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Posted by JohnSmith on Dec-07-2002 01:46:

Thoughts on the vestax PCV 275

Seems a lot of trance addicts love this mixer, it seems to be the most popular mixer around here. (with possible exception of the DJM500/600, which is 2 to 3 times the price)

I have a vestax 275 and I like it, I just wanted to hear what you guys thought about it. It's a great mixer, and i don't regret buying it, but there are a few things that bug me about it.

First, the Bass EQ has a little too wide of a frequency, it seems when you turn down the bass, you lose the whole song.

Second, I wish there was a knob for controlling how much of each channel you can hear when cueing. I find myself always turning the gain of the incoming song way up to hear it, but then i sometimes get used to it like that, and forget to put it back down, then i bring in the song and it's way too loud. I know DJM600 has this, but i don't think the 500 does.

Third, it seems to me that the right hand side of the master volume is louder, i have to move the master balance over to the left a bit, or it won't be balance on the meters. I think this might just be my mixer in particular though, the guy i bought it from complained about that before he sold it to me, so i guess it's my fault, buyer beware and all.. does anyone elses do this?

There are also things i LOVE about this mixer, that most don't have:

The crossfader is AWESOME, so smooth and perfectly curved, i hardly ever even use the volume faders.

The 2 headphone outputs are cool too, i find i use it all the time, for teaching people how to mix, for outputting to my sampler etc.

The pans on each channel are really fun to use in the mix, moving swapping songs from one side to the other and stuff.

The kills are nice too, pretty much silent if you time it right.


Posted by k-pryde on Dec-07-2002 06:16:

Re: Thoughts on the vestax PCV 275

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith
Second, I wish there was a knob for controlling how much of each channel you can hear when cueing. I find myself always turning the gain of the incoming song way up to hear it, but then i sometimes get used to it like that, and forget to put it back down, then i bring in the song and it's way too loud. I know DJM600 has this, but i don't think the 500 does.


yeah i know what you mean but i guess you gotta get used to it *shrugs* i use the pcv 175 which is pretty much the same as the 275 except i dont have the split cues... but other than that you gotta stick with using the gains and the headphone volume as much as possible for comfortable cueing and beatmatching. its not that bad in the end... it just trains you more to be aware that you've set your levels right when you're about to do the mix =)


Posted by trancearmada on Dec-07-2002 21:14:

you hit it right on the nail there. I absolutely agree with you, and I love my PCV275 too!


Posted by club4life on Dec-07-2002 22:14:

I have the same quibbles: To wide of a frequency band for the bass eq and my right channel is a little louder as well. I've never had a problem with the cue levels though . . .

I love my mixer. For the price, I can't think of one I'd rather have.


Posted by JohnSmith on Dec-08-2002 02:21:

ahah! another TA witha louder right channel, come on, i wanna hear more guys!


Posted by Haunted on Dec-08-2002 06:40:

eh its ok
i want effects :/


Posted by JohnSmith on Dec-09-2002 03:56:

yeah, i want FX too. but imo, if you want FX, get an FX box, like this one:

http://www.pioneerprodj.com/products/efx500/efx500.mv


it has all the FX of the pioneer DJM500, and more i believe.

there are other better sounding FX you can get too.

and since the the PCV275 has an FX loop, you can easily control the send and return volumes on the mixer


Posted by Phu on Dec-09-2002 05:51:

I wouldnt get pioneer fx. Have u guys heard of Lexicon or Eventide.


Posted by Omad0n on Dec-09-2002 06:23:

Talking Just my thoughts

Hey all, I jsut wanted to add my opinions. I love the vestax 275. A great piece of machinery. I too thought havea slightly louder right side, but only on phone 1. Phono 2 is fine. Also on the FX thing. I was thinking of getting the KORG Kaoss pad 2. And by thinking of getting, I mean asking for it for christmas from my parents and some other relatives.


Posted by JohnSmith on Dec-09-2002 07:25:

hmmm.. i';m pretty sure both of mine are a bit louder on the right, i could be wrong though..

as for FX, yeah, i would like a Kaos Pad 2, those are pretty fun.

i have not heard of lexicon or eventide, do you have a link dj phu?


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Dec-09-2002 13:33:

yup. i also love this mixer. The only thing i would fault is the 1/4inch connections. On the 175 they were just standard phono's, so the cables used to hook ur mixer up to ur PC, and also a seperate cable to the Hi-fi were very simple. Now its a pain in the ass all this 1/4 inch shite. I still hav not found the perfect cable i need. I hav to use various adapters to finally solve my problem (which means i am sacrificing quality)

Infact i need the following cable's if anyone knows where i might find them:

two 1/4 inch jacks at one end -------- standard jack at other end

OR

two 1/4 inch jacks at one end -------- 2 standard phono cables at other end

Im not even sure if i've used correct terms. But i hope this has made clear what i am after. If anyone know's a place where i can find these specifics, then let me no


Posted by Martin McG on Dec-09-2002 14:42:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike


two 1/4 inch jacks at one end -------- standard jack at other end

OR

two 1/4 inch jacks at one end -------- 2 standard phono cables at other end

Im not even sure if i've used correct terms. But i hope this has made clear what i am after. If anyone know's a place where i can find these specifics, then let me no


you mean big bits at one end and wee bits at the other end?!


Posted by Vizay on Dec-09-2002 14:47:

I love my 275....it's my new partner in life!!


well actually it has it's flaws.....the output is a bit unbalanced....but on mine it's the left chanel that tend to be a little louder, but it's not really a problem since it got balance knobs on all the chanels and a overall knob for it


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Dec-09-2002 15:19:

quote:
Originally posted by big dave
you mean big bits at one end and wee bits at the other end?!


yup

2 big bits at one end and 2 wee bits at the other

or

2 big bits at one end and 1 wee bit at the other

either will do


Posted by JohnSmith on Dec-09-2002 17:03:

uhm.. mikey, it has TWO main outs.

one is RCA, one is 1/4" (TRS)



the RCAs hook up just like a CD player to any stereo.

the 1/4" (on the top) hook into higher end amps.

i have a 6 foot gold plated cable that is 1/4" on one side, and RCA on the other, it cost me like $6 at a music store.

(btw RCA is the proper term, not phono)

I use that cable to go to my good amp, and the RCAs to go to another smaller amp or to my computer.


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Dec-09-2002 17:12:

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith

the RCAs hook up just like a CD player to any stereo.

the 1/4" (on the top) hook into higher end amps.

i have a 6 foot gold plated cable that is 1/4" on one side, and RCA on the other, it cost me like $6 at a music store.

(btw RCA is the proper term, not phono)

I use that cable to go to my good amp, and the RCAs to go to another smaller amp or to my computer.


i guess i'll just hav to look around for a good music store then. At least i no for sure what i need now, its just gonna be a pain in the ass finding it.


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Dec-09-2002 17:16:

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith





im curious... what is it u hav connected in Line 3??? under the "SUB" heading... ?!?!


Posted by JohnSmith on Dec-09-2002 21:23:

I have 2 things connected there actually.

a sampler, and a CD player.

the CD player is just a regular 5 disc changer, no pitch control or anything, i just use it for putting in stuff sometimes, or mixing out of the last track of a CD, or whatever.

the sampler is plugged into the same place, using a piggy back RCA cable. yes, i know i have 4 more spots i could plug it in, but it only makes sense for it to be in the center, so that's where i have it. besides, i am reserving those other 4 spots for 2 CDJs, and final scratch.

it's not hooked up like that anymore anyway..

here's a pic, you can see the sampler and CD player:


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Dec-09-2002 21:33:

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith
I have 2 things connected there actually.

a sampler, and a CD player.

the CD player is just a regular 5 disc changer, no pitch control or anything, i just use it for putting in stuff sometimes, or mixing out of the last track of a CD, or whatever.

the sampler is plugged into the same place, using a piggy back RCA cable. yes, i know i have 4 more spots i could plug it in, but it only makes sense for it to be in the center, so that's where i have it. besides, i am reserving those other 4 spots for 2 CDJs, and final scratch.

it's not hooked up like that anymore anyway..


aye nice setup. Make sure to take lots of pics when u got ur CDJ's, and its all setup properly


Posted by JohnSmith on Dec-09-2002 22:20:

yep, for damn sure man!

planning on buying another Deck at sometime in the future too, probaably a TTX1.



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