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Posted by limin_li on Nov-23-2002 06:51:

Best Buy is selling DJ equipment.

Okay, I don't know if you all know, but I checked out Best Buy website, and they are starting to sell Technics SL-1200 and Pioneer CDJ and DJM series. At first glance, I thought, "Okay, maybe Best Buy will give me a good on DJ equipments." But Best Buy is a nationwide electronic super store. If they are selling DJ Gear, then every kid on block want to be a DJ. I am sure it's just waste of good money. I've talk to friends that was into DJing, but they never touch or spin with a DJ gear. They end up reselling them at lower price. That is not smart. Now another thing. What does this means to us professional DJ. We work our butt off to mix and get new records. Thank god, it didnt cost me a life for djing. Me and you the person who works very hard for our passion may just end it because some idiot DJ is out there performing for the first time, and totally blew it. Best Buy is giving us Djs a bad name. We might as well go search for another career. Well that just my 2 cents..Drop a line below me.


Posted by TranceLuver4evr on Nov-23-2002 07:21:

What?

DJing is become more popular and that's probably why Best Buy is trying to mank more profit by selling the equitment...........thats a business strategy

So your point is keep the DJ equitment on the down low in a local store??


Posted by Taub on Nov-23-2002 07:39:

lol what you trying to say?


that best buy selling dj equipment will make you a bad dj? how the hell would that be? if you are good you will be good, if you arent you just suck.

And its a good thing to see best buy selling dj equpiment...its just means that dj culture/EDM is getting more popular in the states and thats a very good thing for any dj who is trying to make it big, now there will be a better chance for you to get big. If more companies started looking at thigs as best buy is doing...EDM will pick up a lot of poupularity in the states and isnt that what we all want? try make others be aware of what we have instead of just holding it to outselves ?


Posted by limin_li on Nov-23-2002 08:15:

I rather have my thoat cut then seen a fucking idiot comes up to me and say "look at me, I can DJ." You are probably wondering. But I don't want Electronic Music to expand. I am here for a reason, to DJ and soon to make music. The reason why I said this is because, DJing is a private hobby. It should stay in a form of private. What's next, BB start to sell vinyls... What's next, these stupid ass raver kid who doesn't know jack shit about Djing comes to BB and starting buying crap. Now back to what I was saying, EDM is not like your avagrage Justin Timberlake and Britney Spears. It should stay underground.


Posted by Srezic on Nov-23-2002 08:32:

quote:
Originally posted by limin_li
I rather have my thoat cut then seen a fucking idiot comes up to me and say "look at me, I can DJ." You are probably wondering. But I don't want Electronic Music to expand. I am here for a reason, to DJ and soon to make music. The reason why I said this is because, DJing is a private hobby. It should stay in a form of private. What's next, BB start to sell vinyls... What's next, these stupid ass raver kid who doesn't know jack shit about Djing comes to BB and starting buying crap. Now back to what I was saying, EDM is not like your avagrage Justin Timberlake and Britney Spears. It should stay underground.


I agree with a few of your points, though I don't see what the problem is with Best Buy sellin DJ Equipment. Sure, it may be opening up EDM a little to the public, but who cares. In my opinion, EDM should never and will never be mainstream though. But any kid who comes up to you sayin "hey look, i can DJ" just tell him "you think you can DJ? check this out" or somethin, and show him your skills, or just ignore him, knowing he doesn't know shit. Or, let him in on the underground scene and help him become more knowledgable. Don't just diss any starting dj guy just cuz they get their equip through a electronics store like Best Buy. Try and help a guy out. And if he still doesn't get it, THEN you can give up on him =P


Posted by limin_li on Nov-23-2002 08:44:

Props to Ryan. Thank you for your input.


Posted by Taub on Nov-23-2002 09:53:

its people like you that i hate in the scene.....dude wtf? why wouldnt you want others to expierence what you are expierncing? the feeling you get when you listen to a sick track or get a song nicley beat matched?
EDM will go big in the states and it has to...its just starting to pick up here and the US is a big market, if more and more big name djs market themelves very well...you just wait and see where EMD will be in about 10 years also more djs form europe aren focusing their attention on the US and thats anoteher sign that EMD is getting big here.

I always try to bring in new people to the scene by making them a cd of good trance singles or a live set and show them what real music to me is and what the electronica scene has to offer. This is one of the best ways to make the scene grow by you brinig in others...if you keep on saying "i dont want others to like EMD and for EDM to grow" then you seriously have some negative views there....the whole point is to help the scene grow and not keep it restricted to the udnerground or just to your gorup of friends.

If amit didnt tell you about TA would you be in this little community we call TrancEaddict? no! Amit has brought on soo many DCTAs on to tranceaddict...there is a need for more people like him, with his views. Look at him now....he digs prog, but he doesnt say "ohh prog is only for me" no he doesnt, but what does he do? he shares his songs with other and try to educate them and show them what prog has to offer so others can expiernce what he expirences. Just like that you have to show non EDM listners what EMD has to offer.
when you got into trance/EDM did other help you at all with finding tracks and helping your knowledge about the music grow? i am pretty sure there has been someone like that for everyone here on TA and thats what we all should do tooo

Look over in Europe....is trance/EDM very popular? yes its on MTV, on the TOP 10 charts, its all over the TV, radio and even widley used in commericals. And it will be the same here in the states in a matter of years. More and more big festivals will come up in the stats, look at ULTRA, they expanding to nyc , the AREA tour has done very well, creamfiles was supposed to happen but it didnt but if they try in say 2 years it will fly.....and there will be more and more festival type events in the US...you cant stop it, but jsut stop with the negative attitude by saying things like "ohh i am cool becuase i listen to trance" or "trance is only for me"

Best buy is doing something good for the scene and we need more companies like them here...doing something postive for the scene

Also with EMD gettign more pouplar...more arits/producers and djs in the sence will get paid more for their work, isnt that what we all want? or woudl you just like to sit back and see all these pop stars selll 5 million alubms and make millions and millions while a dj doesnt even make that much?wouldnt you like to walk into borders or virgin and see you fav djs album and not worry about getting it speical orderd or getting it form somewhere in europe?
woudlnt you want this situation to improve so that when you hit it big that you will get paid much more than what djs now make?




Posted by jdat on Nov-23-2002 10:09:

NOW I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU !!!!!


what's your point of view on that DMX2 crap thingy ( kinda not sure about the name )

they had adverts on TV and they made dj ing with vinyl look like shit


Posted by Srezic on Nov-23-2002 17:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Taub
you just wait and see where EMD will be in about 10 years also more djs form europe aren focusing their attention on the US and thats anoteher sign that EMD is getting big here.


Also, it is a sign that the european scene is like the pop scene here: too many people copying other peoples styles. Its just the normal over there, the Djs wanna expand and get new people into the scene from countries where EDM is not the mainstream, and possibly underground.

I don't hope EDM goes totally mainstream like some britney spears(nothin wrong with looking at britney, but listenin is the problem =P) crap, but I also don't hope it stays so far underground that someone would have a hard time ever finding out about it.


Posted by amit on Nov-23-2002 17:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Taub
its people like you that i hate in the scene.....dude wtf? why wouldnt you want others to expierence what you are expierncing? the feeling you get when you listen to a sick track or get a song nicley beat matched?
EDM will go big in the states and it has to...its just starting to pick up here and the US is a big market, if more and more big name djs market themelves very well...you just wait and see where EMD will be in about 10 years also more djs form europe aren focusing their attention on the US and thats anoteher sign that EMD is getting big here.

I always try to bring in new people to the scene by making them a cd of good trance singles or a live set and show them what real music to me is and what the electronica scene has to offer. This is one of the best ways to make the scene grow by you brinig in others...if you keep on saying "i dont want others to like EMD and for EDM to grow" then you seriously have some negative views there....the whole point is to help the scene grow and not keep it restricted to the udnerground or just to your gorup of friends.

If amit didnt tell you about TA would you be in this little community we call TrancEaddict? no! Amit has brought on soo many DCTAs on to tranceaddict...there is a need for more people like him, with his views. Look at him now....he digs prog, but he doesnt say "ohh prog is only for me" no he doesnt, but what does he do? he shares his songs with other and try to educate them and show them what prog has to offer so others can expiernce what he expirences. Just like that you have to show non EDM listners what EMD has to offer.
when you got into trance/EDM did other help you at all with finding tracks and helping your knowledge about the music grow? i am pretty sure there has been someone like that for everyone here on TA and thats what we all should do tooo

Look over in Europe....is trance/EDM very popular? yes its on MTV, on the TOP 10 charts, its all over the TV, radio and even widley used in commericals. And it will be the same here in the states in a matter of years. More and more big festivals will come up in the stats, look at ULTRA, they expanding to nyc , the AREA tour has done very well, creamfiles was supposed to happen but it didnt but if they try in say 2 years it will fly.....and there will be more and more festival type events in the US...you cant stop it, but jsut stop with the negative attitude by saying things like "ohh i am cool becuase i listen to trance" or "trance is only for me"

Best buy is doing something good for the scene and we need more companies like them here...doing something postive for the scene

Also with EMD gettign more pouplar...more arits/producers and djs in the sence will get paid more for their work, isnt that what we all want? or woudl you just like to sit back and see all these pop stars selll 5 million alubms and make millions and millions while a dj doesnt even make that much?wouldnt you like to walk into borders or virgin and see you fav djs album and not worry about getting it speical orderd or getting it form somewhere in europe?
woudlnt you want this situation to improve so that when you hit it big that you will get paid much more than what djs now make?





lol!!! go write a book


Posted by Taub on Nov-23-2002 18:34:

quote:
Originally posted by amit
lol!!! go write a book


want to co-write it with me? i cant fill up many pages


Posted by beema on Nov-23-2002 19:21:

I just feel like this is dumbing-down DJing and commercializing it in the US. And I Don't want that happening.
But guitars are popular as ever, and you don't see Best Buy selling those! Turntables & Mixers should be treated the same way as musical instruments.
I've got mixed feelings on this, but mainly, it pisses me off.


Posted by Taub on Nov-23-2002 19:32:

quote:
Originally posted by beema
I just feel like this is dumbing-down DJing and commercializing it in the US. And I Don't want that happening.
But guitars are popular as ever, and you don't see Best Buy selling those! Turntables & Mixers should be treated the same way as musical instruments.
I've got mixed feelings on this, but mainly, it pisses me off.




they were never intended to be used as musical instruments....they hav always been part of the home electronics, it was used to play records and it still does that. YOu cant create music with it so its not an instrument is it


Posted by arturob on Nov-23-2002 19:50:

FFS!


Posted by Greedy on Nov-24-2002 03:24:

Dude, you must really suck at spinning if you feel threatened by random kids being able to buy technics at Best Buy. With the increased availability of turntables, it could only make DJs better because of more competition. You know what that means . . . .SICKER DJS IN THE FUTURE!! WOOHOOOOO!!!


Posted by assassin8 on Nov-24-2002 06:38:

I totally agree with Taub that EDM is growing and I hope it does grow. My only argument against that is that I don't want it to become too comercial. I would like to see more of it on TV, but not to the extent that pop and hip-hop is. Because then it will not be up to the quality level it is at now. But otherwise I wish it gets bigger in the US, but still have a little of the underground in it, whatever that means


Posted by amit on Nov-24-2002 07:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Taub

If amit didnt tell you about TA would you be in this little community we call TrancEaddict? no! Amit has brought on soo many DCTAs on to tranceaddict...there is a need for more people like him, with his views. Look at him now....he digs prog, but he doesnt say "ohh prog is only for me" no he doesnt, but what does he do? he shares his songs with other and try to educate them and show them what prog has to offer so others can expiernce what he expirences. Just like that you have to show non EDM listners what EMD has to offer.


i get a pat on the back . thanks matt


Posted by jdat on Nov-24-2002 07:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Busy Child
Dude, you must really suck at spinning if you feel threatened by random kids being able to buy technics at Best Buy. With the increased availability of turntables, it could only make DJs better because of more competition. You know what that means . . . .SICKER DJS IN THE FUTURE!! WOOHOOOOO!!!



wtf

the average dj sucks and that'll always be the case.

I am not picky about listening to djs but when we are talking skills let me assure you that the good ones are RARE ....


the average kiddie on decks dun mean anything


and for your info limin li is a good dj.


Posted by Srezic on Nov-24-2002 08:33:

But bein a good DJ doesn't just mean you spin good. Gotta produce too at least a little, and do that good as well =P.


Posted by arturob on Nov-24-2002 08:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Srezic
But bein a good DJ doesn't just mean you spin good. Gotta produce too at least a little, and do that good as well =P.


*slap Srezic with LogicAudio 5.3


Posted by Srezic on Nov-24-2002 08:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Starfox
*slap Srezic with LogicAudio 5.3


WTF!!!!


Posted by Kimmi on Nov-24-2002 08:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Starfox
*slap Srezic with LogicAudio 5.3



you loser


go buy a two track tascam tape recorder a guitar a drumbox and start producing old school

I hear that casio keyboards are also pretty cool


Posted by arturob on Nov-24-2002 08:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Srezic
WTF!!!!


*tri[s Srezic with a Roland JP8080


Posted by Kimmi on Nov-24-2002 10:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Starfox
*tri[s Srezic with a Roland JP8080


biatch


you think youz be oldsholez




/me slaps Starf0x with an imaginary TB 303


*jdat's post to lazy to log outta kimmi's account*


Posted by arturob on Nov-24-2002 10:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Kimmi
biatch


you think youz be oldsholez




/me slaps Starf0x with an imaginary TB 303


*jdat's post to lazy to log outta kimmi's account*




hrhrhrh *slaps jdat with kimmi`s dog*


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