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Posted by Bedrock on Nov-21-2002 14:28:

The Big Deal About James Holden

what is it with trancers and James Holden? I'm at a loss to why his productions are viewed as trance, and yet most progressive house gets passed as 'boring'?

Posted by robstar on Nov-21-2002 14:35:

Dunno(?)

Personaly I don't consider Holder Progressive House!
He's just progressive too me!

Posted by SmellsExcellent on Nov-21-2002 14:38:

theyre just fucking beautiful, man!

'nuff said.

-marc

Posted by Elyksir on Nov-21-2002 14:56:

yeah

quote:
Originally posted by SmellsExcellent
theyre just fucking beautiful, man!

'nuff said.

-marc

hell yeah!!!!!
but really, can you compare eg. 'one for you' and other prog stuff and still label it as PROGRESSIVE HOUSE?????
i don't...

greets

Posted by amit on Nov-21-2002 14:58:

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Posted by escee on Nov-21-2002 15:04:

i think its because some trancers feel dirty if they listen to progressive.

Posted by Bedrock on Nov-21-2002 15:05:

Re: yeah

quote:
Originally posted by Elixir
hell yeah!!!!!
but really, can you compare eg. 'one for you' and other prog stuff and still label it as PROGRESSIVE HOUSE?????
i don't...

greets

saying One For You is not prog house is laughable!

Posted by basd on Nov-21-2002 15:56:

Re: Re: yeah

quote:
Originally posted by Bedrock
saying One For You is not prog house is laughable!

*yawn*
Putting every track in its own small labeled box is laughable.

Why do people want to classify every track they hear? More important, why do people argue about bs like this? Just enjoy it..
*/yawn*

Posted by nrGeorge on Nov-21-2002 16:12:

Re: Re: Re: yeah

quote:
Originally posted by basd
*yawn*
Putting every track in its own small labeled box is laughable.

Why do people want to classify every track they hear? More important, why do people argue about bs like this? Just enjoy it..
*/yawn*

these are wise words !!! don't worry about the style and categorizing a tune or an artist.just enjoy the music

Posted by Stanza on Nov-21-2002 16:51:

Who cares. James Holden produces quality stuff, whether you want to call it trance or progressive.

Posted by [mart] on Nov-21-2002 17:51:

Wasn't it previously decided that James Holden's style is 'pixie trance'?

Posted by Elyksir on Nov-21-2002 18:59:

Re: Re: yeah

quote:
Originally posted by Bedrock
saying One For You is not prog house is laughable!

i don't find it...

and yes, categorizing is stupid, it's all about good music and holden is great at what he does...

Posted by biznology on Nov-21-2002 19:03:

the big deal is that he makes good shit, and most trance fans can appreciate it.

the same way most prog heads CANT appreciate uplifting and most uplifters cant appreciate prog...those who are inbetween can see whats good about both, and like it...

and dont bother trying to label it cause no one knows what they are talking about|

Posted by vmc on Nov-21-2002 19:04:

I don't consider his stuff house, it's progressive I guess. Too little high hats for house (for example).

Posted by sektile on Nov-21-2002 19:15:

james holding fucking owns.

if you ask me, id label him 'progressive trance' - whatever it is labeled as its still ownage

Posted by capricorn15 on Nov-21-2002 19:56:

maybe becasue of his song horizons, that sounds like trance to me, but i like progressive too, so i dont really care

Posted by shoXx on Nov-21-2002 20:07:

quote:
Originally posted by liquidxxd
maybe becasue of his song horizons, that sounds like trance to me, but i like progressive too, so i dont really care

Please check your pm-box m8.

Posted by Holden Forevah! on Nov-21-2002 20:19:

I agree with Basd here

quote:
Originally posted by basd
*yawn*
Putting every track in its own small labeled box is laughable.

Why do people want to classify every track they hear? More important, why do people argue about bs like this? Just enjoy it..
*/yawn*

I have to agree with Basd on this one. As you may see in my profile I'm a huge admirer of the "stuff" James produces, but I never wondered for a minute what style it's supposed to be. Who cares? The only time it mattered was on Innercity 2001 cause they had to put him in a hall. They chose the "progressive hall" for him, but I would have listened to him if he was in the "Full of shit hall" (yeah, I know, it doesn't exist but it would be fun if they had one ) as well. As long as he remains the number one dj I'll always go where he goes, nomather how they call it.

I've always wondered what it is with house and the box-mentality. Just enjoy the music whatever it's called. Grtz Crazy K.C.

Posted by netw3rkd on Nov-21-2002 20:57:

Dude we all know epic trance is DA SHIT!!! Tiesto is the best DJ in the world and armin owns you all. EPIC TRANCE 4 EVAR DAWg

! ;x

Posted by Ste on Nov-21-2002 21:01:

Re: The Big Deal About James Holden

quote:
Originally posted by Bedrock
what is it with trancers and James Holden? I'm at a loss to why his productions are viewed as trance, and yet most progressive house gets passed as 'boring'?

because theyre arrogant ****s and try to re-pigionhole music they like?

ive always thought holden as a prog house dj/producer. i dont knwo where the fuck the trance element comes from in some peoples minds...

Posted by George Kendall on Nov-21-2002 21:37:

James Holden - Nothing (returning 93 mix)

This is prog house with trancey elemnts, theres much much more of a trance structure to Holdens music than a lot of prog house producers.

Hes not trance but he wouldn't be out of place playing a longside trance djs

Posted by Cobalt on Nov-21-2002 22:26:

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Posted by Elyksir on Nov-21-2002 22:46:

quote:
Originally posted by X-Hale
Hes not trance but he wouldn't be out of place playing a longside trance djs

wasn't he resident @ passion, playing more with trance than prog djs?

i liked what he said about prog in mixmag and how was he dancing at bedrock party... lol...