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Posted by ChrisT on Nov-19-2002 14:25:

HardHouse VS Trance

what do the tranceaddicts like most? personally i prefer hard house. also wot category would dj kim jet lag (alpha zone remix) come under? (hard house or trance)


Posted by Az on Nov-19-2002 14:30:

Hardhouse is dead
also that tune is hard trance


Posted by Prototrance on Nov-19-2002 14:56:

I think that all who listen to and play hard house need to attend a musical re-education course. It's terible, the playground of un-talented producers who jumped on a bandwagon which now thankfully has stopped.
I think all those people who abandoned trance in 2001 in favour of hard house should ashamed of themselves.
Sorry to sound harsh but I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hard house


Posted by MoonMan on Nov-19-2002 15:02:

Hard House reminds me of Rave/Hardcore, and all it is, is music without emotion and build up. Tidy Boys can kiss my arse


Posted by Djeebie on Nov-19-2002 15:03:

Trance all the way baby. No hardhouse/trance (hardstyle) for me anymore. I stopped listening to it quite a while ago. It became boring very quick. For me everything from Dumonde and Cosmic Gate to Scot Project and Hennes & Cold to the real hardstyle like Technoboy, Dana and Pavo... it's too simple and monotonous for me. That doesn't mean I wouldn't go crazy in a club when they spin their tunes, but I prefer the 'softer' music.

I listen to various styles nowaydays, but mostly trance, progressive and techno (e.g. Mr. Sam, Ti�sto, Armin van Buuren, Filterheadz, Lexicon Avenue, James Holden, Oxia, The Hacker). Much more my style.


Posted by ChrisT on Nov-19-2002 15:05:

right then. i will change the question to HARD TRANCE VS NON HARD TRANCE


Posted by Prototrance on Nov-19-2002 15:10:

I do like hard trance, but proper hard trance like Norman DJ - Go back.
But my passion/obsession has always been the softer trance i.e Chicane, Solar Stone, York, Ferry, Tiesto, Armin, Flash etc etc etc


Posted by Sand Leaper on Nov-19-2002 15:26:

Hard house ain't dead.Just cos Tidy Trax with their nauseating hoover hell seems to get all the attention nowadays doesn't mean that the genre is bust.Check out the likes of OD404,BK & Nick Sentience,Knuckleheadz and labels like Tripoli Trax and Nukleuz to get a glimpse of the good stuff.

As always,I like hardhouse as long as it is creative and not the same-old same-old hoover and blaring synth-boshing,like Tidy Trax and Sundissential keep churning out these days.


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Nov-19-2002 15:32:

Re: HardHouse VS Trance

quote:
Originally posted by ChrisT
what do the tranceaddicts like most? personally i prefer hard house. also wot category would dj kim jet lag (alpha zone remix) come under? (hard house or trance)


Hmm i prefer trance. But i do like a bit of hard house...

also i dont think people really understand what hard house is.. i mean for example. the fact that u just asked could Jet Lag possibly be hard house proves u dont really no what it is. And i see that a lot nowadays, people mistaking Hard House for Hard Trance. There is a major differece. I always recommend people listen to the Hard House Euphoria sereies and the Tidy Boys and Tidy Girls Annual to get a good idea what its all about. I dont think its dead, but trance is better


Posted by HLDSHA003 on Nov-19-2002 15:55:

Tidy bashing

I think u got it wrong when u accuse tidy of putting out "synth bashing hoovers"..its not like that anymore..just check out guyver/riot bros new offering..as well as the freak

And also i think its important to keep an open mind..6 months ago i wouldnt have given a BK tune ANY attention..but now i think twice..Revolution was awesome and was even included in one of ferry corsten's sets during his 4 hour show with armin earlier this year..it all depends on how it can fit in a set and what affect it could have on the crowd when played/positioned correctly..music is fusing..hard,uplifting,techy,breaks..when put together by talented producers the combination is exciting and dancefloor devastating!!

Cheers
Shaun


Posted by Kinde on Nov-19-2002 16:06:

Hard house ranks up there with black metal as the music genre I despise the most. Absolute rubbish, polution to my ears.


Posted by Fundamental on Nov-19-2002 16:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Prototrance
I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hard house


..sounded like a hard house bassline there.


Posted by Sand Leaper on Nov-19-2002 16:10:

quote:
originally posted byHLDSHA003I think u got it wrong when u accuse tidy of putting out "synth bashing hoovers"..its not like that anymore..just check out guyver/riot bros new offering..as well as the freak

And also i think its important to keep an open mind..6 months ago i wouldnt have given a BK tune ANY attention..but now i think twice..Revolution was awesome and was even included in one of ferry corsten's sets during his 4 hour show with armin earlier this year..it all depends on how it can fit in a set and what affect it could have on the crowd when played/positioned correctly..music is fusing..hard,uplifting,techy,breaks..when put together by talented producers the combination is exciting and dancefloor devastating!!



Well,the last comp I heard from Tidy was full of those synth mashers that I described,but I've heard good things about Guyvver and Riot Bros. over the last few weeks...so I'll check it out.Thanks for the heads upTotally agree with the other things you said...open-mindedness is the key!


Posted by DJ-Ande on Nov-19-2002 16:22:

Dancing Dude

like both


(thats all i can realy say)


Posted by SugarShack on Nov-19-2002 18:36:

Im mainly into hard trance / hard style i.e. yoji biomehanika, scot project, fluctlicht, shokk, dumonde, cosmic gate.I hated the old hardhouse all hoovers and shit and the off beat bass but the new stuff can be mint stuff like BK revolution its getting some techno elements and is starting to sound more grown up


Posted by biznology on Nov-19-2002 18:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Kinde
Hard house ranks up there with black metal as the music genre I despise the most. Absolute rubbish, polution to my ears.



haha well put|


Posted by MindShifter on Nov-21-2002 07:24:

Hmmmmmmmmmmm I like both, but I really prefer hard trance, I'd say that I listen to hard trance 95% of the time as opposed to hard house.
Flutlicht, Shokk, Alphazone, etc.

However I don't think that people give Nick Sentience the credit that he deserves, its kinda funny to see people so taken aback by BK all of a sudden, he and Nick have worked together on several tracks.

Nick Sentience & BK - Flash
Nick Sentience & BK - Injected w/ a Poison
Nick Sentience & BK - Soundman

Flash being my favorite outta the three.

Oh well just my opinion on the subject, nothing more, nothing less.


Posted by Sand Leaper on Nov-21-2002 08:41:

small correction

quote:
Nick Sentience & BK - Injected w/ a Poison


This tune is actually by Pragha Khan.BK & Nick have remixed it.

Trainspotter Sand Leaper strikes again....


Posted by MindShifter on Nov-21-2002 08:50:

Re: small correction

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
This tune is actually by Pragha Khan.BK & Nick have remixed it.


Ope!!!! You are right, good eye!


Posted by Tony Morello on Nov-21-2002 09:07:

i play hard house and some hard trance
personally, i love hard house
playing it just gives me a rush
the raw energy and all that while people go off to your tunes
it's just amazing

i think it's an accquired taste

for good hard house, check out honeypot
that label is the best for any hard style tune
that's what label i'm going to be buying from the most from now on

tidy used to be all about the over-use of hoovers... personally, i don't like it
i know, being a hard house dj, i should like hoovers, but over-use of the hoover can become sick

but lately tidy has been releasing some decnet tunes
usually though i stick with nukleuz and honeypot mainly

my style is all about the rolling bassline... it just sounds so good on a big party system

okie dokie, you may now flame away
/me puts on flame retardant suit


Posted by 24K on Nov-21-2002 10:16:

I used to play Hardhouse when I first started spinning,,, mainley because it was the first style of electronic music I was introduced to here in Vancouver. I guess I baught about 150 hardhouse and some hard trance records,,, and they're all awesome records,,, at least better than any of the records that hardhouse dj's stil play in this city. But honestly,,, once I started learning more about music and actually paying attention to trance and progressive,,, it just doesn't compare in my eyes. Sure it's fun to listen once in awhile,,, and there's no denying the energy you can get from a crowd that is into it,,, but trance and progressive IMO is so much nicer to listen to and so much more of an 'intellegent sound'. It's not that I don't like my hardhouse records anymore,, it's just that I have 300 other trance and progressive records that I'd play over the hardhouse. I like spinning trance and progressive because you can actually take people on a journey and see the emotion that your set creates,,, as opposed to mindless BANG BANG BANG BANG (although like I said it can be fun at times).


Posted by k-cee on Nov-21-2002 10:28:

Hard House has to be the most VILEST music I have heard! Same goes for hard trance. Just my opinion!


Posted by escee on Nov-21-2002 15:10:

trance > the stuff that comes out my ass > hard house.


Posted by basd on Nov-21-2002 16:04:

Please don't get me started on this hardhouse 'phenomenon'


Posted by kr00t0n on Nov-21-2002 17:52:

Seeing as the genres are subbing themselves more and more, here my take:

Hard House (Ingo, Tidy Boys) = boring shite
Hi-NRG Trance (Nick Sentience, Marcos) = I likey, but only some.
Hard Trance (Flutlicht, Scot P) = My daddy at the mo, LOVE IT!!
Trance House (Ralphie B, Rank 1) = My first love.
Trance House (Tiesto, Riva) = Too slow for my tastes.

That is my music according to me


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