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Poor MP3 Quality
Hi everyone,
I have been meaning to ask... does anyone have problems with some recently ripped MP3s in the last six months in terms of sound quality?
Most recent examples that come to mind include:
Nu Nrg - Dreamland (Rank 1 Remix)
Gouryella - Ligaya (New Remixes incl. Ferry Corsten Remix)
Benicio - Consequence (All A1, B1, B2 mixes)
Sun Decade - I'm Alone (Mirko de Govia Vocal Mix) (NOT Starfox's rip!)
I'm not complaining about them; I'm just saying that they're low in quality and I want to know... what determines bad quality?
Because they are all ripped at 192 kbps and by ripping groups and people who I presume have good equipment.
So how does that "muffled" sound come about? It sounds as though the sound was played through a very very poor and dusty set of speakers or something..
btw I have a Soundblaster Audigy soundcard and also excellent speakers 
so it's not my equipment..
Regards
p.s. I don't think the snap crackle pop stuff constitutes as 'bad quality'... I'd rather have that (like in the promo mix of ligaya) than all the dirty and unclean sounds of the tracks I listed above.
Your ears are fucked. 
buy the records and rip them yourself
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| Originally posted by jploveparade buy the records and rip them yourself |
I don't think corsten_addict 's complaining.The lad just wonders why and how come they're low quality.
On the other hand you people are right.We can't judge something we get 4 free by people who actually put some time and effort! Peace 
yeah
I'm not complaining - if you guys are wondering, I'm trying to figure out because I'm writing a column for a website.
There have been lots of questions as to what equipment is needed for ripping MP3s, and if a track has too many layers, it might be required to be encoded at a higher bitrate to sound comparable to its totally digital counterpart on CD or on vinyl.
And back to the issue of complaining... I for one wouldn't complain. I'm grateful for everything..
I wish people would just read what I said first.
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| Originally posted by a-aplz Your ears are fucked. |
Hiver & Hammer - 5 Million Miles --> shity quality!
And I have no Turntables so I download the songs and buy the Maxi-Cd if I like what I hear!!
Here's what I could come up with so far, some articles on ripping cds
http://www.cdfreaks.com/document.php3
http://www.ping.be/satcp/eac00.htm#-
It doesn't really explain why bad quality rips occur but the show you in detail how to achieve the highet quality rips with the associated equipment and software. My conclusion on bad rips is that they are using some dodgy encoder instead of LAME.
Cheers
Re: yeah
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| Originally posted by corsten_addict I'm not complaining - if you guys are wondering, I'm trying to figure out because I'm writing a column for a website. There have been lots of questions as to what equipment is needed for ripping MP3s, and if a track has too many layers, it might be required to be encoded at a higher bitrate to sound comparable to its totally digital counterpart on CD or on vinyl. And back to the issue of complaining... I for one wouldn't complain. I'm grateful for everything.. I wish people would just read what I said first. |
yeah, those new ligaya rips are really soft! i rip from time to time and have noticed sometimes its just a bad press and you can't really do much about that. but also to preserve the quality you need to keep the peak/trim as low as possible meanwhile recording to minimize distortion and clipping. . so thats why some of these might come out with the volume kinda low. good cartridges and encoder also help. personally you ought to look at the levels in a good editing program like sound forge or cool edit and make sure they're as high as possible with abolutely no clipping. also keep the bass and mids EQ's at 12 o'clock and the treble at 1. filter out the frequencies with the software to bring out any low bass or mids when you're done recording.
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| Originally posted by Trancealot yea d00d. Its like getting free candy and saying it taste bad. |
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| yep, jploveparade is known for making smart arse comments |
Actually this is a very valid point
I hate how there is no constant standard with rips
my songs vary in sound loudness and quality
and are all 192bit
Well, for or those who are complaining about how mp3s are encoded at different volume levels, try using the Audiostocker plugin for Winamp.
This plugin is absolutely essential and it works so well for me that al my mp3s now play at the same volume level.
PM me if you want this plugin.
the guy who said it was related to the lame encoder
YOU ARE SPOT ON
If you wan't a good rip, you need to use a program that uses the latest LAME encoder. (3.92, or the 3.93 alpha), the LAME is based on the BLADE ancoder, so that isn't bad either. A lot of rippers use the Xing encoder, which is fast, but produces shit sound.
if you wan't a good program to rip with (this one also tells you what encoder/codec was used to rip any mp3) try this: DBPoweramp
EAC: exactaudiocopy.de is also fantastic
You can also try RazorLame, One of the best mp3 encoders around, I use it to encode my recordings of the global dj broadcast.
Yeah I've noticed a few bad quality rips as well:
DJ Fire - Jetlag
Jam X & De Leon - Louder Softer (hennes & cold remix) <---- goes shitty in the breakdown
Veit - Sky (magik muzik remix)
Accadia - Blind Vision (accadia club mix)
Re: Re: yeah
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| Originally posted by TrancerII yep, jploveparade is known for making smart arse comments |
Yeah i have noticed some rather shitty quality myself and i feel i have the right to bitch all i want A because i have the fucking vinyls but i dont happen to have a portable vinyl player (that would be a damn funny site though lolz) to listen to when im out walking or messing around.
and B becuase i used to scan for pubstros and dumpstros for ripping groups so i was part of em hence i can rail on em lolz.
But the thing that bugs me more than bad quality is lack of mp3s in general i find so many tracks which i want to hear fully and can never find the Mp3 hell i own some vinyls that i cant find the MP3s for.
And cd's/mp3s are a lil more convinient than vinyls if your just listening to em cuz you dont have to get up n change the track every 7 - 10 minutes lolz
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| Originally posted by DJDigDug A because i have the fucking vinyls but i dont happen to have a portable vinyl player (that would be a damn funny site though lolz) to listen to when im out walking or messing around. |
why so much people are against mp3?
mp3 is fantastic! with him, I discovered the best music style ever : TRANCE. I'm sure it's the cas to all of you guys! mp3 is great to discover new artists and after, if u like the track, you can buy it!
where is the problem? MP3 is not illegal!
TranceRulezz
I often find it frustrating when I have to download two or three versions of a track in order to find a decent rip. While I appreciate the efforts of individuals and ripping groups, it would be good if dodgy quality rips could be banished as a thing of the past.
Here's hoping that the rip of Junkie XL - Breezer, my most hotly anticipated track of the year, will be decent 
TranceRulezz, no one is against "mp3", we just don't like bad rip's 
, and crap encoders like Xing 
there are other good formats out there, eg: Mp3PRO, MPC, and Ogg Vorbis (which could overtake mp3 if it keeps improving at the rate it is)
i try to download choons with the that have a: snd, tronik, tgx, pow, mim, bmi, idc, mtc, nbd, 1real, ute and such symbols before the .mp3 ending
for some reason i find those rips to be of stellar quality!
thanx guys
>JM<
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