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Posted by Roeisha on Nov-27-2002 22:12:

"prog is a dirty word"

Hello,
I am just curious, I heard Tiesto said these words, I only wonder when and why? I don't know too much about the trance scene, so forgive me asking this question, don't get angry or something... From what I read, many people get upset about this, and I don't know why, and to my knowledge no one writes about it (I made a search), so I am just curious ok.


Posted by dj willie whop on Nov-27-2002 22:19:

first off i have clue what the hell you are talkin about.....but speakin of 'prog is a dirty word' you should defientley check out this track:
Dirty - Dirty

that track was a prog monster last year, brings back old members


Posted by Technaut on Nov-27-2002 22:25:

he said pron not prog


Posted by zarathustra on Nov-27-2002 22:41:

I'm only speculating but,

maybe it has something to do with the adjective "progressive" denoting superiority. If there is such a thing as "progressive" trance then, doesn't that mean that non-"progressive" trance is backward or not as good?


I for one find that the "progressive" term refers more to the structure of the track.


Posted by Floorfiller on Nov-27-2002 22:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Technaut
he said pron not prog



technaut likes to be technaughty with prog.


Posted by uberclkgtr on Nov-27-2002 22:59:

quote:
Originally posted by zarathustra
I'm only speculating but,

maybe it has something to do with the adjective "progressive" denoting superiority. If there is such a thing as "progressive" trance then, doesn't that mean that non-"progressive" trance is backward or not as good?


Not that at all. Progressive is a genre, quite apart from Trance. But it, like trance, has been stuck in a rut for the past 18 months or so. Respected producers and labels have been putting out boring, inane tracks, thinking nobody will notice. These producers and labels are being lazy and should know better. Meanwhile, young, relatively unknown producers have been putting out a ton of bomb-ass tracks.

The thing that makes progressive different than other genres of dance music is that it's supposed to push the envelope in terms of sounds and structure. When Progressive stops being "progressive", then Houston, we have a problem.

But there's been plenty of great tracks to chose from over the past 18 months. DJs like Max Graham, Danny Howells and Timo Maas haven't sat on their thumbs - they've been pushing the evelope production-wise and digging up new talent to work into their sets. Props.

So prog being a dirty word is simply the frustration that many prog DJs have. They're tired of the formulaic crap being put out and promoted by the major dance labels as if it was good music. It's the same problem as you have in trance - formula over substance.


Posted by escee on Nov-28-2002 01:19:

It wouldnt suprise me if he did it to get some publicity.

Look at his latest global Dj set, that is very progressive for a tiesto set at least.


Posted by jdat on Nov-28-2002 01:25:

tiesto is a dirty flower


Posted by breakaholic on Nov-28-2002 01:33:

prog owns you


Posted by Bedrock on Nov-28-2002 01:36:

once a cheeze monger, always a cheeze monger


Posted by netw3rkd on Nov-28-2002 01:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Bedrock
once a cheeze monger, always a cheeze monger



Werd


Posted by ExcelonGT on Nov-28-2002 03:26:

quote:
Originally posted by jdat
tiesto is a dirty flower



LOL!!! HAHAHHA


Posted by Joca on Nov-28-2002 03:27:

Tiesto did an interview for a Candaian dance musci station called BPMTV and in that interview he said "Prog is a dirty word, sssh". To me it came off as being sarcastic because he and the lady that interviewed him were joking about it. It's on the hub


Posted by sifntj0r on Nov-28-2002 08:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Carona
Tiesto did an interview for a Candaian dance musci station called BPMTV and in that interview he said "Prog is a dirty word, sssh". To me it came off as being sarcastic because he and the lady that interviewed him were joking about it. It's on the hub


and yet the above dozen or so tards have already taken it out of context.


Posted by Joca on Nov-28-2002 18:03:

quote:
Originally posted by sifntj0r
and yet the above dozen or so tards have already taken it out of context.


that's about right for this place though



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