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Posted by ControlFreak18 on Feb-26-2018 16:08:

Kevin Smith hospitalized after massive heart attack

https://www.rollingstone.com/movies...-attack-w517098


Posted by on Feb-26-2018 16:18:

Two words come to mind:

�Snowball� and �36�


Posted by ControlFreak18 on Feb-26-2018 16:22:

37


Posted by on Feb-26-2018 16:28:

quote:
Originally posted by ControlFreak18
37

In a row?


Posted by Silky Johnson on Feb-26-2018 17:38:

Was just talking about his size the other day, wondering when this was gonna happen. 100% blockage of the LAD? He's lucky he survived!


Posted by ControlFreak18 on Feb-26-2018 17:52:

One would think 100% blockage would mean he doesn�t make it to the hospital. From your experience, how could he have been standing/performing with even 90% blockage?


Posted by Silky Johnson on Feb-26-2018 18:08:

Collateral circulation. Over time, in a stressed heart with blocked vessels, the heart circumvents or develops new pathways for blood flow. But of course, all that does it buy a little more time before the inevitable happens. The reason an LAD infarct is usually lethal is because the left anterior descending artery supplies a critical bundle of nerve fibres with blood flow; stop blood flow, stop nerve innervation, stop heart. But yeah, he would have survived because being such a fucking slob for so long he likely had enough collateral circulation to sustain him until he got treatment.


Posted by ControlFreak18 on Feb-26-2018 18:34:

So if you have coronary artery disease you should just let yourself go to buy some time?


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Feb-26-2018 18:46:

I obviously don't wish any ill on the guy, and hopefully he can recover and make the necessary lifestyle changes. But fuck me is he a shitty film-maker. I used to live with a guy who adored Kevin Smith, and I ended up seeing the majority of his films. Absolute amateurism, for the most part.


Posted by ControlFreak18 on Feb-26-2018 18:48:

Always been more of a fan of his standup than his films, clerks notwithstanding.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Feb-26-2018 18:57:

quote:
Originally posted by ControlFreak18
So if you have coronary artery disease you should just let yourself go to buy some time?




Lol of course not. Collateral circulation is just one factor, albeit a very important one.


Posted by ControlFreak18 on Feb-26-2018 19:00:

That�s really interesting that the body will do that. Kind of has its own redundancies built in.


Posted by on Feb-26-2018 19:36:

Now that�s what I call Collateral Damage (ba da da tshhh)

I can�t help be impressed by the circumstances behind the making of Clerks. It�s every amateur film maker wet dream. It�s still a funny movie though I haven�t revisted to see if it has stood the test of time. No doubt his other movies are no works of art and his hype exceeded his skill but he still embodies the indie movement of that time.


Posted by Lira on Feb-26-2018 19:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Silky Johnson
Collateral circulation. Over time, in a stressed heart with blocked vessels, the heart circumvents or develops new pathways for blood flow. But of course, all that does it buy a little more time before the inevitable happens. The reason an LAD infarct is usually lethal is because the left anterior descending artery supplies a critical bundle of nerve fibres with blood flow; stop blood flow, stop nerve innervation, stop heart. But yeah, he would have survived because being such a fucking slob for so long he likely had enough collateral circulation to sustain him until he got treatment.

This is what I love about TA. No matter the topic, we will eventually get an informed opinion about what is going on

Anyway, I know very little about him (other than I really like his fashion sense, or lack thereof), and I wish him a speedy recovery... And a better health.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Feb-26-2018 20:36:

quote:
Originally posted by ControlFreak18
That�s really interesting that the body will do that. Kind of has its own redundancies built in.



Yeah, it happens in the brain too.


Posted by Zoso on Feb-27-2018 11:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Silky Johnson
Collateral circulation. Over time, in a stressed heart with blocked vessels, the heart circumvents or develops new pathways for blood flow. But of course, all that does it buy a little more time before the inevitable happens. The reason an LAD infarct is usually lethal is because the left anterior descending artery supplies a critical bundle of nerve fibres with blood flow; stop blood flow, stop nerve innervation, stop heart. But yeah, he would have survived because being such a fucking slob for so long he likely had enough collateral circulation to sustain him until he got treatment.


My high school agriculture science teacher was a long time chain smoker, and when they finally had to open him up for bypass surgery, the doctors/surgical staff were amazed at the new/ad hoc network of blood flow his body had created.


Posted by DJ RANN on Feb-28-2018 03:41:

When I hear shit like that I always think of the penultimate scene in Terminator 2, where he's dead but the system finds a way to reroute the power source.


Posted by Lira on Mar-18-2018 06:11:

Dear health people,

I didn't want to post another thread about heart conditions given that this one is already here so... how messed up does your body have to be to require a quintuple bypass surgery age 34?

Some bloke I know has just got under the knife, and I'm surprised because he's not exactly fat as Kevin Smith, and this sounds way too much given his age. Apparently, his friends took him to a hospital because they were worried about his health (he has diabetes and would often complain he was losing sensibility of his fingertips) and, when the results came out, the doctor decided he had to undergo an emergency surgery.

I'm stunned, and I wonder if someone could explain this in more detail. I mean, it goes without saying that he isn't exactly an athlete, but I thought you had to have entire planets orbiting your adipose tissue to need such a drastic procedure at such a young age


Posted by Vector A on Mar-18-2018 09:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Dear health people,

I didn't want to post another thread about heart conditions given that this one is already here so... how messed up does your body have to be to require a quintuple bypass surgery age 34?

Some bloke I know has just got under the knife, and I'm surprised because he's not exactly fat as Kevin Smith, and this sounds way too much given his age. Apparently, his friends took him to a hospital because they were worried about his health (he has diabetes and would often complain he was losing sensibility of his fingertips) and, when the results came out, the doctor decided he had to undergo an emergency surgery.

I'm stunned, and I wonder if someone could explain this in more detail. I mean, it goes without saying that he isn't exactly an athlete, but I thought you had to have entire planets orbiting your adipose tissue to need such a drastic procedure at such a young age

Diabetes tends to accelerate the clogging of arteries. Even so, 34 sounds young to me even for a diabetic. There are some nasty mutations that can lead to highly elevated cholesterol and clogged arteries at a young age, including in people who otherwise seem "normal" (not fat or having an especially crappy diet):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famil...cholesterolemia

Sometimes people won't know they have this until they have a heart attack at age 35 or something. On the other hand, losing sensitivity in fingers sounds to me like the diabetes was poorly controlled, which can also be a real disaster for your arteries.


Posted by on Mar-18-2018 12:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Dear health people,

I didn't want to post another thread about heart conditions given that this one is already here so... how messed up does your body have to be to require a quintuple bypass surgery age 34?

Some bloke I know has just got under the knife, and I'm surprised because he's not exactly fat as Kevin Smith, and this sounds way too much given his age. Apparently, his friends took him to a hospital because they were worried about his health (he has diabetes and would often complain he was losing sensibility of his fingertips) and, when the results came out, the doctor decided he had to undergo an emergency surgery.

I'm stunned, and I wonder if someone could explain this in more detail. I mean, it goes without saying that he isn't exactly an athlete, but I thought you had to have entire planets orbiting your adipose tissue to need such a drastic procedure at such a young age

https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-in...-disease-stroke

quote:
Having diabetes means that you are more likely to develop heart disease
...
Over time, high blood glucose from diabetes can damage your blood vessels and the nerves that control your heart and blood vessels. The longer you have diabetes, the higher the chances that you will develop heart disease...

People with diabetes tend to develop heart disease at a younger age than people without diabetes.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Mar-18-2018 12:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Dear health people,

I didn't want to post another thread about heart conditions given that this one is already here so... how messed up does your body have to be to require a quintuple bypass surgery age 34?

Some bloke I know has just got under the knife, and I'm surprised because he's not exactly fat as Kevin Smith, and this sounds way too much given his age. Apparently, his friends took him to a hospital because they were worried about his health (he has diabetes and would often complain he was losing sensibility of his fingertips) and, when the results came out, the doctor decided he had to undergo an emergency surgery.

I'm stunned, and I wonder if someone could explain this in more detail. I mean, it goes without saying that he isn't exactly an athlete, but I thought you had to have entire planets orbiting your adipose tissue to need such a drastic procedure at such a young age




Number one factor is genetics. I'd be surprised if one or both of his parents and/or grandparents DIDN'T have cardiovascular disease.

If he wasn't managing his diabetes very well then that would only accelerate the disease. Diabetes has a major inflammatory effect on blood vessels and nerves. This is why your buddy experiences loss of sensibility (neuropathy) in his fingers. At 34 I assume he'd have type 1 diabetes, so no he wouldn't necessarily be fat.

In short, you don't have to be THAT fucked up to have that kind of heart disease at 34. Although diabetes IS a heavy hitter; I don't think people think it's as bad a disease as it really is.


Posted by Comrade Stalin on Mar-21-2018 23:38:

I need to stop eating beef.


Posted by ControlFreak18 on Mar-22-2018 00:27:

I feel like I�ve seen an increase in studies showing that saturated fat/red meat affects morbidity a lot less than previously accepted, largely because of an effort by companies that made highly processed food to downplay how harmful sugar is.



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