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Nina kraviz canceled for allegedly supporting putin

https://crackmagazine.net/2022/05/c...rip-recordings/

I wish TA would do the same regarding Lira.

Nina sux

Haha I'm inclined to agree with you both. It's also interesting to note that Nina was one of those artist that had a full tour schedule throughout covid ,so I guess she thought she was invisible to a certain degree. It has finally caught up with her.

Leave your political opinions at home, and just play music. Unless those political opinions are for the greater good of humanity,and in this case it wasn't.

While I don't particularly like her brand of music or style of DJing, this move seems rash and presumptive, unless the track titles she submitted with her new project exhibit pro-Putin propaganda.

She has since posted a statement. It sounds like she did leave her political opinions at home and that's what's caught up with her

To be silent is to be compliant?

If it's about the track titles, the label should share them. Let the gossip queens have a glance

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Originally posted by OrangestO She has since posted a statement.

Jfc, talk about trying to put up a smokescreen. How much evasive bs can one fit into a "statement"? @O.: If one just prefers to keep silent, you don't go on blaming the apogee of determinism and that blasted momentum. Look beyond the manipulation and read between the lines.

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Originally posted by OrangestO While I don't particularly like her brand of music or style of DJing, this move seems rash and presumptive, unless the track titles she submitted with her new project exhibit pro-Putin propaganda. She has since posted a statement. It sounds like she did leave her political opinions at home and that's what's caught up with her To be silent is to be compliant? If it's about the track titles, the label should share them. Let the gossip queens have a glance

Well then ....perhaps techno is not exempt from the sanctions ...even if she is totally innocent .

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Originally posted by Midlothian Jfc, talk about trying to put up a smokescreen. How much evasive bs can one fit into a "statement"? @O.: If one just prefers to keep silent, you don't go on blaming the apogee of determinism and that blasted momentum. Look beyond the manipulation and read between the lines.

She should've just stayed silent; I'd understand that position much more considering she and her family still live in Russia. In this case, silence isn't necessarily compliance.

I'm more interested in why the label made the move, anyway, and whether it was because of the project. If it was purely because of her silence, I think that's wrong.

Has her father Lenny said anything on the subject?

She hasn't been "cancelled", you idiot. Her label has been dropped by a distribution company, which just means their records won't get distributed to a few record stores until another distribution company inevitably picks them up. This doesn't mean her DJing career is affected or she's lost any gigs.

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Originally posted by OrangestO If it's about the track titles, the label should share them. Let the gossip queens have a glance

https://triprecords.bandcamp.com/al...l-his-decisions

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Originally posted by hoopoe Has her father Lenny said anything on the subject?

He just wanted to fly away high into the sky like a dragonfly.

Is she still dating Ben Blockhead?

Never seen her live, but I have watched a few sets online before and they packed a good punch. Not being afraid of trying out new sounds in a peak time set, even though the mixing sometimes suffered because of it, I think she does a good job at getting people in the crowd going and 'locked in' to her sound.

That being said, anyone who even remotely supports Putin or the chauvinistic expansive Russian Tsarism can FUCK RIGHT OFF. If she is unable to renounce that murderous regime, she should spend the rest of her dj'ing career performing in remote corners of Russia.

If there is ever a black or white situation, then this is it. Everything Putin and his comrades stand for is a lie based upon more lies.

internet crapped out during my previous post, will make this a spark notes version

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Originally posted by djthunderbird Never seen her live, but I have watched a few sets online before and they packed a good punch. Not being afraid of trying out new sounds in a peak time set, even though the mixing sometimes suffered because of it, I think she does a good job at getting people in the crowd going and 'locked in' to her sound.

she sux/her crowd sux/instagram dj/mixing shitty trance with shitty techno sux.

BLM couldn't cancel her, being russian and pro putin shouldn't be a surprise. can't see this effecting her negatively.

btw she sux

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J This doesn't mean her DJing career is affected or she's lost any gigs.

https://ra.co/news/77305

Plot twist!

I did see that and was going to share it in here, but I've been busy trying to scrape my brain up off the floor after the weekend. My original point was that any number of idiots on social media don't seem to understand what a distribution company actually does, and are assuming Kraviz has been blanket "cancelled", and obviously our resident intellectual LoveHate took the exact same line.

I think it's a bit weak that festival promoters have suddenly started dropping her in a "monkey see monkey do" reaction, which shows how vacuous and herd-mentality a lot of these type of gestures are. But Kraviz still has a stacked tour diary, and I would be very surprised if she gets dropped from every single event.

As for the actual issue, it's a tricky one. If she does live in Moscow then vocally opposing the war could bring the Russian government down heavily on her head. I wouldn't blame any Russian resident citizen for keeping quiet in the current climate, and I also don't remember British or American DJs having to publicly denounce the Iraq war back in 2003 in order to keep their gigs. However, there's also a definite whiff of evasiveness about her actions and her statement. The extremely vague pseudo-philosophising about determinism certainly suggests that Russia's actions were forced upon it by geopolitical currents, which is backdoor apologism and complete bullshit.

But then, left wing political idols like Jeremy Corbyn have effectively said the exact same thing, so pick the bones out of that dog's dinner of righteous pose-striking.

I might be an ignoramus, but I am not an idiot.

We're all a little dumb on here. Don't take it personally.

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Originally posted by JEO We're all a little dumb on here. Don't take it personally.

Thank you , brother.

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Originally posted by LoveHate I might be an ignoramus, but I am not an idiot.

How are the crypto investments going?

Actually The Crave Festival 2022 at The Hague already cancelled her before this thread was started. She was headliner there.
https://voorburgsdagblad.nl/Den%20H...-dj-nina-kraviz

Question is if she will be at the Awakenings Festival here.

Aren't we all happy TA had it's "peak" when it did? I can't imagine half the content that was posted here, much of it without a second thought, would show itself the light of day today (aka stuff in c0r).

As for festivals cancelling Nina.... tough situation that I'm sure organizers would rather not have to deal with but with it's a "hot potato" and dropping her to save headaches isn't at all surprising.

Is there really any proof of her explicitly supporting Putin before all this? Because if there isn't, it feels quite unfounded in my opinion. Lots of Russians stay silent about what's going on because of a fear of being recognized by the authorities and having to go through a very elaborately planned beating in custody. Her being quite recognizable.. Yeah I wouldn't really get my panties in a twist just because she hasn't hoped for the death of Putin.

If she's somehow supported Putin before this, or if she has the gall to somehow support Putin during all this, like Lira, then that's a very different thing.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J How are the crypto investments going?

investing in a laundromat would have been better, in retrospect.

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