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Posted by P`zazz on Dec-09-2002 22:09:

The world is phucked up

Well, I would just like to have a conversation with you guys here on tranceaddict since we all have at least one thing in commmon and that is the music.

It could be said that 'Every individual will do what is good for him' and I think every logically thinking peson would agree. Then WHY THE PHUCK do people do exactly the opposite. Smoking and taking drugs I think are the best examples, they totally fuck you up, over and inside out but the number of people that take this shit increases by the minute. FFS there are times when I go out with my friends and I'm the only one from the lot that doesn't smoke. Also I see on these boards the number of people that post their expiriences with drugs and I get upset, how fucked up is this world, everyone consuming all this crap that only does harm to their body, mind, social life etc. I'll try to name some harms that smoking and taking drugs cause to your body:

Smoking:
1.Makes you smell bad
2.Makes your teeth yellow
3.Get's you so addicted that when you don't have a cigarette to smoke you go nuts trying to find one (omg I've seen my friends act like psychos when they need a cig and cant find one, scares the shit out of me)
4.You spend a shitload of your money for something so harmfull to you while there are ppl out there that go without foood for many days.
5.Your lungs fill up with tar and your body with all that shit they put in those things, plus the chemicals they spray the tobacco plants before they harvest them. Your brain gets fucked up as well as your breathing, you cough all the time and the number of ppl that die each year from cancer because of smoking are enormous.
6.You piss off ppl around you that don't smoke.

Drugs:
1.Cost a shitload of money which could be used in a million of better ways.
2.As I said fucks up your body, mind, social life...
3.Has side effects such as hallucinations, fear, anxiety, feeling of lonelyness, makes you feel sick, fucked up, physical body pain and many more which I don't know of since I am no expert in this area.
4.Could lead to death if an overdose is taken or if there is some kind of alergy.
5.When addicted the luck of the drug leads to the addict actiong like a psycho, basicaly the body is controlled by the drug and not the person.
6.While drugged the user may get involved in 'violent' actions without realising what he is doing.

Now lets see what are the pros:

Smoking - cool factor, immature kids trying to be 'hip' or 'in' (no offence, thats the way it is)

Drugs - users claim to expirience a feeling of 'euphoria' while under the influence of drugs which in my opinion is relatively nothing compared to the fucked up feeling you get later on

I'd like ppl who take drugs/smoke to take part in this but also ppl that don't, and please don't be immature and start flaming with stupid posts the likes of 'stfu drugs/smoking rules' pls back up your opinion.

Posted by DJ Chrono on Dec-09-2002 22:33:

I agree with u P'zazz, I too see no beneifits from smoking and drugs.

health should be taken seriously. I dont smoke or do drugs, but even yet I am trying to maintain a healthy diet (very little fast food/ deep fried), work out regularly, and take a protein supplement every day. It is definately worth it in the long run.

Posted by tranceDJ on Dec-09-2002 22:47:

Look at the above post, there are plenty of people who don't smoke or do drugs. Yes, what other people do is stupid, but it's their choice so you shouldn't be telling them what they should or shouldn't be doing. I know it may bug you and such but there's really not too much you can do to stop it so you have to learn to deal with it like lots of other people have and stop bitching about it.

People go on about how smokers are killing themselves...they know it's unhealthy! They don't care if you tell them that it's bad for them and that it bugs you. Plus, lots of places are restricting smokers...for example, you can't even smoke in clubs or bars in California so thats helping other people, I don't know what the situation is where you live.

As for drugs, what you say is true but for most people it will take them awhile to realize it...hopefully before they really fuck up their life. Anyway, these are things u really can't change, and therefore have to live with, sorry...

Posted by SpykeChyld on Dec-09-2002 22:56:

Yeah, and you bitching about how other people choose to live their lives will have no effect on the choices they make. You don't smoke, you don't do drugs. Good for you. Your choice. I smoke weed. Good for me. My choice. My best friend smokes cigs. Good for him. His choice. The dude on the corner asking me for cash is a coke head. Good for him. His choice. I don't support other people's bad habbits just as I don't expect others to support mine. However I don't make useless posts about the already well known dangers of cigs.

Posted by musicaddict on Dec-09-2002 22:58:

i agree that "kids" trying to smoke to "fit in" or "to be accepted" is stupid. Now that's fucked up. But hell, its their choice and like trancedj said, it's their choice to make. Nobody can do anything about it. I guess thats mother nature's plan on keeping the population from being over populated. All I GOTTA SAY IS THAT IF YOU SMOKE BECAUSE YOU WANNA LOOK COOL AND YOU WANNA FIT IN THEN YOU ARE SERIOUSLY FUCKED UP.

oh wait btw, take this for example:

We all know that there are Aneline Derivative in the permanent tints to use and color the hair. The aniline Derivative in the tint causes cancer (yes, this is proven by studies) because it is derive from tar but most women dont care. They still color their hair coz hell who doesnt wanna look pretty? They gotta die from something right? Ok maybe that was a bad example to go with smoking but whatever. JUST DONT SMOKE TO LOOK COOL OR TO FIT IN A CERTAIN GROUP.

Posted by Ste on Dec-10-2002 00:04:

p'zazz, maybe if you knew the score you could comment, but:

NO SCORE im afraid.

somking IMO is stupid, most peopel start smoking coz they think tis cool, get addictive, become smokers. i cant see the attraction my self, i think its viel, but ah well.

on the other hand drugs area complete different kettle of fish, youve probaly never, and wont ever, know what its like, so if you dont know the score STFU commenting on what you dont know about. goodnight

Posted by Ste on Dec-10-2002 00:06:

i bet you drink alcohol p'zazz?

Posted by Murcie on Dec-10-2002 00:08:

misleading title ... should be smokers and druggers are phucked up

Posted by goldenarmZ on Dec-10-2002 00:08:

lol.. clueless f00l alert.

educate yourself: http://www.erowid.org/index.shtml

Posted by Az on Dec-10-2002 00:10:

which drugs are you referring to??
are you a complete retard??

answers on a postcard please....

Posted by G K Murray on Dec-10-2002 00:21:

I you want to do it, do it, if you dont, then shut shut the fuck up. Most people think, i'm only young once so have pils and have the nite of their live every time they go out for the rest of their young life, and when they're 30 or 40 they will look back and think "what a fuckin great time i had when i was young, i'm glad i didn't waste it like some boring ****z because i'll never be able to go back there".

If people get enjoyment out of doing whatever then let them do it!

Posted by ProDiGaL on Dec-10-2002 00:55:

dont really care, everyone pays the price for their own actions, so who gives a shit, doesnt affect me, im a fit athlete who wants to have a strong body, thats my choice.
what pisses me off is when people feel sorry for themsleves after about how bad they have it when it was them who made the deicisions and set themsleves on that path, we all pay the price for our choices so when you do get lung cancer or whatever, dont take it so bad, you only had it coming.

Posted by decode on Dec-10-2002 01:09:

Re: The world is phucked up

quote:
Originally posted by P`zazz
Well, I would just like to have a conversation with you guys here on tranceaddict since we all have at least one thing in commmon and that is the music.

It could be said that 'Every individual will do what is good for him' and I think every logically thinking peson would agree. Then WHY THE PHUCK do people do exactly the opposite. Smoking and taking drugs I think are the best examples, they totally fuck you up, over and inside out but the number of people that take this shit increases by the minute. FFS there are times when I go out with my friends and I'm the only one from the lot that doesn't smoke. Also I see on these boards the number of people that post their expiriences with drugs and I get upset, how fucked up is this world, everyone consuming all this crap that only does harm to their body, mind, social life etc. I'll try to name some harms that smoking and taking drugs cause to your body:

Smoking:
1.Makes you smell bad
2.Makes your teeth yellow
3.Get's you so addicted that when you don't have a cigarette to smoke you go nuts trying to find one (omg I've seen my friends act like psychos when they need a cig and cant find one, scares the shit out of me)
4.You spend a shitload of your money for something so harmfull to you while there are ppl out there that go without foood for many days.
5.Your lungs fill up with tar and your body with all that shit they put in those things, plus the chemicals they spray the tobacco plants before they harvest them. Your brain gets fucked up as well as your breathing, you cough all the time and the number of ppl that die each year from cancer because of smoking are enormous.
6.You piss off ppl around you that don't smoke.

Drugs:
1.Cost a shitload of money which could be used in a million of better ways.
2.As I said fucks up your body, mind, social life...
3.Has side effects such as hallucinations, fear, anxiety, feeling of lonelyness, makes you feel sick, fucked up, physical body pain and many more which I don't know of since I am no expert in this area.
4.Could lead to death if an overdose is taken or if there is some kind of alergy.
5.When addicted the luck of the drug leads to the addict actiong like a psycho, basicaly the body is controlled by the drug and not the person.
6.While drugged the user may get involved in 'violent' actions without realising what he is doing.

Now lets see what are the pros:

Smoking - cool factor, immature kids trying to be 'hip' or 'in' (no offence, thats the way it is)

Drugs - users claim to expirience a feeling of 'euphoria' while under the influence of drugs which in my opinion is relatively nothing compared to the fucked up feeling you get later on

I'd like ppl who take drugs/smoke to take part in this but also ppl that don't, and please don't be immature and start flaming with stupid posts the likes of 'stfu drugs/smoking rules' pls back up your opinion.

If drugs were as bad as u say they were no one would do it would they?
People wouldnt hurt themselves just for the sake of it.

Posted by Nadi on Dec-10-2002 01:11:

I don't have a problem with anyone smoking, or drinking or doing drugs around me, provided it doesn't provide an immediate risk to my health or well being(someone smoking right next to me, is annoying, someone crashing into my car while drunk is another.) It's your lives and its fine. My one question is what prompts people to smoke? I understand some stuff but I've never quite found a reason that makes sense to smoke cigs, note this is curiosity, not an accusation.

Posted by decode on Dec-10-2002 01:14:

Its a awfull addiction. U smoke for the first time but its nasty. then u smoke some more then finally u become addicted, Luckily i stopped that wank habbit. Nictotene is a shit drug to get addicted to, u got to give credit to the coke and smack addicts cos least the drug there addicted to gives them a mass amout of pleasure more than a measly ciggarette lol.

Posted by trancearmada on Dec-10-2002 02:55:

haven't any of you ever seen "Requiem for a Dream"?

everyone has their own drug! what's yours?

Posted by tranceDJ on Dec-10-2002 03:12:

quote:
Originally posted by trancearmada
haven't any of you ever seen "Requiem for a Dream"?

everyone has their own drug! what's yours?

*Waits for someone to say "trance is my drug!"

Posted by B-Good on Dec-10-2002 03:24:

I don't think that doing drugs or smoking is bad. It's just that it can be so bad when you start to let your self get fucked up from it. I had friends go crazy and i would say it did have something to do with to much drugs. but doing them in moderation is not what made them crazy it being addicted. Its just the addiction thats fucking this world up. Everyone is addicted to some thing or another. Going to the gym so much that it takes over your life is no different than being a pot head.
I believe that if people know what they are doing and are still doing stuff that is destroying them selves its cause of one reason. Lack of SELF RESPECT. That is the number one reason that the world is looking so fucked up these days.

Posted by biznology on Dec-10-2002 03:59:

Re: The world is phucked up

quote:
Originally posted by P`zazz
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3.Has side effects such as hallucinations, fear, anxiety, feeling of lonelyness, makes you feel sick, fucked up, physical body pain and many more which I don't know of since I am no expert in this area.
...

umm...you arent an expert.

if you are so 'logical' and intelligent - would you take advice from someone who isnt an expert in say: growing vegetables, thermodynamics, etc.?

quote:
Originally posted by P`zazz
...
Smoking and taking drugs I think are the best examples, they totally fuck you up, over and inside out but the number of people that take this shit increases by the minute.
...

i would argue that this number stays relatively stable. sure the population increases, but drug users start, quit, die, etc. i dont think that the world is exponentially becoming more addicted to drugs. they have existed forever, and will continue to exist.

people have their reasons...and as you said you do not know anything about those reasons. and those reasons alone - and your proclamation doesnt make anyone 'bad'.

furthermore:
WHY ARENT YOU RESPONDING TO ANYONES COMMENTS?!?

people have been making fact-based claims, in a logical manner without flaming. so why have you withdrawn from the discussion?

its closed-minded, uneducated people such as yourself that fuel the mania and scare tactics of drug use. cigarettes or drugs can be nasty, but that doesnt make them bad or wrong, it makes them a personal choice|

Posted by Rostros on Dec-10-2002 13:29:

A view of my insights on this topic, there are many different attitudes of this subject from different people , from a general point of view, smoking is a nasty fookin habit , and so is gambling and so drinking and doing drugs , alot of people smoke these days , personally i do not smoke , i have tried it and never liked it, socailly most of my friends smoke around me and everyone i know , personally i cant stand the smell of smoke as for non smokers it can piss you off, as for smokers who wont realise that the smell is Rank,

Everyone is addicted to something , either its smoking , drinking or drugs and gambling , its all TAX to the goverment , science has proved that all of these drugs are bad for you, and can cause cancer which there is no cure and is a major killer.

The world is phucked up, only coz we make it phucked up , i think working 9-5 everyday in a boring office , for 40 years of your life , getting in traffic everyday , and only having 2 days to go out clubbing , yes its my choice , but i need to pay bills and survive.

" FUCK IT WHERES THEM FAGS , AND THAT JACK D "

Posted by P`zazz on Dec-10-2002 14:21:

I started reading the replies but I stopped as ppl started flaming and insulting me so I wont bother, guess I was expecting this

and I didn't make this thread to try and make people stop smoking or taking drugs, I just share my view which says that smoking/drugs are bad, but still so many ppl take them and I would like to know the reasons why they do it, not 'stfu you don't know shit about drugs' -
don't be a fuck and start act like a child.

Posted by Az on Dec-10-2002 14:27:

Posted by Rostros on Dec-10-2002 14:30:

did someone say canabis ?

Posted by biznology on Dec-10-2002 15:25:

quote:
Originally posted by P`zazz
I started reading the replies but I stopped as ppl started flaming and insulting me so I wont bother, guess I was expecting this

and I didn't make this thread to try and make people stop smoking or taking drugs, I just share my view which says that smoking/drugs are bad, but still so many ppl take them and I would like to know the reasons why they do it, not 'stfu you don't know shit about drugs' -
don't be a fuck and start act like a child.

umm i see more intelligent responses than simply flaming. just because you arent willing to concede that there may be viewpoints unlike your own doesnt mean people are flaming you. personally i dont care what you believe cause it doesnt affect me here and now. i suggest you find a better topic to DISCUSS if you are unwilling to discuss it yourself

and if you refer to what i was saying, i never told you to STFU. and i dont understand why you dont agree with people that say you dont know anything about drugs, you said so yourself!

i understand that you were just trying to 'inform us of your viewpoint' but this is a forum, just as you have your POV, someone else has theirs. with a touchy subject like drugs, esp on a TRANCE forum, you have to expect that some people know, use or god forbid even enjoy drugs (along with all the shit that comes along with them). them stating that opinion, or simply responding to your opinion is not flaming|

Posted by Slylee on Dec-10-2002 15:49:

drugs were invented for one reason only...to escape reality...i don't think i need to clarify my point any further

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