What Political idea are you most passionate about?

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Posted by inatrance on Nov-19-2002 04:34:

What Political idea are you most passionate about?

It would be interesting to hear, what would be #1 on your agenda if you had political power, what matters most to YOU?

go in to detail if you would like, and why it is the most important, I think this could turn into a rather interesting thread

inatrance

Posted by Arbiter on Nov-23-2002 19:43:

Hmm, shame this thread hasn't got more attention.

For me, it has got to be the separation of church and state. There's nothing more offensive to me that people pushing values on you that are derived from ancient myths.

Posted by PeacefulWarrior on Nov-24-2002 01:32:

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Originally posted by Arbiter
For me, it has got to be the separation of church and state. There's nothing more offensive to me that people pushing values on you that are derived from ancient myths.

This also pisses me off. And it doesn't have to only involve religious values. The extremes of any group (i.e. political, religous/moral, social) blindly insist that their position is "the way." Let people make up their own minds and think for themselves.

Posted by Arbiter on Nov-24-2002 01:50:

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Originally posted by PeacefulWarrior
This also pisses me off. And it doesn't have to only involve religious values. The extremes of any group (i.e. political, religous/moral, social) blindly insist that their position is "the way." Let people make up their own minds and think for themselves.

You're absolutely right, it's not the religions that are the problem, it's people's unwillingness to respect each others individuality.

Posted by dr me on Nov-24-2002 12:33:

mine is freedom, simple really. although absolute freedom is liable to abuse, i still want it.

Posted by Verona^My on Nov-24-2002 16:13:

right now alternative energy... but no one talks about it in the US... The idea is twofold, to financially bankrupt enemy arab nations, and to make the US have a more self sufficient energy policy... We'd also be a lot richer country by not giving the arab oil barons so much money for their oil.

A shorter term plan would be to work with the Russians to help them produce more oil and arrange a deal with the Russians. Russians need money, we need oil, etc.

Posted by Verona^My on Nov-24-2002 16:14:

quote:
Originally posted by dr me
mine is freedom, simple really. although absolute freedom is liable to abuse, i still want it.

absolute freedom would be fun, I'd buy a gun and kill someone, others would do the same, and scare everyone into submission. (hence my opinion that absolute freedom can not exist)

Posted by dr me on Nov-24-2002 20:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Verona^My
absolute freedom would be fun, I'd buy a gun and kill someone, others would do the same, and scare everyone into submission. (hence my opinion that absolute freedom can not exist)

its the principal that counts. anyways, scaring everyone into submission would no longer mean freedom. and also ppl are scared shit nowadays anyway.

Posted by Philby on Nov-25-2002 07:10:

hmm
R 18+ classification for video and computer games

i dunno if other countries have it but we dont in australia. it means anything that isnt suitable for ma 15+ will be banned or censored enough to make it suitable for other classifications. i dont know why there is no 18+ classification, perhaps the OFLC (office of film and literature classification) still thinks that only kids play games and there isnt anyone over 18 who gets them! but if i was in politics somehow then i would push for that. it just pisses me off.

Posted by Arbiter on Nov-25-2002 07:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Philby
hmm
R 18+ classification for video and computer games

i dunno if other countries have it but we dont in australia. it means anything that isnt suitable for ma 15+ will be banned or censored enough to make it suitable for other classifications. i dont know why there is no 18+ classification, perhaps the OFLC (office of film and literature classification) still thinks that only kids play games and there isnt anyone over 18 who gets them! but if i was in politics somehow then i would push for that. it just pisses me off.

Age discrimination is another issue that really bothers me. There is no good justification for it that can't also be used to justify discrimination on the basis of intelligence (of course, we'd probably do that too if we could measure it as easily as age). If a 12 year old should happen to be exceptionally mature for his age, there is no justification for a law that prevents him from, say, drinking, just because most of the people his age could not handle the responsibility.

Posted by Nadi on Nov-25-2002 07:25:

While it's certantly not the thing I'm most pationate about, the one thing I'd look to change if I was in a position of power, is the innefeciency of the public school system.

Posted by Verona^My on Nov-25-2002 11:14:

quote:
Originally posted by dr me
its the principal that counts. anyways, scaring everyone into submission would no longer mean freedom. and also ppl are scared shit nowadays anyway.

that would be a natural result of absolute freedom though.. the idea that anyone can freely kill anyone would be the biggest blow to freedom itself anyways. Therefore you need governments to set the framework whereby freedom can exist. Without social order you can have no freedom & without government you can have no social order. Small tribes are an exception as they are too small to need a strong established governance.

Posted by dr me on Nov-25-2002 13:34:

this reminds me of a simpson's episode.

captain of submarine: what do you want simpson?

homer: i want peas

captain: we all want peace...[something i can't remember]... but how do get it?

homer: with a knife

captain: thats right, not with [???]

pretty bad quoting huh?

Posted by SNAFU_man on Nov-26-2002 08:59:

education - too many ignorant people

campaign finance reform - too much money in politics

Posted by webmeister on Nov-26-2002 12:07:

quote:
Originally posted by dr me
captain: thats right, not with the olive branch, but with the bayonet!
pretty bad quoting huh?

quoting = better now

back on topic, if I had political power in Australia, all my goals would be accomplished, as John Howard would have been removed from power

Posted by inatrance on Nov-27-2002 05:43:

things on top of my agenda, that would break my conservatism

1) recognition of global warming, taking steps to solve the issue.. which leads to #2
2) alternative energy, hydrogen... omg WHY ARE WE USING OIL...as it has been stated before, I whole heartedly agree, put a dent in the arab nations.
3) USA's national debt... about 1/3 of our taxes go just to pay for interest on our evergrowing debt.... we must get rid of it... but politicians really dont give a hoot, because they are only in for 2-6 years, and as long as everyones happy while they are in office they will get reelected (which I understand)... but it should not be that way.. someone should stand up and fix it
4) Seperation of church and state, I think that church and state should be seperate. period. no 10 commandments in the alabama courthouse, etc.. people have the freedom to do as they choose in that sector.
5) No federal funding to send children to private schools, they are not better than the children who attend public schools, there is no reason that more tax dollars should go to send one child to a private school, more than another.

ha hmm.. basically I thought of everything that I would change about the republicans, I guess other than those issues, I support them... (not the pro-life ideal though).... My political viewpoint for hte most part is conservative, but most people will agree with me, there needs to be change.... I'm just taking what I see as the right steps :P