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Posted by oDrori on Nov-25-2002 22:12:

Army Service :( :( :(

Was just wondering, how long is the army service at each country?

Over here it's 3 years... uh... Am so NOT looking forward to it... Such a waste of the real best years of your life

Posted by Emil on Nov-25-2002 22:24:

We have no required military service.

Although, if I was living where I was born, which is Tehran-Iran, I would have been done with military service already. It's a good thing we moved to the states when I was 1.

When does your military service start?

Emil

Posted by musicaddict on Nov-25-2002 22:30:

yup, here in the states we dont have military required services but you'd have to sign up with the selective service once you hit 18 so if they do needed more men for a war or whatever they might call you up for duty..

Posted by piggy on Nov-25-2002 22:37:

No military service required in Canada either

Posted by malek on Nov-25-2002 22:43:

None in Canada (what army?) and I think 18 months to 2 years in Syria. If I get back to Syria now, they'll throw me in the army right away... i'm considered a deserter cause i didn't do my service. (one of the reason why I never went back to Syria)

Posted by Spyder on Nov-25-2002 23:24:

i know in poland it was 2 years.. dont know if they still make the men go.. but i think they doo..

Posted by Az on Nov-25-2002 23:28:

sounds like fun
glasd I live in the UK

Posted by SugarShack on Nov-26-2002 00:03:

Im so very happy i live in the uk

Posted by Tranex02 on Nov-26-2002 00:30:

quote:
Originally posted by ahlamalek
None in Canada (what army?) and I think 18 months to 2 years in Syria. If I get back to Syria now, they'll throw me in the army right away... i'm considered a deserter cause i didn't do my service. (one of the reason why I never went back to Syria)

sorry to hear that malek.... It's to bad you can't visit syria now, it's really changed....oh well, your better off in canada...I'm not sure what's the duration of the army service, but I DEFINATLY do not plan on going....it's not fun! I'm currently 18, so i'm supposed to be doing the service, but i got an extension of time, due to the fact that i'm currently studying... It's a very complicated process, but i'll be delaying it until i finish my university... then i'll have to pay $15,000 so that i won't have to join the army

oDrori....do you still have to join if your the only child?
And...i heard that if your in a religous school, you don't have to join the service!????

Posted by Haak on Nov-26-2002 01:14:

1 year here.
Damn, 3 years is a long time

Posted by corsten_addict on Nov-26-2002 01:21:

Hmmm

What does the military service you bunch are doing consist of? I've always had many misconceptions and I always think it's similar to boot camp (lol@my limited views).

Posted by Lira on Nov-26-2002 01:28:

^^^^ I don't know either. All I know is that after studying for 7 years in a school managed by the army, I had enough

quote:
Originally posted by Haak
1 year here.

Same here.... however, the competition to serve the army is so huge that you're allowed to choose whether you want it or not

Posted by Halcyon21 on Nov-26-2002 02:57:

military??

hehe none for me

Posted by DJ_Lord on Nov-26-2002 03:03:

hmm, we dont have an army!
but right now im living in NY, which as you all know, is part of usa and in this country, military is not mandatory so either way i dont need to go there!

Posted by jdat on Nov-26-2002 05:45:

uh

I'm dual citizen

wonder what will happen if two countries decide having military service.

france used to have it but they quit that like 5 years ago

Posted by malek on Nov-26-2002 06:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Tranex02
sorry to hear that malek.... It's to bad you can't visit syria now, it's really changed....oh well, your better off in canada...I'm not sure what's the duration of the army service, but I DEFINATLY do not plan on going....it's not fun! I'm currently 18, so i'm supposed to be doing the service, but i got an extension of time, due to the fact that i'm currently studying... It's a very complicated process, but i'll be delaying it until i finish my university... then i'll have to pay $15,000 so that i won't have to join the army

oDrori....do you still have to join if your the only child?
And...i heard that if your in a religous school, you don't have to join the service!????

I wanted to have an extension because i'm in university, so i get all the paperwork done and everything... then finally its refused why? because those idiots in syria called my university and asked some personal info about me (to confirm the info they got from me), my university refused to hand info over the phone to an unknown person. All the effort to get every paper approved and verified from the university and stamped with the uni seal for nothing... Fucking idiots they think they're in dictatorship-Syria and can ask and get whatever they want... morons

and I'm not bribing my way thru with that 15K so I can set foot in Syria... they can go fuck themselves... their loss.

Posted by Tenshi on Nov-26-2002 12:36:

in austria we can chose between 8 months army or 12 months civil service!

Posted by oDrori on Nov-26-2002 14:30:

In answers to 3 of the quesitons:

A) We start @ 18, depending on where you are going to serve, you might even be called to begin training on August of you end of 12th grade summer vacation

B) Service over here could vary between engineering & research, "Kravi" IE fighting which means securing and also participating in anti-terrorist actions, and also intelligence...

C) As much as I know, if you're an only child you need both parents' permission to join the army...

The thing that prevents me from deserting, isn't the whole loss-of-citizen-rights thing... It's the fact that all of my friends are gonna go, nearly all of Israeli citizens go, hell, even Israeli Arabs, Druzis go there! And suddenly the all important me will come and say "No thank you, I'm too lazy to risk my life too"?

The only Isreali citizens not servinga are the orhtodox Jews... They are excused off army since they study religion instead, apparently helping us in spirit in battle instead of physically. You will find many of us who resent that, I personally can't wait for the day religion will get seperated from state over here.

Posted by saltwater on Nov-26-2002 15:16:

no compulsory military service in the UK!

and i don't think there's any compulsory military service in Sri Lanka either! (where my folks r from)

either way, im still considering joining the reserves during/after university....better start burning off that fat!

Posted by TranceGiant on Nov-26-2002 16:02:

quote:
Originally posted by ahlamalek
those idiots in syria called my university and asked some personal info about me (to confirm the info they got from me), my university refused to hand info over the phone to an unknown person. All the effort to get every paper approved and verified from the university and stamped with the uni seal for nothing... Fucking idiots they think they're in dictatorship-Syria and can ask and get whatever they want... morons

I cant help but find that hilarious
I just imagine Assad j. and a bunch of his bodyguards angrily yelling on the phone. LOL seriously..dont they have anything better to do than calling in CANADA because of one single potential soldier?

Posted by Tranex02 on Nov-26-2002 23:44:

quote:
Originally posted by oDrori I personally can't wait for the day religion will get seperated from state over here.

tell me about it... i'm waiting for the day it will be seperate in all other countries! I'm soo sick of this, of all countries who do everything according to religous beliefs.... I can't stand anything religous any more..... sorry to say that, but all the problems it's causing is unbearable!
???

Posted by Az on Nov-26-2002 23:48:

god has no place in politics, just like fact has no place in organised religion
slightly modified, but so true

Posted by Kimmi on Nov-27-2002 05:16:

No one should be forced to give up years of their life to joina military. I mean, if war breaks out, then you may have been forced to give your life away. How right is that?

Posted by malek on Nov-27-2002 06:50:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceGiant
I cant help but find that hilarious
I just imagine Assad j. and a bunch of his bodyguards angrily yelling on the phone. LOL seriously..dont they have anything better to do than calling in CANADA because of one single potential soldier?

when you think about it, its funny as hell but seriously it pisses me off cause its been almost 17 years since the last time i saw my cusins and uncles over there, some of them will die because of elderness and I won't see them its simply stupid!

Posted by jdat on Nov-27-2002 10:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Kimmi
No one should be forced to give up years of their life to joina military. I mean, if war breaks out, then you may have been forced to give your life away. How right is that?

life's unfair

what can you do

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