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Posted by Dj Pluviose on Apr-26-2020 19:43:

90s Trance guys, going 90s Trance again in 2020



Tiesto plays for an empty crowd, a livestream set he did. Checking the comments section, many people were saying the In Search of Sunrise Mix influence was heavy on this particular set. Even Tijs himself said "I'm gonna play something different today, because I can." What is your opinion on this set?



Above and Beyond messing with their classic material as of lately, has become somewhat profound moment in this whole covid 19 quarantining serendipity. Much like Tijs, A&B were on the whole commercial crap for the many years of recent..... however 2019/2020 interesting things happen I guess.

I remember meeting Above & Beyond "fans" in real life around my local area, and none of them even knew pre-2011 Above & Beyond. They only knew 2011 A&B with their newer works coming from "Filmic" album. That album was a clear departure from their distinctive iconic trance sound/style. Seeing them touch trance like this again is very intriguing.

Below Tiesto drops A*S*Y*S & Dominik Schwarz - Dark Light. Dominik Schwarz who worked with A*S*Y*S on this particular acid track, got super happy that someone recorded their track being played on a Tiesto liveset in .... ISRAEL??? of all places. Like why only Israel gets the trance set? I know this is 2019, but still.... it was just last year....





Posted by Midlothian on Apr-26-2020 20:11:

Re: 90s Trance guys, going 90s Trance again in 2020

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Originally posted by Dj Pluviose



Everytime Ferry Corsten produces new remakes of old tracks - like he did for that Gouryella album he released last year or the year before - they seem to lose much of the energy and warmth they had in their original versions, and go cold and stale. I liked the idea of him doing these remakes, but this saddens me.


Posted by Midlothian on Apr-26-2020 20:27:

Re: 90s Trance guys, going 90s Trance again in 2020

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Pluviose


Tiesto plays for an empty crowd, a livestream set he did. Checking the comments section, many people were saying the In Search of Sunrise Mix influence was heavy on this particular set. Even Tijs himself said "I'm gonna play something different today, because I can." What is your opinion on this set?



I think the point is that whenever Tiesto plays a set that has a slower tempo, a warmer sound, a certain kind of vocals, summery vibes, mellow "trancy" synth bits etc., etc., all that sort of thing, there will be people who will immediately throw in those supposed In Search of Sunrise influences, regardless of what it really is he plays. I think that is a simplistic way of looking at it. Misguided nostalgia, perhaps.

It isn't much of a trance set in that video from Tel Aviv. Looks like he takes about six minutes in total to play five old tracks at the end.


Posted by Sykonee on Apr-26-2020 22:20:

I find it funny that folks still tie In Search Of Sunrise to Tiesto. Meanwhile, Richard Durand weeps in a corner.


Posted by Dj Pluviose on Apr-26-2020 23:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Sykonee
I find it funny that folks still tie In Search Of Sunrise to Tiesto. Meanwhile, Richard Durand weeps in a corner.


Lol, you mean the fact that everybody forgot him after ISOS was passed onto him? Yeah, I remember he was passed the torch for ISOS, but nobody gave a flying f.


Posted by Midlothian on Apr-26-2020 23:31:

Re: Re: 90s Trance guys, going 90s Trance again in 2020

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Originally posted by Midlothian
cold and stale.


Speaking of which, came across this one by chance. Another stale remix of an old track. How do people who have been in this business for so long - like Helsloot - manage to produce such bland, sub par stuff?


Posted by OrangestO on Apr-27-2020 14:15:

As soon I heard him start the set with a cheesy vocal, I turned it off. What's so deep and ISOSy about that?


Posted by Sykonee on Apr-27-2020 14:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Pluviose
Lol, you mean the fact that everybody forgot him after ISOS was passed onto him? Yeah, I remember he was passed the torch for ISOS, but nobody gave a flying f.

He cranked out the same amount of volumes as Tiesto did, but no one cares. They finally jettisoned Rich' a couple years ago, and now I think Markus Schulz is the current custodian of the series.

Which just seems weird to me.

Edit:
ISOS 14, featuring Markus Schulz, Gabriel & Dresden, and Andy Moor

Fifteen years ago, this would have been one of the most talked-about releases ever. In the year 2018 tho', hardly a blip.


Posted by Midlothian on Apr-27-2020 14:39:

So that's Schulz, Moor and G&D playing a disc worth of their usual stuff each, because if they'd played anything "different", or "deep" or whatever there'd have been even less than hardly a blip. Because expectations. I don't think the sun's really risen for this series for the past decade.


Posted by DOOMBOT on Apr-28-2020 02:39:

Re: Re: 90s Trance guys, going 90s Trance again in 2020

quote:
Originally posted by Midlothian
Everytime Ferry Corsten produces new remakes of old tracks - like he did for that Gouryella album he released last year or the year before - they seem to lose much of the energy and warmth they had in their original versions, and go cold and stale. I liked the idea of him doing these remakes, but this saddens me.

He stated in an interview that he made the changes so that they would fit with the overall sound of contemporary tracks. Music is produced differently these days, with more digital technology as opposed to the analog equipment that was used years ago. Take a bass hit for example; nowadays they have more of a punchy sound but on the flip side, lose the feeling that I think you are referring to. So I get why he did it but I'm with you and still prefer the older sound.


Posted by klappa on May-03-2020 10:22:

Re: Re: Re: 90s Trance guys, going 90s Trance again in 2020

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Originally posted by DOOMBOT
He stated in an interview that he made the changes so that they would fit with the overall sound of contemporary tracks. Music is produced differently these days, with more digital technology as opposed to the analog equipment that was used years ago. Take a bass hit for example; nowadays they have more of a punchy sound but on the flip side, lose the feeling that I think you are referring to. So I get why he did it but I'm with you and still prefer the older sound.


Ferry Corsten and his peers never used analog equipment back in the days.


Posted by DOOMBOT on May-03-2020 16:39:

Re: Re: Re: Re: 90s Trance guys, going 90s Trance again in 2020

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Originally posted by klappa
Ferry Corsten and his peers never used analog equipment back in the days.

I stand corrected if this is true. He mentions in the interview the use of the Rolandd JP8000 which I believe mimics an analog sound. Here is the interview I am referring to. He makes mention how he tweaked the old tracks to fit in with the newer sounding tracks so they would work in his sets.

https://youtu.be/o8wjxSEQqiY

Also, isn't the JX10 he mentions analog?

And then TR909 he mentions here.

https://youtu.be/2K1_AeFJlmQ


Posted by LoveHate on May-08-2020 01:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Sykonee
I find it funny that folks still tie In Search Of Sunrise to Tiesto. Meanwhile, Richard Durand weeps in a corner.


weeping in a corner ??? nah he's doing more than fine.



Posted by Sykonee on May-08-2020 13:13:

quote:
Originally posted by LoveHate
weeping in a corner ??? nah he's doing more than fine.

Good for him.

ISOS still tanked under his stewardship.


Posted by LoveHate on May-08-2020 17:41:

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Originally posted by Sykonee
Good for him.

ISOS still tanked under his stewardship.


nah you're right, i just wanted to play devils advocate, and to your credit, i don't know if the isos name on itself was strong enough to be carried on ..

now asot on the other hand...there might be some brand recognition there, i could possibly see ferry corsten or someone take control...it might lose some of its steam though, but not completely fall off the face of the earth like isos ..


Posted by Sykonee on May-09-2020 00:31:

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Originally posted by LoveHate
nah you're right, i just wanted to play devils advocate, and to your credit, i don't know if the isos name on itself was strong enough to be carried on ..

Well...

Here are the number of folks that have ISOS in their collections at Discogs:

ISOS 1: 948
ISOS 2: 936
ISOS 3: 1039
ISOS 4: 1037
ISOS 5: 907
ISOS 6: 790
ISOS 7: 705
ISOS 8: 223
ISOS 9: 177
ISOS 10: 166
ISOS 11: 126
ISOS 12: 111
ISOS 13: 105
ISOS 14: 98
ISOS 15: 70

While Discoggians are hardly representative of music listeners abroad, I think this is a good sample-set of how popular the series was for a time, and how it completely fell off without any megastar DJ tagged to it.

At least, until the last two, where the Schulzer took over, which did nothing to stop the bleeding.


Posted by miamitranceman on May-14-2020 12:16:

Steve Helstrip did a great set on Twitch yesterday filled with classics. It�s fun to see these guys be able to play for themselves vs. the usual live crowds. They look liberated.



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