and compare it to 'Starry Eyed Shyte'

Lots of producers tend to stick to a specific sound (Dumonde, Flutlicht, Barthezz, Scot P) and some do it better than others (Heaven's Cry's new one is PANTS IMO, too similar to TTDUP), but I like what Scottie boys up to at the mo.

[N]�k|��[Z]

Fucking nice one mate, at last someone agrees with me!!!!! Lets have a party invite scot project.

i think hes shite, but you dont need to listen to me .


later
PSi

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