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Sony Minidiscs for recording...
hey guys,
i posted this in the aussie forums because i think its more relevant here considering the type of models we get here and shit... but basically i need a minidisc recorder so i can record my mixes straight from the mixer... wherever i am... i have hooked my mixer up to the computer and it works shonky at best... (sometimes it does sometimes it doesnt... :/) anyway a minidisc would be cool... portable and i could record shit anywhere... also i could take it to events maybe and record cool sets 
? but as i know FUCK ALL about minidiscs i thought id ask you guys... if any of you may have one... what there like? would they be ideal to suit my purposes? the mzn1 looks awsome but thats like the best one you can get and way expensive... what do you guys reckon? be cool to play all internet audio on it too. Also what do you know about recording live like say at a event and if i had it in my pocket or something... has anyone does this? understandbly the quality wouldnt be that great im sure but does anyone know exactly how bad (or good!?) it would sound...!?
and if anyone can "aquire" one to sell at a cheap price gimme a pm 
I used to use a Sony Minidisc for portable music .. they are pretty decent machines, Sony so u know they are going to be reasonable quality. If you're only going to use it for recording mixes, I'd recommend getting one of the cheaper ones, the expensive ones have a lot of useless features.
Also don't forget that Minidiscs themselves aren't cheap or easy to find...
Best link I can give is www.minidisc.org (I think that's it). There's a big forum dedicated to minidiscs there, they should be able to help u in more depth 
Depends on what you're after in a minidisc.
If you want it for recording, but you need to record off a pc, you'll need a "NET-MD", and they range in price, but if you just need one that does the job, without all the little added extras, it wouldnt be too expensive.
Data space is limited to the disks, which are usually about 80min of cd quality sound - you want more, give up quality, or buy something else.
You can buy little microphones that plug into the md and record your concerts, but im not sure what the quality would be like in your pocket, may want the mic. hanging outside or something.
Failing all that, if you want portability, and the top of the range in that, then go for panasonic e-wear. Expensive, but sweet as
hope that helps you slightly...
I've tried recording my mixes onto minidisc but I have an old MD player that's intetgrated into my stereo and I always have problems with it.
I've got the most basic one with long play.
mzr 500 I think? bought it november last year if that helps.
you can record from any source to it, so long as it's 3.5mm to 3.5mm or rca to 3.5mm (you have to buy that cord seperate).
you do not need a netmd, that just copies the files over, whereas with the old ones you merely record it from your ouput IE. 3 hrs of music takes 3 hrs to record etc.
I enjoyed mine, but if I save up I'm gonna buy webmeister's toy! ho damn!
WM, can you post the link for Jah pls??
Oh yeah I've recorded mixes to md no problem, just put the output into the md
Although I think using a microphone to bootleg live sets would en up being shhiittttyyy quality, you wouldn't be able to catch 1/2 the sounds....
Good luck, Jah.
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| Originally posted by Hybrid Junkie you do not need a netmd, that just copies the files over, whereas with the old ones you merely record it from your ouput IE. 3 hrs of music takes 3 hrs to record etc. |
Yes and no AussieTrance .. if you have a sound card or DVD player with optical out, you can record digitally to your minidisc with zero loss of quality. However optical out ports are pretty rare, though I vaguely remember seeing a USB optical out plug..
link to my toy
You probably want a unit with Net-MD. People complain about its limitations (eg. cant transfer MD to PC, can't transfer from PC to MD in SP etc...), but really it does what I want it to, I can transfer mp3's to my MD unit at 132 Khz (if thats the unit of measurement?).
Anyway there's a whole bunch of NetMD capable recorders out there. Other stuff you may be interested in is LP2 and LP4 playing and recording capability. What the anti-shock mechanism/memory buffer is. Size could be an issue...
Best place to ask about this stuff is at the t-station(link below)forums, the people there know their shit. Other than that, check out minidisc.org and t-station for specs ofproducts. When you're researching prices start with minidisco, cos they're pretty much guaranteed to have what you want, and go from there.
You'll also probably want a decent pair of headphones cos for some reason MD units never come with decent ones.
Good luck on your search .
MD resources
http://www.minidiscussion.com/
http://www.t-station.net (check out their forums!!)
E-STORES:
Best range: www.minidisco.com
Best in Aus: www.minidisc.com.au
Overall awesome store: http://www.bluetin.com/index.htm
http://i-shopping4u.com/portable_audio.html
http://www.mdpassion.com/
http://www.minidiscaccess.com/
http://minidisc.dezines.com/francistung/index.htm
http://www.hyperjack.net/
http://www.my-minidisc.de/index.php?language=en
http://store.yahoo.com/planetminidisc/index.html
http://www.japan-direct.com/
PS - I've got an MZ-N1 and I have no real complaints with it. Also the MZ-N10 is already out in Japan, so this may lead to the price of the MZ-N1 dropping significantly in a few months... I'd wait till after Christmas if I was you.
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wow thanks for all the replys guys!
well primarily its just for recording my sets from my mixer at a decent quality listening to audio and shit will come 2nd so i guess i dont NEED the netmd... would be nice tho
thanks for the info guys!
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| PS - I've got an MZ-N1 and I have no real complaints with it. Also the MZ-N10 is already out in Japan, so this may lead to the price of the MZ-N1 dropping significantly in a few months... I'd wait till after Christmas if I was you. |
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Oh my gosh I placed the exact question on another forum. I am going to buy one this thursday for recording when I play out and also recording at home. Net MD isn't really usefull don't bother. It's good to put mp3's onto the minidisk but you can't take a minidisk recording and upload it to your computer. So for me it isn't useful.
Also I heard rumours that if you record in long play you loose quality. Can anyone confirm this??
Yes, recording and 2xLP and 4xLP loses quality. 2xLP isn't too bad and gives you exactly 2 1/2 hours of music on a 74 minute disc. The 4xLP is pretty poor quality though - it will give you 5 hours, but personally I'd only use it for recording lectures and stuff, you can't really listen to music at such low quality for long :/
hey so wait a minute once you have the data on the minidisc is that easily tranferable back onto the computer cause thats what i would need it for!? (like in soundfoge or something?)
AFAIK, that is not possible with MD's of any type (could be wrong though).. For something like that, e-wear, memory stick, or IPOD...
Yeah what he said
Unless you could be bothered getting a line-out cable, plugging it into the minidisc and into the line-in on your computer, then recording it using TotalRecorder or something similar..
Which seems to make the MD a redundant step....
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| hey so wait a minute once you have the data on the minidisc is that easily tranferable back onto the computer cause thats what i would need it for!? (like in soundfoge or something?) |
ah right yeah i was implying using like the line out and realtime...
but whats the diff between analog recording and digital is there much loss in quality?
Yes there is a difference in quality between analogue and digital. Think of it like a video tape, if you make a copy of a videotape, the copy is a bit blurry and has crappy sound. If you make a copy of the copy, the picture and sound get worse. It's the same thing with that - the more you move it, the worse it gets.
But with digital, you will get exactly the same thing every time - it's an exact replica.
Also line-out cables will give you line noise and stuff like that - I don't know what your ears are like but you may not notice it....
I have a sony MZR700PC, I record mp3s straight onto minidiscs and its great. One thing I really like about it is the fact that you can record over the discs, unlike CD's and they can also fit a hell of a lot more than CD's
if you want decent quality get one with an optical line not analogue
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| Originally posted by Romp I have a sony MZR700PC, I record mp3s straight onto minidiscs and its great. One thing I really like about it is the fact that you can record over the discs, unlike CD's and they can also fit a hell of a lot more than CD's if you want decent quality get one with an optical line not analogue |
yea thats only for recording onto MD not other way around was just giving my opinion that MD's rock and thats a good one to go for 
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| Originally posted by webmeister Unless you could be bothered getting a line-out cable, plugging it into the minidisc and into the line-in on your computer, then recording it using TotalRecorder or something similar.. Which seems to make the MD a redundant step.... |
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