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Posted by registerhere on Nov-09-2002 03:52:

XONE 62 "vcf" vs XONE 32 "vcf"

I'm about to purchase an XONE mixer. I'm having a tough time with XONE 62 vs XONE 32. Everyone always talks about how cool the VCF controls are. I've never even seen one myself. But I notice there is a difference between the 2 mixers in this respect. Can someone explain the difference as far as VCF's go on these two? Thanks any info would be appreciated.


Posted by amdmaxx on Nov-09-2002 05:13:

xone 62 u mean?


Posted by Phu on Nov-09-2002 05:36:

The xone 32 is a 3 ch and the 62 is a 4 ch. Both are deadly.


Posted by Dj Thy on Nov-09-2002 11:30:

No, the xone:62 is 6 channels.
The actual VCF on the 32, 62 and 464 are the same, except that the 32 has an additional LFO (low frequent oscillator) control. That oscillator is used to make the filter sweep by itself. The 32 also contains memories so you can store LFO+VCF settings easily. Other than that, the actual VCF sounds the same.

I would mainly think the big difference you should consider between the 32 and 62/464 is the 4th EQ band on the bigger brothers. Just try, and you'll see you'll never want to return to 3band EQ afterwards.


Posted by j_spot on Nov-09-2002 12:42:

also, on the 32 the filter is applied to the whole out I believe, where on the 62 its per channel that you chose.


Posted by hapamoto on Nov-09-2002 14:38:

if you have the cash, go for the 62.. IMO the creme de la creme, simply the finest mixer i have used. now if u need that 4th ch then just save for the 62. of course having a 4band EQ is great, but unless u use EQ's alot, then it isn't necessary. EQ buffs (myself included) however will love the expanded control and find going back to only 3band eq is kinda restrictive but none the less, more than enough to do a good job. so really, it should boil down to a financial decision. for myself, i'd love a 62, but can't afford it, so im most likely going for the djm3000, (i could go for a 19" and i need the 4ch, i just wont have the 4band eq, but i can get the pioneer much cheaper.. which is too bad because Allen & Heath makes a superior sound...


Posted by Dj Thy on Nov-09-2002 19:38:

Well for people like you there's still the option of external EQ's. Elextrix had killer ones, but they got bankrupt, but word goes that you can get the EQkillers very cheap in the US.


Posted by DJ LIQUID on Nov-09-2002 20:03:

can some one post a sample of what these filters sound like?

i played with these mixers at the store but i didnt have it turned up enough


Posted by Kid Lax on Nov-09-2002 20:03:

quote:
Originally posted by j_spot
also, on the 32 the filter is applied to the whole out I believe, where on the 62 its per channel that you chose.


you can assign the vcf to whatever channel you want on the 32 (or a combination of them)

i believe the only difference are that the 32 has a horizontal slider for the vcf, and the 62 has a knob

also the 62 has two vcf controls (so i guess you can have two different vcf settings playing at the same time on two different channels)

and the 32 has the lfo & setting preset buttons


Posted by j_spot on Nov-09-2002 21:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Thy
Well for people like you there's still the option of external EQ's. Elextrix had killer ones, but they got bankrupt, but word goes that you can get the EQkillers very cheap in the US.


electrix is great. I have a filterqueen.*on the way*


Posted by registerhere on Nov-10-2002 02:27:

ok thank for all the responses, I guess I'm unsure how important 4 channel would be for me??! the 62 uses a knob instead of a slider I'm not to keen on the knob has anyone used both?? Anyway money is of no concern but I think the 464 would be overkill. So sounds like the 62 is the way to go.


Posted by Phu on Nov-10-2002 03:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Thy
No, the xone:62 is 6 channels.
The actual VCF on the 32, 62 and 464 are the same, except that the 32 has an additional LFO (low frequent oscillator) control. That oscillator is used to make the filter sweep by itself. The 32 also contains memories so you can store LFO+VCF settings easily. Other than that, the actual VCF sounds the same.

I would mainly think the big difference you should consider between the 32 and 62/464 is the 4th EQ band on the bigger brothers. Just try, and you'll see you'll never want to return to 3band EQ afterwards.
we are not counting the mic ch here.


Posted by Phu on Nov-10-2002 11:24:

And i want to know who in here owns a Allen & Heath.


Posted by Dj Thy on Nov-10-2002 11:35:

I own a 62, and no CH1&2 are not only mic, also line. It's true that ch1&2 are different from the 4 other channels, but they still count.


Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on Nov-11-2002 07:39:

i own a 32, and i really like it.

the 62 is big and has alotttt of controls.. but awesome.. the 32 is durable and portable, and sounds excellent... ive tried the 62, and i like the 32 better for two reasons: i prefer 3 band EQ and the VCF slider is more agile, for more detailed effect control.

another thing i like about the 32: any DJ can get used to it real quick. the 4band EQs take a little getting used to.

if you do go with a 32, you should upgrade the crossfader to the pennes and giles option - they actually last under abuse and have very little play, solid feel.. the P&g fader comes standard on the 62 though.

my only whine about the 32 is the level controls on the back of the mixer rather than the face.. strangeness.. but workable.


Posted by 531.am on Nov-11-2002 16:34:

is there any place where you can get a test demo in the US?


Posted by DJ LIQUID on Nov-12-2002 05:45:

so nobody is going to post a sample of these effects


Posted by Dj Thy on Nov-12-2002 19:22:

No those are only meant for the elite to listen to

J/k, I hardly have any time now (school you know) but I'll try to record some samples as soon as possible.


Posted by DJ LIQUID on Nov-12-2002 23:44:

thanks


Posted by leshii on Nov-15-2002 23:54:

I work for the nightclub which is equipped with 2 allens, xne 464 and xne 32.

As I've noticed, there's one frustrating thing about xne 32 for those peeps, who never seen one before. Channel gain control knobs are seen on the back side of the console, next to inputs. Same is about line/phono switch. Instead, there's an AUX knob where you used to see gain. a bit weird, but it's nearly nothing.

xne 464 (62's older bro with 4 mono inputs and extended EQ) has a bit non-logical location of headphones level control knob. It has master 1 and master 2 knobs situated next to headphone's plug input, so not once I could see deejays turning up master level instead of headphones one and wondering what the hell is goin' on.


Posted by Phu on Nov-16-2002 06:58:

I was gonna buy the 464 but wat the hell so much buttons that i dont even need.



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