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If we can only listen to pre-2010 or post-2010 dance music forever, which would it be?

The year 2010 is completely arbitrary and this thread is purely fantasy but if you can only pick one, which would it be?

Post-2010 because you can always hope for a remix?

After all, Charlotte de Witte has just remixed Age of Love, Deborah de Luca remade Children, and I'm sure there are plenty of other options. It's a bit more difficult to have it the other way around unless we hire some theoretical physicists with a time machine

Tru tru. Pre-2010 has 20+ years of dance music for enjoyment while post-2010 has unlimited potential.

A more interesting situation would be if, somehow, the entirety of pre-2010 electronic dance music was erased from collective memory, would any of those old classics ever be recreated? For argument's sake, let's also include any post-2010 remixes or remakes of pre-2010s tracks.

Basically, January 1, 2010 starts Year Zero, and everything that was created after then is all there ever has been.


/has been watching a bit too much Alternate History Hub

I've been listening to a lot minimal lately ...pre 2010 so I'd go with that ...I think a lot of the current stuff is some sort of tribute to older music anyway.

So the choice is between 30+ years of dance music... or 12 years?

Yes, I just assumed this would be an easy choice due to people's preference of tracks and artists

I only listen to swinging circus house from 2010

Yes, everything on vinyl for both options.

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Originally posted by Sykonee A more interesting situation would be if, somehow, the entirety of pre-2010 electronic dance music was erased from collective memory, would any of those old classics ever be recreated?

The synth based genres? I'd think so, to some very limited extent.

It's very likely that at least some of the melodies would be recreated, because there's only so much you can do with a common run off the mill chord progression. Of course, there wouldn't be an exact replica, as you don't see any kids from Brno suddenly remaking Caf� Del Mar without ever hearing it before, but proof something like this would definitely happen are the frivolous lawsuits random artists file against superstars because "they came up with a melody first".

However, producers now have a much wider range of gear to choose from and streaming has forced most producers to abandon those week long build-ups of yesteryear, so I like to think the newer versions would be better by defaut and I'd expect no real exact copies.

The sample based genres? Now that's trickier... I'm not entirely sure someone would end up remaking the Rockafeller Skank these days unless they're really into 60's and 70's music, for example, and it would take one really weird kid to do that now. Maybe Spotify would be a blassing in this sense.

trap and grime remixs of cafe del mar please. yung 52 and lil energy colab

I did post that as bit of a joke, but thinking about it more, that scenario does leave some fascinating situations in its wake.

For instance, it basically erases Aphex Twin's influence on so-o-o-o much of electronic music. And nor could you say, "Well, someone else could do something similar", because so much of what Richard D. James created in those early years was with his own, custom-made gear, and almost entirely on the fly as inspiration hit him.

I'll allow that this scenario allows for anything that was made in the post-2010 era does still exist, so any music in that era that was influenced by Aphex Twin can still exist, but I find the odds of another run like Mr. James' '90s occurring infinitesimally small.

You must be a fan of nonsensical time travel paradox movies.

aphid twin sucks

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Originally posted by Sykonee A more interesting situation would be if, somehow, the entirety of pre-2010 electronic dance music was erased from collective memory, would any of those old classics ever be recreated? For argument's sake, let's also include any post-2010 remixes or remakes of pre-2010s tracks. Basically, January 1, 2010 starts Year Zero, and everything that was created after then is all there ever has been. /has been watching a bit too much Alternate History Hub

This is beyond my level of understanding

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J You must be a fan of nonsensical time travel paradox movies.

I mostly prefer madcap multiverse movies.

/Jet Li's "The One" is a classic, #ChangeMyMind

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Originally posted by Sykonee A more interesting situation would be if, somehow, the entirety of pre-2010 electronic dance music was erased from collective memory, would any of those old classics ever be recreated?

This would make an excellent topic while having a few beers in a pub. My opinion could go either way, but at the moment I'm leaning towards NO.

Several reasons. First and foremost, I think that the beginnings of electronic music were very strictly rooted in the socio-economic structures of the times and places where this music was created. To a large extent it was escapism from the 'ordinary world'. Circumstances today are different.

Secondly I'm a firm believer in "happy accidents". Loads of sounds that came to define certain genres of electronic music and which later became tropes were discovered by accident. To this category I add your 303 acid basslines, larger than life hoover sounds etc. Of course some sounds would probably still be discovered today. Perhaps the happy piano house sound, but would it be as soulful as it once were?

Thirdly I lean on the Infinite Monkey Theorem which in short proves that even if we filled our observable universe with monkeys on typewriters, they still wouldnt be able to come up with Romeo & Juliet.

So yeah, if somehow we lost all of the pre 2010 electronic music catalogue, the tunes and sounds would most likely never be recreated. We would definitely have some new stuff though that we cant have today because of the influence of these eras.

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Originally posted by djthunderbird Secondly I'm a firm believer in "happy accidents". Loads of sounds that came to define certain genres of electronic music and which later became tropes were discovered by accident. To this category I add your 303 acid basslines, larger than life hoover sounds etc. Of course some sounds would probably still be discovered today. Perhaps the happy piano house sound, but would it be as soulful as it once were? Thirdly I lean on the Infinite Monkey Theorem which in short proves that even if we filled our observable universe with monkeys on typewriters, they still wouldnt be able to come up with Romeo & Juliet.

Think of a track like Spastik, essentially recorded in one take as a live jam session with Roland drum machines. It's been remixed and remade countless times, but folks still seem to gravitate towards the Plastikman original. Now it no longer exists, and though in 2010 we have all the software available to emulate those machines, would anyone else have as serendipitous a moment like Hawtin did in crafting such an iconic tune?

Incidentally, I think Matt kinda' fluked out in choosing 2010 as the cut-off point in this discussion. In my opinion, that was about the time when (with a few exceptions) electronic dance music basically stopped evolving and became about refining everything that already existed. Thus, everything exists and is possible, but we have no knowledge of how it came into being.

Erm, this suddenly became a bit Biblical, hasn't it...

I love how much mental energy you two are expending on such a nonsensical scenario.

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Originally posted by djthunderbird Thirdly I lean on the Infinite Monkey Theorem which in short proves that even if we filled our observable universe with monkeys on typewriters, they still wouldnt be able to come up with Romeo & Juliet.

That's the exact opposite of what the Infinite Monkey Theorem states.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I love how much mental energy you two are expending on such a nonsensical scenario.

We have become those two dudes in Human Traffic, eh?


/Cafe del Mar can suddenly be heard playing in the background

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Originally posted by djthunderbird Thirdly I lean on the Infinite Monkey Theorem which in short proves that even if we filled our observable universe with monkeys on typewriters, they still wouldnt be able to come up with Romeo & Juliet.

That's not what the theorem proves?

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