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Posted by torontotrance on Dec-01-2002 00:13:

PROG vs. NON PROG

Ok....I've kinda had it with elitest prog heads. I mean here is my point of view, if you like prog great and if you don't then great. Why keep bashing ppl over their choices? if you want to see a deejay then go see him or her and forget the rest. Also I feel that certain ppl miss out on other amazing music. I listen to breaks (being a hybrid addict), i listen to trance, tech house, techno and some prog. So my question is?.....why hate. Most progheads are ex tranceheads and then you pretend you never listened to that stuff. I mean like wake the hell up....as I shall point out......TO EACH HIS or HER OWN!

Posted by dEsidEL on Dec-01-2002 00:17:

yea.. these debates lead nowhere but cause fury, flame and hate on the boards. personally i think fighting between the 2 is futile cuz it never ends with either side coming to any sort of consensus..

worst part about it is that there will be many more of these wars to come.. it already happened with Gielen vs. John '00' Flemming .. and now Talla2XLC vs. Digweed ..

this is gonna be a looong next year .. (2003)

my prediction.. Dumonde comes to Viva next year the same night as Dave Seaman plays in TO again at Guvernment .. and a huge fight erupts on the boards on TA over who should go where ..

Posted by jon jon on Dec-01-2002 00:18:

If you're talking about me, I've had to put up with power trance newbie bullshit for the last 3 months. My argument was 'music is a matter of opinion' and keep it at that. I can find the posts if you really want me to. This problem has been a recurring one for quite some time now, my hijacking of the talla thread was just jokes.

I bet you this thread turns into...
- a tiesto tracklist question thread
- a why digweed is boring and not trance argument
- a conversation about nat's breasts
- a discussion about us/canadian politics

It's just the way shit is, I've started to enjoy it because I'm fighting back.

Posted by torontotrance on Dec-01-2002 00:20:

quote:
If you're talking about me, I've had to put up with power trance newbie bullshit for the last 3 months. My argument was 'music is a matter of opinion' and keep it at that.

actually no....i was going on about prog elite ppl......no names no nothing..i was talking IN GENERAL....actually.

Posted by jon jon on Dec-01-2002 00:21:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL
my prediction.. Dumonde comes to Viva next year the same night as Dave Seaman plays in TO again at Guvernment .. and a huge fight erupts on the boards on TA over who should go where ..

5 zillion dollars says you just opened the biggest can of worms. I can see it now "holy shitz dude-o, I'm only 13 but do you think I can get into Dumonde? I mean I heard Dave Sleamanz is awesome but I think prog is for loserz, I like Dumonds tracks because they don't put me too sleepzzzz zzzzzz."

Posted by torontotrance on Dec-01-2002 00:23:

see who you want and forget about the others.

Posted by jon jon on Dec-01-2002 00:24:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
see who you want to see and go have a great time and forget what the rest think.

Yea welcome to last year. Try telling that to the high schoolers who fucking showed up in September. All they talk about is how prog is shit and how they don't understand how we could listen to it. And I do ignore them, but then you can't help but see all of your threads eventually get hacked up at one time or another.

Posted by torontotrance on Dec-01-2002 00:26:

as i said..... i enjoy prog (some),breaks, trance, tech house, techno and you don't see me going on about how prog is better or trance is better. Call me last year.....then again I don't care.

Posted by jon jon on Dec-01-2002 00:26:

You know what, since I don't see any resolutions coming about from this argument or the larger argument (death trance vs. anything else, which btw is what the thread should of been called).

I say we wage war! hahah Why even both settling, lets just come to terms with the fact that one is better than the other. We'll take times bashing each other, hi-jacking each others threads, and in the end want to kill each other. I mean it could make for a more interesting tranceaddict.

(btw I'm kidding)

Posted by torontotrance on Dec-01-2002 00:28:

butttt hijacking threads is fun....so is talking about nat's tits....so is going on about how much I cannot stand satoshi tomiie and others.....

Posted by jon jon on Dec-01-2002 00:30:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
as i said..... i enjoy prog (some),breaks, trance, tech house, techno and you don't see me going on about how prog is better or trance is better. Call me last year.....then again I don't care.

This is going way over your head. There isn't one better genre thats why. You just proved my point. I love both, always have. I'm just fedup of the newbies hacking up the normal threads. You keep making reference to liking all these types of music, do I look like I only listen to one type of music. I saw Sasha @ Guv, and PVD @ Roxy the week after. What do you want me to say?

I love Hybrid, I love Gray Area, 16b, Lee Combs, blah blah blah. What does that have to do with the fact that little kids keep blowing their load over a lot of decent threads.

Posted by torontotrance on Dec-01-2002 00:31:

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I'm just fedup of the newbies hacking up the normal threads.

SUCH IS LIFE....

Posted by dEsidEL on Dec-01-2002 00:31:

quote:
Originally posted by halo20
Yea welcome to last year. Try telling that to the high schoolers who fucking showed up in September. All they talk about is how prog is shit and how they don't understand how we could listen to it. And I do ignore them, but then you can't help but see all of your threads eventually get hacked up at one time or another.

i can understand how you're angry at all this which isn't your fault, but remember a lot of us aren't in highschool either and we hold a much more neutral stance at the prog vs. non-prog issue. I myself enjoy prog almost as much as trance and i have nothing against it at all.. if i had a chance to see Digweed i would have. the thing is, if there are people in particular who you disaprove with their comments then just direct your quotes at them. i never said shit about the digweed party, yet in the Talla review thread you quoted stuff that i never even said. that i felt was unwarranted. some of us don't deserve the outlash against some highschoolers who you think have no courtesy for others that enjoy prog. and if these highschool kids are annoying you so much then let them learn it the hard way when they turn 19 to find out that a lotta ppl that age listen to prog. fighting back by posting like them just makes it look bad. why lower yourself to the level of someone you hate?

Posted by jon jon on Dec-01-2002 00:34:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL why lower yourself to the level of someone you hate?

I see your point. I was being retarted. I'm sorry for playing with your numbers, it was an attempt at being funny. And seeing your response clearly validated my attempt. haha Nothing personal man. I'm just starting to enjoy this bashing back and forth.

Posted by Flec on Dec-01-2002 00:37:

So when i graduate highschool, will my opinion about prog and trance be more valid? What a fucking joke!

Posted by jon jon on Dec-01-2002 00:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Flec
So when i graduate highschool, will my opinion about prog and trance be more valid? What a fucking joke!

Flec, you are the crowning example of ignorance on this board. If I were you I'd hide behind my age, because then at least I'd have an excuse. You not only change your opinion based on the consensus of others but you manage to degrade and taint any meaningful thread you post in. Dude, say what you want, about who you want, where you want. You never gave a shit before.

Posted by jon jon on Dec-01-2002 00:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Flec
you shuold be going to viva expecting a rave not a club... thats what it is basicly ( although most ravers would disagree) , the asians consider it a rave....

Maybe when you graduate from high school you'll learn to quit being a racist or an anti-semite.

Posted by dEsidEL on Dec-01-2002 00:59:

quote:
Originally posted by halo20
I see your point. I was being retarted. I'm sorry for playing with your numbers, it was an attempt at being funny. And seeing your response clearly validated my attempt. haha Nothing personal man. I'm just starting to enjoy this bashing back and forth.

i know ur just joking around and being sarcastic. i'm not taking any offence about what you said about me. but others who don't see it the same way might not. and what's the point of all the bashing? people are just here trying to have fun and meet others who want a good time at a party. adding to the bashing when others post stupid comments does nothing to help the vibe on this board..

Posted by jon jon on Dec-01-2002 01:05:

hahaah the vibe police

Posted by torontotrance on Dec-01-2002 01:07:

quote:
Maybe when you graduate from high school you'll learn to quit being a racist or an anti-semite.

you must be completely wrong, now this is going too far and getting really stupid. The dude is jewish...so how can he be a anti semite.

Posted by mot10n on Dec-01-2002 01:32:

rofl, you guys are jokes.

Posted by Mandrick_v on Dec-01-2002 02:05:

In some of the posts some guys started bashing all uplifting trance calling it cheeze and so...

Well, uplifting even cheezy uplifting trance is the only thing that keeps my girlfriend listen and party and enjoy trance. I don't mind that at all...

I know u guys are all in serious music and so, well PROG is too complicated for non-tranaddict audience, ppl say it is DRUG MUSIC. I never tried to say anything bad about progresive, please guys don't say anything bad about epic.

it is like i would started saying that JMJ or Deep Forest rocks and the rest is shit. I am cool, I am listenning to such a complicated music.

think about it....

Posted by mecha on Dec-01-2002 02:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Mandrick_v
In some of the posts some guys started bashing all uplifting trance calling it cheeze and so...

Well, uplifting even cheezy uplifting trance is the only thing that keeps my girlfriend listen and party and enjoy trance. I don't mind that at all...

I know u guys are all in serious music and so, well PROG is too complicated for non-tranaddict audience, ppl say it is DRUG MUSIC. I never tried to say anything bad about progresive, please guys don't say anything bad about epic.

it is like i would started saying that JMJ or Deep Forest rocks and the rest is shit. I am cool, I am listenning to such a complicated music.

think about it....

Everyone has their opinions. Theres is some trance that sounds so cheesy and there is some progressive that sounds very boring.

BUT Progressive is the answer.....it owns

Posted by Crazy Serb on Dec-01-2002 02:17:

Posted by dEsidEL on Dec-01-2002 02:23:

quote:
Originally posted by halo20
hahaah the vibe police

man do you take anything i say seriously ? you know what forget it..

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