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Posted by TiestoFanMatt on Dec-06-2002 21:08:

canabis...pot...the lot

Ok next saturday me, my brother and my mate are going to try canabis for the first time. My mate has tried it twice before, me and my brother never. I need a little advice on what to do and what not to do. For example, i am going clubbing after and therefore drinking alcohol...is that wise?
Anyway, iv never even touched drugs but im just really curious about it and i thought hey why not lol. So any help from all u peeps...thanks


Posted by torontotrance on Dec-06-2002 21:10:

I refuse to touch it....i knew someone who screwed up their lives with it.


Posted by j_spot on Dec-06-2002 21:21:

www.erowid.com for actual info

my advice, take it easy, being the first time, it wont take much to get you messed up. And it may make you groggy, especially combined with alcohol..so you might burn out while @ the bar. Which could be a bad thing, unless you enjoy being thrown out face first. To me, weed is not a club drug. I sit around and talk and listen when im stoned. I dont feel like doing much. so ya....have fun, and take it easy.


Posted by biznology on Dec-06-2002 21:30:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
I refuse to touch it....i knew someone who screwed up their lives with it.




what? did they get arrested? because other than that, it wasnt MJs fault - i dont see how anyone can 'screw up their lives' with a drug that is largely non addictive, cant kill you and is safer than alcohol and even caffeine in most circumstances.

as for the first time - i would not suggest drinking heavily, smoking and then going out. for the first time i would say that smoking somewhere chill and just hanging out is prolly the best idea. its likely to hit you hard, and mixed with booze that can get dangerous(puking, passing out) if you plan on doing anything social. i also wouldnt necessarily say that smoking before going out, and then drinking is a great idea. it may work, it may not.

normally if you wanna drink and then smoke, take the boozing easy and save the smoke for the end of the night - this is usually the best way to do it - tho since you arent *just* smoking or whatever, you wont really get a feel for what it does.

so with all that - i would suggest just chilling and smoking so you cant get used to it, cause its likely to freak you out a bit if youre in the wrong situation, or make you act like a completely retard(in the bad way) in a social sit|


Posted by torontotrance on Dec-06-2002 21:33:

weed was the thing that wrecked his life....


Posted by j_spot on Dec-06-2002 21:34:

lil known fact, smoking a J is just as bad, if not worse for your lungs that smoking a cigarette.

all that rez that builds up in your pipe or bong ends up right in your lungs. and since you typically hold a hit from weed longer than you would with a cigarette, it can do more damage. Its not carcinogenic like Cigarette smoke, but will damage your respiratory system none the less (V02 max etc) This usually only happens if you are chronic.


Posted by Ste on Dec-06-2002 21:37:

Re: canabis...pot...the lot

quote:
Originally posted by TiestoFanMatt
Ok next saturday me, my brother and my mate are going to try canabis for the first time. My mate has tried it twice before, me and my brother never. I need a little advice on what to do and what not to do. For example, i am going clubbing after and therefore drinking alcohol...is that wise?
Anyway, iv never even touched drugs but im just really curious about it and i thought hey why not lol. So any help from all u peeps...thanks




its shit and boring!



try sumthing more fun, like E or ket!


Posted by Ste on Dec-06-2002 21:38:

quote:
Originally posted by biznology


what? did they get arrested? because other than that, it wasnt MJs fault - i dont see how anyone can 'screw up their lives' with a drug that is largely non addictive, cant kill you and is safer than alcohol and even caffeine in most circumstances.


i know lots of peopel who smokes j's like sigarettes, and it sure aint doing them any good.

im not here to preach about drug,s you know me im far from anti drug, but too many peopel think weed is just an amusing replacement for tabacco, when it is far more headfucking, even if is less carcinogenic!


Posted by biznology on Dec-06-2002 21:40:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
weed was the thing that wrecked his life....


how?

in what way?

explain - cause i dont think that a bag of weed broke into his house and raped and killed his family or something...its a matter of choice and the individual that uses a drug. just cause someone is unable to exhibit self-control doesnt mean the drug is to blame

for jspot -

youre right. a j has prolly 4x as much tar and whatnot as a normal cig...but then again cig smokers smoke packs a day or more often, so thats a moot point. also the worst potential problem is someone that smokes both cigs and smot. MJ is absorbed in the upper regions of the lung and throat, while cig smoke goes deeper. so cancer associated with MJ smoke is often throat or neck cancer, whereas nic gets you lung, but the combo hurts your throat and neck especially bad.

but then you can always eat MJ, where there is nearly NO dangerous effect and the drug itself becomes 4x more powerful as its broken down in the stomache|


Posted by Slylee on Dec-06-2002 21:42:

Smoking ..umm..something

my advice is dont get addicted to it!! you'll become a burnout and that's a shitty feeling. but since i'm sure you're still going to do it here is some info..

there is sort of a "myth" that goes around about smoking weed for the first time. a lot of people say you dont get high the first time...a lot of people say you do. for me, i didn't really feel "high". i remember giggling a lot uncontrollably and getting hungry and going to bed. i wasn't really aware of the high, but looking back, i obviously was. so that is probably what is meant by that myth...you just aren't aware of it like you are after you've done it a few times. i kind of agree with jspot...it's not really the drug you do before going out. it makes you lose all ambition to do anything...even getting ready is a bitch. but it's different for everyone. personally, i can handle getting high and then get ready to go out and do something. it's fun because i get more daring and creative with my make up and clothes when i'm stoned. i especially like to go to the movies after smoking too, it's great as long as it's not one of those movies you need to follow closely and figure out the plot. i wouldn't mix alcohol with it your first time either...i used to smoke every day so drinking after smoking a joint was nothing for me..it just makes you feel drunk and high lol... i still smoke occasionally but i'm definitely not a pothead any more. after you build a tolerance (that is, assuming you like the experience) you will be able to smoke a joint and have a beer and not be a moron or get sick. and last but not least, only smoke the GOOD SHIT! i hate regs...it gives me a headache and just makes me wanna go to sleep and u wake up with a weed hangover. bleh


Posted by BTG on Dec-06-2002 21:45:

i think this thread

http://tranceaddict.com/forums/show...&threadid=78675

tells you why you shouldnt.


Posted by Slylee on Dec-06-2002 21:47:

quote:
Originally posted by BTG
i think this thread

http://tranceaddict.com/forums/show...&threadid=78675

tells you why you shouldnt.



hahahahahh good point!


Posted by TiestoFanMatt on Dec-06-2002 22:18:

Oh man it dont sound too good. I think i may just go and get wasted instead clubbing...
I cant take E coz i really dont want to try it, plus i hear u need to know reliable ppl to get it from, and yea i live in mansfield haha. Anyway, thanks for the advice.... i think il just try it while just chilling, soon as i have work the day after (sunday) at 10am!
What does ur body feel like with the side-affects? is it like being completely smashed or sommet weaker/stronger?
I always remember seeing a british film about some ppl who grow loads of it in their conservatory. The women tries some and she couldnt stop laughing lol. I kinda inspired me haha.
Anyway thanks
Matt


Posted by Slylee on Dec-06-2002 22:21:

yes you will definitely be laughing...it makes your senses a lot more aware...like when i listen to music i really get into it...i noticed that when i listen to rap (i only like some rap..i would recommend outkast) i find it easier to actually figure out what they are rapping about. you will also get hungry and just very AWARE...


Posted by Spad on Dec-06-2002 22:26:

Don't drink before you smoke, it'll send you west.


Posted by butterfly on Dec-06-2002 22:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Spad
Don't drink before you smoke, it'll send you west.


oh god - that was my worst experience EVER. i had no control over my consciousness.


Posted by blazed it on Dec-06-2002 22:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
yes you will definitely be laughing...it makes your senses a lot more aware...like when i listen to music i really get into it...



yep music sounds alot more complex and layered when you listen to it high.... especially electronic music.

weed + music = excellent


Posted by TiestoFanMatt on Dec-06-2002 22:34:

How about drinking after smoking? There would be about a 2 hour time difference between the two i worked out.
I think i will aquire some quality trance and il be like lol

Thanks

matt


Posted by Slylee on Dec-06-2002 22:36:

quote:
Originally posted by blazed it
yep music sounds alot more complex and layered when you listen to it high.... especially electronic music.

weed + music = excellent


do you go to UCSB?


Posted by biznology on Dec-06-2002 22:40:

quote:
Originally posted by TiestoFanMatt
How about drinking after smoking? There would be about a 2 hour time difference between the two i worked out.
I think i will aquire some quality trance and il be like lol

Thanks

matt


not so much and more zzzz...

people who drink too much and then smoke too much have issues with drinking before and smoking after. i dont like smoking before cause it makes you lazy and quiet for the most part.

like i said, dont drink...just smoke - itll be completely different that being smashed, but no matter what you will feel much better then next day|


Posted by jp on Dec-06-2002 22:44:

amateurs...


Posted by mos man on Dec-06-2002 22:59:

quote:
Originally posted by j_spot
lil known fact, smoking a J is just as bad, if not worse for your lungs that smoking a cigarette.

all that rez that builds up in your pipe or bong ends up right in your lungs. and since you typically hold a hit from weed longer than you would with a cigarette, it can do more damage. Its not carcinogenic like Cigarette smoke, but will damage your respiratory system none the less (V02 max etc) This usually only happens if you are chronic.


it takes 3 seconds for the smoke to release its stuff into your system, so dont bother holding the smoke for longer...

hey tiestofanmatt, just roll a normal spliff between you, dont go to heavy on the tobacco or weed, keep it to about 3-4 sprinkles and you will be sorted

also you dont feel fucked up after smoking weed, when i smoke a j i feel almost exactley the same as i did before after about 3-4 hours.


Posted by tranceDJ on Dec-06-2002 23:19:

Re: Re: canabis...pot...the lot

quote:
Originally posted by Dumonde Trancer
its shit and boring!



try sumthing more fun, like E or ket!


May be compared to E or ket but then again it won't fuck up your brain nearly as much. Weed is definetly the drug (if you even consider it one) of choice for people who want to get high but not completely damage your brain like the harder drugs will. Weed can be really powerful too if you smoke the really good stuff.


Posted by Ste on Dec-06-2002 23:31:

Re: Re: Re: canabis...pot...the lot

quote:
Originally posted by tranceDJ
May be compared to E or ket but then again it won't fuck up your brain nearly as much. Weed is definetly the drug (if you even consider it one) of choice for people who want to get high but not completely damage your brain like the harder drugs will. Weed can be really powerful too if you smoke the really good stuff.




then again u wont get addicted to E....


mayeb you will ket, but ah well, ket is jsut to piss funny!


Posted by biznology on Dec-07-2002 00:14:

Re: Re: Re: Re: canabis...pot...the lot

quote:
Originally posted by Dumonde Trancer
then again u wont get addicted to E....


mayeb you will ket, but ah well, ket is jsut to piss funny!


there is no way that E is less addictive than MJ...and any 'non addictiveness' ive discovered is the godawful feeling you have after a night of being balls out on E. sure the high is better (esp if youre smoking too) but its not worth it, thats why coke and smack are no good (not to say that E is in the same league as the prev 2)|


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